2012 5105M

[Zebrafive]

I'm still using the same straps from when I had a CUT. Probably time to get some chains and binders.

I would NEVER trust straps for that heavy a load. As big as your trailer is I am surprised you do not have several chains and binders. The ratcheting ones with removeable handles are on my wish list

 

[Mistyridgefarm]

You guys are killing me with all these pictures of mesmerizing green tractors....

 

[pclausen]

Probably would have had to duct tape over the manufacturer's VIN plate!! :laughing: I'd bet you were at least a 1,000lbs over the trailer limit...

The tractor by itself is 8400 lbs I believe with the rear wheel weights. The bucket I know is ~600 lbs, so that 9000 lbs. Not sure how much the H260 FEL is, but you're right that it is probably more than 200 lbs :laughing:, which is technically all I have left after subtracting the 4,800 lbs weight of the trailer itself from it's 14k gross rating.

I guess I should have gone with a 10ton trailer after all, but then I don't know that my 10 year old 3500 truck would have been up to the task of hauling it.

 

[pclausen]

The ratcheting ones with removeable handles are on my wish list

You mean like these:

Ratchet Binder with Removable Handle | Truck n Tow.com

I like that blue square chain too!

 

[Zebrafive]

You mean like these:

Ratchet Binder with Removable Handle | Truck n Tow.com

I like that blue square chain too!

Yes, I currently have over center chain binders. Some times too loose and one more link on the chain and it takes a cheater to lock.

That blue chain grade 120 is OVERKILL! I use grade 70.

 

[Zebrafive]

The tractor by itself is 8400 lbs I believe with the rear wheel weights. The bucket I know is ~600 lbs, so that 9000 lbs. Not sure how much the H260 FEL is, but you're right that it is probably more than 200 lbs :laughing:, which is technically all I have left after subtracting the 4,800 lbs weight of the trailer itself from it's 14k gross rating.

I guess I should have gone with a 10ton trailer after all, but then I don't know that my 10 year old 3500 truck would have been up to the task of hauling it.

They say since the truck carrys 10-15% tongue weight or 15-25% with a 5th wheel/goose neck. You can actually carry more than the load minus the trailer weight. But still pushing the limit.

If I had something that would pull it I would upgrade from my 14K trailer to either a tri axle or tandum duals in the 20 to 22K range.

 

[pclausen]

Yeah, after seeing the price of the grade 120 stuff, even the 9/32" stuff, I'll likely get some grade 70 5/16".

Good deal on the 15-25% tongue weight on a GN. Didn't realize that. At 25%, that would mean I could have 3500 lbs over the truck rear axle for a total weight of 17,500. Subtracting the 4800 trailer weight would mean I could carry a 12,700 lbs payload.

 

[MWRR]

Thanks for the Pics on where to hook the chains for hauling. They helped a lot!!

 

[AKfish]

Yeah, after seeing the price of the grade 120 stuff, even the 9/32" stuff, I'll likely get some grade 70 5/16".

Good deal on the 15-25% tongue weight on a GN. Didn't realize that. At 25%, that would mean I could have 3500 lbs over the truck rear axle for a total weight of 17,500. Subtracting the 4800 trailer weight would mean I could carry a 12,700 lbs payload.

What's the GCWR for your DuraMax? 24K... My '03 2500 is 22K. I cannot legally MAX out my 15.7K gooseneck - because I'm over the limit on my truck's GCWR.

(I've towed over the limit - for short trips - and hope no one stops short off my front bumper...!! )

My 563SL loader (minus bucket) is 1,988lbs. I'd have to believe that your H260 is at least/if not more as heavy.

IIRC - the 5085M is 8,500lbs with standard tires. Then you have to add in the wheel weights and the bigger tires..

AKfish

 

[pclausen]

From pickuptrucks.com's buyers guide for the 2002 3500, I see this:

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Both the Vortec 8100 and Duramax 6600 Diesel V8 permit towing trailers up to 12,000 pounds; they provide a maximum 22,000-pound gross combined weight rating (GCWR).

With a fifth wheel or gooseneck hitch, trailering capability increases to an astounding 15,800-pound maximum.
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That would seem to indicate that the GCWR would be 25,800 pounds with a GN, just shy of CDL territory.

So my tractor loaded would be about:

8500 tractor
400 wheel weights
200 larger wheels tires
2000 FEL
1000 grapple
12100 total

My Bush Hog 3209 would add another 2600 lbs or so, for a total of 14,700. And the weight of the trailer itself is 4,800, for a grand total of 19,500 plus the truck which is 8,100, making the whole thing come in at 27,600.

Hmm, that takes me over by quite a bit. I was planning on hauling the above combo about 3 miles down the back road about once a month to maintain about 30 acres.

Perhaps I should just drive the tractor there directly? It would be quicker than loading/unloading the tractor, but I'm worried about tire wear being that its all black top.