16k trailer with 14500 payload.

[Fixastuff]

I'm shopping 16k trailers and I found a company making one with an advertised 14500 payload. It has dual 7k axles and weighs 3100lbs. How is this possible? Seems like it would have to have 8k axles and only weigh 1500lbs to make this happen. What am I missing?

 

[MTGreen]

Sounds like a nomenclature error to me. Likely the gvwr is 14.5k with axles rated 7250 each. Payload is gvwr as determined by the lowest rated component minus trailer tare weight.

 

[Fixastuff]

 

[MTGreen]

By the advertising verbiage makes me wonder if 8k axles but derated for something like tires to 14.5k gvwr versus the 16k. I would think that if you're seriously considering it would warrant a phone call before purchase

 

[Peter 315]

Are they adding tongue weight to get the 16k number?

 

[ovrszd]

Are they adding tongue weight to get the 16k number?

Payload would be defined by what we load on the trailer. No adjustment for tongue weight. Sounds better that way....

 

[Hay Dude]

I'm shopping 16k trailers and I found a company making one with an advertised 14500 payload. It has dual 7k axles and weighs 3100lbs. How is this possible? Seems like it would have to have 8k axles and only weigh 1500lbs to make this happen. What am I missing?

My guess is They are shifting load over to the truck, but they would have to also raise the GVWR.
It’s probably a combination of a misprint and/or a mistake.

I see that out of trailer sellers quite often.

I like the 17.5’s and the oil baths. Although usually 7k’s are not oil bath, but 8ks are. Nice trailer!

 

[Peter 315]

Does tongue weight increase trailer load capacity?

I thought this might have been covered somewhere already, but I can't find it. Example: A trailer with a 5880 lb payload rating (7000-1120=5880), with say 750-1,000 lbs on the tongue. Will this safely haul a 5900 lb excavator?

www.tractorbynet.com

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[dstig1]

Yeah you hear about it once in a while where the trailer manufacturer is gaming the stats a bit by taking out the tongue weight to "add back" some capacity to allow the axles the meet their rating. Technically the tongue weight is carried by the truck, not the trailer axles. Seems like a bad game to play, IMO, but they do it...

 

[Jerry/MT]

I'm shopping 16k trailers and I found a company making one with an advertised 14500 payload. It has dual 7k axles and weighs 3100lbs. How is this possible? Seems like it would have to have 8k axles and only weigh 1500lbs to make this happen.

Some of the load is carried by the tow vehicle. How is "payload" defined?

For my gooseneck, GVWR of the trailer= trailer weight + payload. Since it's a goose neck, 15% of the GVWR should be carried on the tow vehicle. If the trailer has 7000 lb axles, the total load on the trailer axle should be less than or equal to 14,000 lbs. Our trailer weighs about 5000 lbs empty. if the trailer GVWR =16,000 then 16000 x 0.15= 2400 lbs is carried on the tow vehicle and 16,000 -2400=-13,600 lbs the trailer axles. The payload is then 16,000 -5000 = 11,000 lbs. The tow vehicle must be rated to take the total load, called the gross combined weight rating GCWR. If vehicle axles are not rated for this then payload must be off loaded to meet the GCWR

This is my understanding of this issue.