2023 or 2030?

   / 2023 or 2030? #11  
If your in Ct. stop by SETARO MOTORS in Waterbury- GREAT guys.

I was there last week. His best price for the J2023H was $13,425. That's quite a bit more than you paid for yours a few months ago, isn't it?
 
   / 2023 or 2030?
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#12  
Wow thanks for the replies guys, yeah I think I'm going to go for the 2023...I agree that the 3033 is quite a bit more tractor but more than I need...and the biggest turn off for my with the 3033 is that I can't get a front mount snowblower, which I put very high on my list of priorities...happy wife = happy life right?

He's got it listed for $13,700...hoping I can get it closer to $13,000 or even high $12s would be nice.
 
   / 2023 or 2030? #13  
I paid $12,200 for my 2023. I had another dealer at $12,500. You can do better than $13k. Good luck!
 
   / 2023 or 2030? #14  
I was in the same situation between the g3038 and the g3033. I ended up buying the g3033, and I personally don't think 5hp is going to make that much difference. I did not want to pay the extra $1000 for 5hp.

That $1K would have also given you 20% more lift capacity on the FEL as well....1900lbs versus 1600lbs. That's enough to make a clear difference if you're really using your FEL a lot.
 
   / 2023 or 2030? #15  
It was a no-brainer for me. My biggest advice would be to factor in the cost of having the tires filled with fluid. I don't get enough traction with mine.

Filling the tires won't make any difference for the problems you're talking about. R4s slip on wet/muddy surfaces, regardless of how heavy you make the machine. With counterweight, my LS weighs 6,600lbs without me on it, and it will spin the R4s in anything muddy/wet, even in 4wd with the differential lock engaged. My Massey only weighs 4,200lbs, and has similar size tires, but R1s, and it will walk right through the same areas without any problem, and that's in 2wd without the differential lock engaged.

It's not the tractor, it's not the weight, it's not fluid in the tires, it's the kind of tires that you're struggling with.
 
   / 2023 or 2030? #16  
"It's not the tractor, it's not the weight, it's not fluid in the tires, it's the kind of tires that you're struggling with. "

I've been watching youtube videos of tractors getting stuck in mud, etc. You'd be surprised at how many of those tractors have the R4 industrial tires on them. I've changed my mind on purchasing a J series tractor for a G series because the G series offers Ag (R1) tires and the J series doesn't.

Yeah, bit of an overkill on tractor size, but I doubt I'll have to call another farmer to come help me extract my tractor out of the field.

4 X 4 with Ags? Yeah, that's the ticket.
 
   / 2023 or 2030? #17  
That $1K would have also given you 20% more lift capacity on the FEL as well....1900lbs versus 1600lbs. That's enough to make a clear difference if you're really using your FEL a lot.

I have the rear tires filled and a box blade and I have seen the times the rear end is still lite, with a full bucket of dirt. Them being the same tractor, the extra 5hp and 300# in lift was not worth it to me in my opinion.
 
   / 2023 or 2030? #18  
I have the rear tires filled and a box blade and I have seen the times the rear end is still lite, with a full bucket of dirt. Them being the same tractor, the extra 5hp and 300# in lift was not worth it to me in my opinion.

No offense, but filled tires and a box blade aren't nearly the correct combo to safely use the loader. Filled tires are useful for traction, but many people incorrectly think they're intended to help keep the rear tires planted. They take no weight off the front axle, and do far less than 3pt weight to keep the rear tires planted. Something like an 800lb counterweight would almost certainly let you max the loader safely, and help minimize front axle wear.

The fact that you can lift the rear tires with just a full bucket of dirt means you not have enough counterweight, and aren't being as safe as you could be.
 
   / 2023 or 2030? #19  
No offense, but filled tires and a box blade aren't nearly the correct combo to safely use the loader. Filled tires are useful for traction, but many people incorrectly think they're intended to help keep the rear tires planted. They take no weight off the front axle, and do far less than 3pt weight to keep the rear tires planted. Something like an 800lb counterweight would almost certainly let you max the loader safely, and help minimize front axle wear.

The fact that you can lift the rear tires with just a full bucket of dirt means you not have enough counterweight, and aren't being as safe as you could be.

No offense taken, I agree to a point, if all I was using was the fel then a heavier counter weight would be the best option, however a lot of people use other implements with the fel so the counter weight might not be an option. For me the fluid in the tires made enough of a difference . I was just trying to point out that for me the 300# extra lift capacity was not a deal breaker on the same tractor.
 
   / 2023 or 2030? #20  
It's not just the lift capacity difference. You also have a much bigger hyrdo pump as well as the dual pedal system with the 2023.

My dealer had a new 2030 in stock and I spent time driving it. I hated the rocker pedal. I'm sure I could have gotten the 2030 for a better price, but I decided to order the 2023 instead.
 

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