2 Acres half Woods and Lawn Is this B2320 for me?

   / 2 Acres half Woods and Lawn Is this B2320 for me? #51  
Are both machines 3 range HST's.? I think the Bota is and the Deere not. Might be important to you.
 
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   / 2 Acres half Woods and Lawn Is this B2320 for me? #52  
Just to recap to see if I followed your thread correctly.
Your neighbor has a like news B2320 with FEL, turfs, several implements and a new mmm for $13k, and your primary concern was mowing. You have used it on your property and felt comfortable running it. And you are pricing Deere and Kubota scut's with mmm and FEL for around $18k whichever color.

Hmm, I would be talking to your neighbor about buying his setup and saving $5k rather than trying to negotiate a few hundred dollars off a Deere or Kubota scut. With turfs on the 2320 it will be negligible difference on lawn compared to scut's you mentioned and as with any of them you would be mowing in 2wd to help prevent damage to lawn. Have other concerns cropped up on your neighbors machine/deal?

Btw, I have owned a Massey scutGC2310 and a Kubota B2920 which was just a little larger model than your neighbors B2320. When I took the BH and FEL off the 2920 it didn't look that much bigger than a scut.
My property is not too much larger than yours with a spit between woods and lawn. However, I do have a ztr for mowing. Good luck on your search.
 
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   / 2 Acres half Woods and Lawn Is this B2320 for me?
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#53  
Tompet,

My main concern with the 230 is whether it would be overkill on my >1 acre lawn. The advantage would be in the acre of woods and the substantial increase in FEL capability. The deal is solid. The owner is a very good friend of mine. The 2320 has been stored outside and has faded a little. Other than a dent i=on the top rim of the bucket, it is fine.
 
   / 2 Acres half Woods and Lawn Is this B2320 for me? #54  
For the record, this is what I sent to the dealer:

Thank you for the prompt reply. I am in the early
stages of my research at this point and have looked at
several models. I have narrowed my decision down to
the 1025r or the Kubota 2370-1 - both with the 60" MMM and
FEL. I have your quote and one from a Kubota dealer
and plan to visit a competitor for both brands so I will
have 2 quotes each.


I have driven a Kubota and I liked it. I have
not had a chance to drive a JD but I intend
to and I think I will get used to either platform
with a little practice.

I find value in good engineering so I expect the
JD to cost a little more but the the proof is in the
pudding and without testing your machine, I am
in no position determine its value to
ME.

That said, does your company work with the
customer or should I consider the quote written in
stone? I would like to visit this weekend and take a
ride.

Thank you very much for your time and I look forward to
meeting you.

V/R

Greetings Avery,

Now that you've provided the above wording of your early email so we can see the response you received in context . . I am even more confirmed than prior that the person who responded to you is very well schooled in customer service. You expressed a combination of illogical thoughts yet he stayed patient, informative, and polite.

Avery, You can't be in the early stages of consideration . . yet ask if the dealer is willing to work with the bid numbers further. You can't say you will likely adapt well to the product . . At the same time admiting you've never even test driven one.

Neither of these statements is a logical progression imo. You tested and like the Kubota . . But hold the j.d. product in equal regard before seeing it ?????

But my point isn't as much about you as that the dealer you contacted handled the situation so very very well while you considered him a bit abrupt. He was clear communicating . . he summarized he gave you a very good price to start with and that he sets the prices to serve the customer well right from the 1st attempt. All this before you've even been there and before you've had the least experience with the j.d. models. He is showing remarkable professionalism in my opinion. He isn't shutting any doors . . but he certainly is looking for you to come and see the product and evaluate its purposes for you before price is involved further.

All in my opinion.
 
   / 2 Acres half Woods and Lawn Is this B2320 for me?
  • Thread Starter
#55  
Greetings Avery,

Now that you've provided the above wording of your early email so we can see the response you received in context . . I am even more confirmed than prior that the person who responded to you is very well schooled in customer service. You expressed a combination of illogical thoughts yet he stayed patient, informative, and polite.

Avery, You can't be in the early stages of consideration . . yet ask if the dealer is willing to work with the bid numbers further. You can't say you will likely adapt well to the product . . At the same time admiting you've never even test driven one.

Neither of these statements is a logical progression imo. You tested and like the Kubota . . But hold the j.d. product in equal regard before seeing it ?????

But my point isn't as much about you as that the dealer you contacted handled the situation so very very well while you considered him a bit abrupt. He was clear communicating . . he summarized he gave you a very good price to start with and that he sets the prices to serve the customer well right from the 1st attempt. All this before you've even been there and before you've had the least experience with the j.d. models. He is showing remarkable professionalism in my opinion. He isn't shutting any doors . . but he certainly is looking for you to come and see the product and evaluate its purposes for you before price is involved further.

All in my opinion.

Thank you for the constructive criticism, Sir.
 
   / 2 Acres half Woods and Lawn Is this B2320 for me? #56  
Methinks you should just buy the friend's Kubota, and then spend the extra money on useful things. For lawn use, turfs are king. They work well in snow, and as long as you avoid snags, I have never had any trouble negotiating woods. If I were hauling logs out on a regular basis, it would be different, but for the occasional excursion into the trees, no problem. Chains work well on turfs, and give you a lot of traction in difficult situations, like snow over ice.

The small new Deeres I checked out before I bought our used L3400 (we had the money to buy a new under $20,000 tractor set-up, but chose not to) just didn't work for me. Some had aluminum rear ends, which makes no sense, to me at least. I like to think I got more tractor for less money. So far, so good. In 15 years of using three different used Kubotas, I have never had the first problem, period. Some loader work, some wood hauling, grave lane maintenance, some post hole augering, and lots of snow clearing, with a rear blade at first, now with a front mounted plow. My avatar, if that's the correct term, shows what chains and 33 hp can do in 2' of snow. With the weight box and loader removed, I can drive over grass without much damage in 2 wheel drive, as well, so I think with a modest rear mower, I could mow?

All personal opinions, of course.

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   / 2 Acres half Woods and Lawn Is this B2320 for me?
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#57  
Methinks you should just buy the friend's Kubota, and then spend the extra money on useful things. For lawn use, turfs are king. They work well in snow, and as long as you avoid snags, I have never had any trouble negotiating woods. If I were hauling logs out on a regular basis, it would be different, but for the occasional excursion into the trees, no problem. Chains work well on turfs, and give you a lot of traction in difficult situations, like snow over ice.

The small new Deeres I checked out before I bought our used L3400 (we had the money to buy a new under $20,000 tractor set-up, but chose not to) just didn't work for me. Some had aluminum rear ends, which makes no sense, to me at least. I like to think I got more tractor for less money. So far, so good. In 15 years of using three different used Kubotas, I have never had the first problem, period. Some loader work, some wood hauling, grave lane maintenance, some post hole augering, and lots of snow clearing, with a rear blade at first, now with a front mounted plow. My avatar, if that's the correct term, shows what chains and 33 hp can do in 2' of snow. With the weight box and loader removed, I can drive over grass without much damage in 2 wheel drive, as well, so I think with a modest rear mower, I could mow?

All personal opinions, of course.

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Varmint,

You make sense. 18K for a JD or 15.5K for a BX - Both without the attachments or comparable ability in the woods. OR 13K for a much more capable machine with everything I need for now. I am 90 percent there.

My only remaining concern is the suitability of the B2320 as a primary mower for my >1 acre lawn. Mowing will ultimately be my primary use so I want to get this right.

Thanks all for staying with me. I'm sure I am frustrating some. The decision is not always cut and dried but I'm getting there.
 
   / 2 Acres half Woods and Lawn Is this B2320 for me? #58  
Varmint,

You make sense. 18K for a JD or 15.5K for a BX - Both without the attachments or comparable ability in the woods. OR 13K for a much more capable machine with everything I need for now. I am 90 percent there.

My only remaining concern is the suitability of the B2320 as a primary mower for my >1 acre lawn. Mowing will ultimately be my primary use so I want to get this right.

Thanks all for staying with me. I'm sure I am frustrating some. The decision is not always cut and dried but I'm getting there.

You're doing just fine, we've all been there before. Don't worry about anybody else.

Is your lawn nice and manicured, with trees/landscaping to steer around? If so, the 2320 will be too big/heavy. If the lawn is rougher and more open, it would work. Really, the two issues with the 2320 for mowing are going to be weight and turning radius.

Would your friend allow a test drive so you can try mowing at your place to see how it works out? Even if you just steer it around the place without a mower, that will still give you an idea about maneuverability and weight on your home turf (no pun intended).
 
   / 2 Acres half Woods and Lawn Is this B2320 for me? #59  
The B2320 belongs to a neighbor and friend, mount the MMM and mow your yard then decide, seems simple to me or am I missing something. Even if he wants a rental fee, you'll still be ahead of the game either way.
 
   / 2 Acres half Woods and Lawn Is this B2320 for me? #60  
buy the neighbors kubota, save some money, get a slightly larger tractor, and have more implements. i doubt the B2320 will do any more damage to your lawn than a BX. both have 60" deck so i'm not following what you mean by overkill. it's only slightly larger than a BX. according to tractor data a B2320 weighs 1433-1477 lbs (tractor only) and has a 93.9" length and 45.1" width

TractorData.com Kubota B232 tractor information (tractordata figures aren't always accurate)

while a BX 2370-1 weighs 1410 lbs with a length of 95.5, and a width of 44.5"

TractorData.com Kubota BX237-1 tractor information

personally i much prefer a RFM for cutting grass, but that's here on my land not you on yours. Get the turf tires. i have also had a BX an 1850, too me it was really small. i now have a JD 750 which is slightly longer and heavier than a B series and i find it about perfect size wise
 

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