3120 gets no respect

[6or7dazeaweek]

John: I really wanted to believe what the dealer said...it should run a flail mower. I have to take stock in what Deere publishes in their brochures and the flail mower wasn't a listed option until you get to the 3520.

Not wanting to shoot myself in the foot, I decided to follow Deere's marketing hype & ordered the 3520. This being my 1st and probably last tractor, I needed to get it right the first time.

Jon

 

[6or7dazeaweek]

John: I really wanted to believe what the dealer said...it should run a flail mower. I have to take stock in what Deere publishes in their brochures and the flail mower wasn't a listed option until you get to the 3520.

Not wanting to shoot myself in the foot, I decided to follow Deere's marketing hype & ordered the 3520. This being my 1st and probably last tractor, I needed to get it right the first time.

Jon

 

[rockyridgefarm]

I had a dealer friend tell me thay just HATED the 4210. If the customer bought one fully assured it was just what they wanted, more often than not they would come back sorry they didn't spring for the 4310. (Of course, there are MANY satisfied 4210 owners...) He said it was the one machine in the lineup that kept biting them.

So now we have the 3000TWENTYs and the 3120 is positioned as the 4210 replacement. Many dealers are fearing DejaVU all over again. Sure the customer is sure it is all they need, but will they feel the same a year from now?

Dealer are wise to sell down. Start at a machine (3720) that may be more power than the present need. If the customer steps down to a lesser machine, they are more apt to feel they are the one that made the compromise and live with it. When a dealer says the smallest one is all you will ever need, they might as well shoot their own foot. Same for us. We should probably suggest that the bigger machine will be more likely to satisfy. If the buyer steps down, they will be more likely to accept the compromise.

The 3120 is a great machine, and better equipped than the 4210 was.

Backhoes get breakout force from the maximum psi pressure. They get their rate of movement from the pump's gpm capacity.

 

[rockyridgefarm]

I had a dealer friend tell me thay just HATED the 4210. If the customer bought one fully assured it was just what they wanted, more often than not they would come back sorry they didn't spring for the 4310. (Of course, there are MANY satisfied 4210 owners...) He said it was the one machine in the lineup that kept biting them.

So now we have the 3000TWENTYs and the 3120 is positioned as the 4210 replacement. Many dealers are fearing DejaVU all over again. Sure the customer is sure it is all they need, but will they feel the same a year from now?

Dealer are wise to sell down. Start at a machine (3720) that may be more power than the present need. If the customer steps down to a lesser machine, they are more apt to feel they are the one that made the compromise and live with it. When a dealer says the smallest one is all you will ever need, they might as well shoot their own foot. Same for us. We should probably suggest that the bigger machine will be more likely to satisfy. If the buyer steps down, they will be more likely to accept the compromise.

The 3120 is a great machine, and better equipped than the 4210 was.

Backhoes get breakout force from the maximum psi pressure. They get their rate of movement from the pump's gpm capacity.

 

[matthew3120]

i think that the John Deere 3120 is just as go as a 3320 or higher its the same tractor just a smaller engine and the engine can move the tractor just as fast as the bigger hp tractors. go John deere 3120
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matthew3120

 

[matthew3120]

i think that the John Deere 3120 is just as go as a 3320 or higher its the same tractor just a smaller engine and the engine can move the tractor just as fast as the bigger hp tractors. go John deere 3120
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matthew3120

 

[Garrabo]

I noticed that the 3120,3520 and 3720 all have a bore and stroke of 84X90mm (3.3x3.54in) while the 3320 has a bore and stroke of
88X90mm (3.46x3.54in) where does the HP gain come from on the 3520 and 3720 over the 3120?

 

[Garrabo]

I noticed that the 3120,3520 and 3720 all have a bore and stroke of 84X90mm (3.3x3.54in) while the 3320 has a bore and stroke of
88X90mm (3.46x3.54in) where does the HP gain come from on the 3520 and 3720 over the 3120?

 

[johndeere_2210]

garrabo,

Turbocharged for added power and performance on the 3520 and 3720.

 

[johndeere_2210]

garrabo,

Turbocharged for added power and performance on the 3520 and 3720.

 

[rockyridgefarm]

they have the same base engine. The 3520 gets a turbo, while the 3720 has stepped up fuel delivery, turbo, and an intercooler.

Note that all the current engines are slightly de-tuned from the previous series. The 3120 has the replacement engine from the 4310, yet it is slightly less powerful. the 3320 engine is more in line with the 4310, but it is the 4410 engine replacement.

Don't worry, Garrabo, if the 3120 work for you - great! it is a fine machine!

 

[rockyridgefarm]

they have the same base engine. The 3520 gets a turbo, while the 3720 has stepped up fuel delivery, turbo, and an intercooler.

Note that all the current engines are slightly de-tuned from the previous series. The 3120 has the replacement engine from the 4310, yet it is slightly less powerful. the 3320 engine is more in line with the 4310, but it is the 4410 engine replacement.

Don't worry, Garrabo, if the 3120 work for you - great! it is a fine machine!

 

[Dutch445]

I got a chance yesterday to see a 3120 in
action at a customers property. It was sold
with the 300CX, 448, and 72" mid mower.
We had the tractor delivered on Saturday,
I was off... and yesterday morning I had the call
and some concerns about power while mowing.

So, I drove out and we talked, I went thru service
and operation, then I tried mowing with the tractor.
And yes, this hill that we mowed was quite steep, and
with the mower, in B range, the loadmatch was doing it's
best to keep RPM's up, but they still dropped a couple hundred
below 540 range. I then tried the same hill in A range, and it
was better, but the customer was still a little concerned.
Then, we took the backhoe and loader off (about 2,400 lbs)
and tried it again,, B range, much better. Customer was now
relieved knowing that the tractor was going to be fine. They did do some digging with the 448 over the weekend, and said the were quite impressed with it's performance.

and, they were thrilled with the ease of removing the loader
and backhoe, and the re install. It truly is amazing how easy
it is to do.

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[Dutch445]

I got a chance yesterday to see a 3120 in
action at a customers property. It was sold
with the 300CX, 448, and 72" mid mower.
We had the tractor delivered on Saturday,
I was off... and yesterday morning I had the call
and some concerns about power while mowing.

So, I drove out and we talked, I went thru service
and operation, then I tried mowing with the tractor.
And yes, this hill that we mowed was quite steep, and
with the mower, in B range, the loadmatch was doing it's
best to keep RPM's up, but they still dropped a couple hundred
below 540 range. I then tried the same hill in A range, and it
was better, but the customer was still a little concerned.
Then, we took the backhoe and loader off (about 2,400 lbs)
and tried it again,, B range, much better. Customer was now
relieved knowing that the tractor was going to be fine. They did do some digging with the 448 over the weekend, and said the were quite impressed with it's performance.

and, they were thrilled with the ease of removing the loader
and backhoe, and the re install. It truly is amazing how easy
it is to do.

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[RollTideRam]

Respect, I have a 2520 and have to look up at the 3120. I wanted one, but decided it was to heavy for mainly mowing grass. JC

 

[RollTideRam]

Respect, I have a 2520 and have to look up at the 3120. I wanted one, but decided it was to heavy for mainly mowing grass. JC

 

[beenthere]

Seems once a person settles on the group of midsize tractor frames (3120 - 3720) that it is only natural to compare the tractors within that group. The 3120 is on one end of the spectrum of that 4 tractor group.
If comparing to other size frames, like the smaller frames, then the 3120 is maybe the other end of a different group.
Don't see where 'respect' has any bearing on it, but suppose one could feel 'left out'.
Don't feel bad, just feel bad for those who don't even have a 3120 or even have a Deere, for that matter. I do. /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif

 

[beenthere]

Seems once a person settles on the group of midsize tractor frames (3120 - 3720) that it is only natural to compare the tractors within that group. The 3120 is on one end of the spectrum of that 4 tractor group.
If comparing to other size frames, like the smaller frames, then the 3120 is maybe the other end of a different group.
Don't see where 'respect' has any bearing on it, but suppose one could feel 'left out'.
Don't feel bad, just feel bad for those who don't even have a 3120 or even have a Deere, for that matter. I do. /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif

 

[Garrabo]

I didnt realize the 35 and 3720 got a turbo, I thought that was only on the 4000 series. Guess that explains it /forums/images/graemlins/ooo.gif

 

[Garrabo]

I didnt realize the 35 and 3720 got a turbo, I thought that was only on the 4000 series. Guess that explains it /forums/images/graemlins/ooo.gif