50 Hr maintenance

[DarkBlack]

Name calling. Real intelligent.

 

[chuck172]

Jeez, a simple post about filters and look what got started. Lets lighten up.

 

[DK35vince]

I think I got it now, WAL-MART.You still did not answer the REAL question WHAT happens when I need Kioti parts?Enlighten me?

So your saying if I don't support my local dealer by getting all my parts there I can no longer get get Kioti parts???
My cars, tractor and motorcycle were all bought at a dealer. I have never been back to any of those dealer for parts.
I can pick up a phone and get parts just fine.

 

[coobie]

So your saying if I don't support my local dealer by getting all my parts there I can no longer get get Kioti parts???
My cars, tractor and motorcycle were all bought at a dealer. I have never been back to any of those dealer for parts.
I can pick up a phone and get parts just fine.

Not saying that vince.I buy my oil and Hydro fluid local but I buy my Kioti filters and parts from my local Kioti dealer.I guess I am old school,I like building a good relationship with my local dealer.I am not into internet buying.I believe in a hand shake and a mans word is gospel

 

[madmax12]

Not saying that vince.I buy my oil and Hydro fluid local but I buy my Kioti filters and parts from my local Kioti dealer.

Why don't you buy everything related to your tractor from the dealer?

 

[coobie]

Why don't you buy everything related to your tractor from the dealer?

Spread the wealth locally.

 

[Buggs67]

Not saying that vince.I buy my oil and Hydro fluid local but I buy my Kioti filters and parts from my local Kioti dealer.I guess I am old school,I like building a good relationship with my local dealer.I am not into internet buying.I believe in a hand shake and a mans word is gospel

This is my plan. Filters and parts from my local dealer. If the local Kioti dealer is comparable on $$ for hydo fluid and/or oil I'll throw him the business. He's not in danger of closing-up-shop, but if Kioti products don't make him some $$$ he might convert to some thing more profitable. He used to sell Cub Cadet and Yanmar. If he switches brands I lose my Kioti support.

As far as accessories and implements ... we'll see. Down the road I see a thumb, box blade/rear blade, tooth bar/wear bar and/or log-skidder .

 

[kco]

This is my plan. Filters and parts from my local dealer. If the local Kioti dealer is comparable on $$ for hydo fluid and/or oil I'll throw him the business. He's not in danger of closing-up-shop, but if Kioti products don't make him some $$$ he might convert to some thing more profitable. He used to sell Cub Cadet and Yanmar. If he switches brands I lose my Kioti support.

As far as accessories and implements ... we'll see. Down the road I see a thumb, box blade/rear blade, tooth bar/wear bar and/or log-skidder .

I imagine you already know this but...be sure you have a good filter wrench. The factory installs the filters ridiculously tight. I recently helped my neighbour with his CK27 50 hr service. My nylon strap wrench managed the engine filter, was too wide for the orange HST filter (kept slipping off), and buckled the hydraulic filter before the wrench shaft gave way and twisted like a pretzel.

I never liked the strap wrench anyway. I replaced it with a 12" Channellock filter wrench which easily handled both filters. The pliers have a good range (2 1/2 to 4 1/4" I think). They handle all my DK35'S filters from the small HST to the large hydraulic.

 

[davrow]

I imagine you already know this but...be sure you have a good filter wrench.

Actually, I did not know this, thank you for bringing it up. Perhaps more the fool me, but I expected to remove the filters by hand when the time came. I only put them on by hand, so assumed they would come off that way, too.

Thanks for the heads up.

 

[CJONE]

Actually, I did not know this, thank you for bringing it up. Perhaps more the fool me, but I expected to remove the filters by hand when the time came. I only put them on by hand, so assumed they would come off that way, too.

Thanks for the heads up.

Yea, he is not kidding. I believe they put them on dry with a cheater pipe. I was a heavy engine mechanic and that is the only reason mine came off the first try, I have a filter wrench with a 1/2" drive and 3" wide strap steel. Still needed a 4' cheater and had to be on the ground off the creeper. Unreal how tight the main hydraulic filter was. CJ

 

[Buggs67]

WHOA! I have some standard oil filter wrenches. Thanks for the heads-up.

 

[Threepoint]

My dad taught me at a early age not to debate to long with idiots who don,t understand.They will only bring you down to there level beat you with experience.YOU WIN,LOL.

My dad taught me that by the time you resort to personal attacks and name calling, you've usually already lost the argument. DarkBlack made fair points. Why not just agree to disagree?

 

[drjay9051]

You can cross refernce Kioti oil filter at NAPA etc but you save , what $5 ? You need the other filters from Kioti so just get them all at Kioti.

and it is the Moss-Magnuson Act.

 

[HEC]

I agree with supporting your dealer especially when the next one is over 60 more miles away , I would like for him to stay in business . I just paid $300 for 10 gal. of super udt oil for my M5700 and over $100 for the 2 filters , come on someone is really making a buck here . I need to stay in business too , I'm retired trying make ends meet too .

 

[chuck172]

These are the two filters I need for my 50 hour service:
Oil Filter E6201-32443
Hydraulic Filter T2185-38031
Anyone recommend a good online source?

 

[k0ua]

Yea, he is not kidding. I believe they put them on dry with a cheater pipe. I was a heavy engine mechanic and that is the only reason mine came off the first try, I have a filter wrench with a 1/2" drive and 3" wide strap steel. Still needed a 4' cheater and had to be on the ground off the creeper. Unreal how tight the main hydraulic filter was. CJ

I wound up driving a piece of 5/8 about 3 foot long allthread thru mine after trying various filter wrenches. I later bought a chain wrench. No problems with the second hydraulic filter change of course. I didn't have any problems with hydrostat filter. But I am here to tell you the hydraulic filter on DK series tractors is one tight SOB.

 

[Buggs67]

I agree with supporting your dealer especially when the next one is over 60 more miles away , I would like for him to stay in business . I just paid $300 for 10 gal. of super udt oil for my M5700 and over $100 for the 2 filters , come on someone is really making a buck here . I need to stay in business too , I'm retired trying make ends meet too .

Especially when TSC has Rotella Hydraulic fluid for about $65 5 gal pail. And Traveler brand for less $$
.

 

[k0ua]

Especially when TSC has Rotella Hydraulic fluid for about $65 5 gal pail. And Traveler brand for less $$
.

Just make sure the hydraulic fluid is "designed for use with wet brakes". Because not all hydraulic fluids are meant to be used in tractors with wet brakes (like yours). Some hydraulic fluids are meant to be used in other hydraulic systems not tractors and do not have the correct additive packages.

 

[ksbrdmkr]

Remember that if it isn't recorded it didn't happen, for me that is the best reason to buy filters from the dealer. It not that spec filters won't work but you might have to provide written proof. Your dealer should have the purchase history.

 

[chuck172]

Just make sure the hydraulic fluid is "designed for use with wet brakes". Because not all hydraulic fluids are meant to be used in tractors with wet brakes (like yours). Some hydraulic fluids are meant to be used in other hydraulic systems not tractors and do not have the correct additive packages.

What options besides the three recommended fluids in the owners manual ( exxonmobil, shell donax, bp tractran uth) are there?