36' x 36' horse barn
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KennyG said:
Good point. I misspoke, they "claim" to supply the kits, not actually build them. It's a local company that builds nice trusses and operates two hardware stores, they beat Slowes and HD on price and quality of lumber. At any rate they won't be supplying mine.
EddieWalker
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I've never seen the roof done like you're doing it. I really like the way you did your eaves!!!
Are the rafters on top of the trusses, then the purlins attached to the sides of the rafters? Do you use joist brackets? What size lumber did you use?
Thanks,
Eddie
Are the rafters on top of the trusses, then the purlins attached to the sides of the rafters? Do you use joist brackets? What size lumber did you use?
Thanks,
Eddie
Thanks Eddie. The purlins are 2x6 and have joist hangers on the inside trusses and the outside trusses are 5 1/2''
lower so the purlins sit on top of the truss and make the soffit. The barn is a prefab kit and outside of some down time
unloading deliveries, the barn has been a breeze to build.
Picture shows a better view of end truss
lower so the purlins sit on top of the truss and make the soffit. The barn is a prefab kit and outside of some down time
unloading deliveries, the barn has been a breeze to build.
Picture shows a better view of end truss
EddieWalker
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Thanks for the other picture. That shows it a lot better. I didn't know you could span that far with a 2x6. I get nervous with a single 2x8 going 8 ft. Will you put the metal directly onto the 2x6's?
Eddie
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Eddie the 2x6's are 8' & 12' long so the span is greater than you thought. The purlins have insulation
then roof metal. I was concerned about the truss system initially but even before our x-bracing and
roof framing complete this building is sturdy. I am a believer in the pole/double truss system and will
recommend this system.
then roof metal. I was concerned about the truss system initially but even before our x-bracing and
roof framing complete this building is sturdy. I am a believer in the pole/double truss system and will
recommend this system.
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I didn't realize the trusses were doubled until you mentioned it here and I went back and looked more closely at the pics. That's interesting.
I don't get why some 2x6's are 8' and some are 12'. Are your posts 12' o.c.?
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Whoa. That is a funky build style. So only the center two trusses are actually doubled up? No headers between the posts for the trusses to sit on? (I realize they aren't actually needed to support the trusses since they are notched into the posts, but headers still tie everything together very strongly). Seems like if you had just a single post misaligned slightly it would wreck the roof lines.
That is a butt load of joist (purlin) hangers!
I'm sure that building will come out super sturdy. But it seems inherently more expensive vs. more traditional post framing? Edit: I guess you have a lot fewer trusses to pay for.
That is a butt load of joist (purlin) hangers!
I'm sure that building will come out super sturdy. But it seems inherently more expensive vs. more traditional post framing? Edit: I guess you have a lot fewer trusses to pay for.
EddieWalker
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I didn't notice the double trusses either. But when I looked at the picture, I realized that the front porch truss is different in design. That surprised me. With more bracing, it's stronger then the others. I'm curious why. The trusses over the end walls make sense, and the trusses over the span of the building make sense, but I'm lost why they designed the front one like they did.
The double truss is something else I've never seen. My expereince is to put one truss on the post and one in between the posts on a double 2x12 header notched into the top of the post. I recently read in Fine Home Building that bolts are no longer acceptable for live loads on decks and that notching a post is the only way to do it. I've been notching my deck posts for years and really like how you have the load of the truss on top of the posts. Nothing is stronger then that!!!!
Thanks,
Eddie
The double truss is something else I've never seen. My expereince is to put one truss on the post and one in between the posts on a double 2x12 header notched into the top of the post. I recently read in Fine Home Building that bolts are no longer acceptable for live loads on decks and that notching a post is the only way to do it. I've been notching my deck posts for years and really like how you have the load of the truss on top of the posts. Nothing is stronger then that!!!!
Thanks,
Eddie
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If you don't want that rain, send it this way. Nice looking build you have there. Great pics. Keep them coming.
EddieWalker
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Thanks for the new pictures. That helps a lot in seeing how it was engineered.
With the lean to and porch, how big is the overall footprint?
Eddie
With the lean to and porch, how big is the overall footprint?
Eddie
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Hey, looking great guys!
I built my own 30x36 pole barn starting late September 2011, using me, myself, and I (and a close friend or two on occassion). 6x9 trusses, 12' span between trusses, double trussed (sandwitched) in the middle two "bays," 13' tall walls. 4/12 pitch. I invision a loft area in a bay down the road, and I bought beams (and dug holes) for a future lean-to. My friend helped me build a 20" eave overhang (I should have just spent the extra few dollars on the truss built for overhang) and 12" overhang on the ends. It really helps set it apart-and looks sharp! (Hint)
The truth is-It took litterally years to muster up the courage to launch myself into this, and my out-of-state contractor friend said..."Just start it... I'm coming in town in a couple months..and if you mess up...I will first laugh at you..but then help you fix it!" so I launched myself into this dream in the making. It took several phone calls and Email photo's of encouragement..but I did it! And LOVE it! I still have work to do. I never got my concrete floor, still run extension cordes, and I only have two sides partly covered..but I'm out of the weather! (And I don't have a second mortgage! And when Adam came into town, he said "your hired!" The poles were spaced lined us pright, spaced correctly and vertical! I'm sure I took 10x too long braking my vertical 6x9's in the ground-but you non-contractor guys CAN do it! (In fact-I hung the heavy double trussed trusses via come-along and two ladders!) True story-see below.
Mine is built 13' high walls (I aimed for 14', but burried some poles 5' deep, rather than 4' in places/and or uneven ground). (Hint: spend the extra 2 hours on land prep).
My strange stories in my building is the crane truck delivering the trusses. Or should I say... Not delivering via crane truck! The morning the truck came to deliver the trusses was frustrating. The truck that came out was to HUGE, and hauled an additional trailer, which could not enter my driveway (with a 70' circle)..This trailer was a long haul trailer that came out of canada and was used to deliver to the lumber yard..not home owner driveways. He had to deliver the trusses back to the (local) lumber yard that I purchased the building package, and they unloaded it onto my land. But I counted on a crane. rrrgh. The local lumber company was excellent, but they had little control over the crane truck. They were willing to negotiate the crane truck, but it took flexibility and time to arrange. (additionally, rain was heavy, and frost was around the corner. So after a week, I mustered up the courage to stand them up beside the vertical 6x9 beams, and sandwitch them (which saved me a few hundred $). I hessitated on doing this myself, but I did great and gladly put that money into the 2x6's for overhangs, and plywood on over the roof, prior to tin roofing.) I was going out on vacation (arranged months earlier) and I just decided to see if I could raise a middle truss with a comealong. Sure enough it slid up 2 feet without effort. I moved another latter to the other side, and attached a rope to the top of the far side beam via come-along and hand winced it up 2'. and so I went up 5 feet. WOW! I called my dad, and asked if he could come out and watch over me for safety. And next morning I had it up in an hour. Really, it wasn't bad! Slow going and Safety was first, I never got the trusses over 2' drop without a brace 2x6 screwed benieth trusses. (So if catastrophy happened-it would drop 24" at most. The end ones were more scary, but I got them done much the same, and I had plenty of heavy rope tying beams to heavy trusses. i will try to find a photo or two of our adventure and post.
So my advice: If you have the dream, and means-by all means-Just Do It!
Hints: Spend the extra $500 and put real plywood on the roof-It REALLY heped make the building solid! It swayed prior to install, but was very ridgid prior to even placing the perlins on the sides. and make an overhang. It looks more residencial (cleaner) and keeps more rain off the sides. I may have even added another foot for firewood storage, shade, or bbq area. Though I cannot finnish it totally, I'm learning to enjoy the process.
I built my own 30x36 pole barn starting late September 2011, using me, myself, and I (and a close friend or two on occassion). 6x9 trusses, 12' span between trusses, double trussed (sandwitched) in the middle two "bays," 13' tall walls. 4/12 pitch. I invision a loft area in a bay down the road, and I bought beams (and dug holes) for a future lean-to. My friend helped me build a 20" eave overhang (I should have just spent the extra few dollars on the truss built for overhang) and 12" overhang on the ends. It really helps set it apart-and looks sharp! (Hint)
The truth is-It took litterally years to muster up the courage to launch myself into this, and my out-of-state contractor friend said..."Just start it... I'm coming in town in a couple months..and if you mess up...I will first laugh at you..but then help you fix it!" so I launched myself into this dream in the making. It took several phone calls and Email photo's of encouragement..but I did it! And LOVE it! I still have work to do. I never got my concrete floor, still run extension cordes, and I only have two sides partly covered..but I'm out of the weather! (And I don't have a second mortgage! And when Adam came into town, he said "your hired!" The poles were spaced lined us pright, spaced correctly and vertical! I'm sure I took 10x too long braking my vertical 6x9's in the ground-but you non-contractor guys CAN do it! (In fact-I hung the heavy double trussed trusses via come-along and two ladders!) True story-see below.
Mine is built 13' high walls (I aimed for 14', but burried some poles 5' deep, rather than 4' in places/and or uneven ground). (Hint: spend the extra 2 hours on land prep).
My strange stories in my building is the crane truck delivering the trusses. Or should I say... Not delivering via crane truck! The morning the truck came to deliver the trusses was frustrating. The truck that came out was to HUGE, and hauled an additional trailer, which could not enter my driveway (with a 70' circle)..This trailer was a long haul trailer that came out of canada and was used to deliver to the lumber yard..not home owner driveways. He had to deliver the trusses back to the (local) lumber yard that I purchased the building package, and they unloaded it onto my land. But I counted on a crane. rrrgh. The local lumber company was excellent, but they had little control over the crane truck. They were willing to negotiate the crane truck, but it took flexibility and time to arrange. (additionally, rain was heavy, and frost was around the corner. So after a week, I mustered up the courage to stand them up beside the vertical 6x9 beams, and sandwitch them (which saved me a few hundred $). I hessitated on doing this myself, but I did great and gladly put that money into the 2x6's for overhangs, and plywood on over the roof, prior to tin roofing.) I was going out on vacation (arranged months earlier) and I just decided to see if I could raise a middle truss with a comealong. Sure enough it slid up 2 feet without effort. I moved another latter to the other side, and attached a rope to the top of the far side beam via come-along and hand winced it up 2'. and so I went up 5 feet. WOW! I called my dad, and asked if he could come out and watch over me for safety. And next morning I had it up in an hour. Really, it wasn't bad! Slow going and Safety was first, I never got the trusses over 2' drop without a brace 2x6 screwed benieth trusses. (So if catastrophy happened-it would drop 24" at most. The end ones were more scary, but I got them done much the same, and I had plenty of heavy rope tying beams to heavy trusses. i will try to find a photo or two of our adventure and post.
So my advice: If you have the dream, and means-by all means-Just Do It!
Hints: Spend the extra $500 and put real plywood on the roof-It REALLY heped make the building solid! It swayed prior to install, but was very ridgid prior to even placing the perlins on the sides. and make an overhang. It looks more residencial (cleaner) and keeps more rain off the sides. I may have even added another foot for firewood storage, shade, or bbq area. Though I cannot finnish it totally, I'm learning to enjoy the process.
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