1 ton and auto tranny?

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Going to be in the market for a new 3/4 or 1 ton truck and curious about the new trucks with automatics. I have always ran standards from back in the early 80's. Thinking on this one an auto would be nice. Will be looking at all brands with gas engine and 4x4. Will be used for towing upto 10-12k several times a year.
What brands seem to have the better auto? The F-250's at work have held up good but really like the new chevy trucks. Have mainly had dodge diesels/standards.
 
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I have a 03 Chevy with the DuraMax and Allison auto, love the tranny but not sure if you can get it in a gas engine. ON a side note my diesel is just shy of 100K and gets about 20MPG guys with the gas tell me they get about 16
 
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If you mean a brand new (current model year) truck, I don't believe there are any manuals left. Ford got rid of it with the new SD model a couple years ago, and I believe they were the last holdout. I could be wrong and if so someone will be along to correct me shortly, but that was what I recalled.
 
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If you mean a brand new (current model year) truck, I don't believe there are any manuals left. Ford got rid of it with the new SD model a couple years ago, and I believe they were the last holdout. I could be wrong and if so someone will be along to correct me shortly, but that was what I recalled.

Did not realize that. Have not been to a dealer yet, still trying to decide 1 ton or 3/4 ton. Will be new or a 1 or 2 yrs old/low miles. depending on deal i find.
 
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Dodge still has the handshaker, but you loose almost 200 ft-lb of torque (Cummins) if you take it. With the way the new autos are, I would not touch a hand shaker.
 
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I bought my first 1 ton in 1986. (a low mileage 1985 GMC) I've had one ever since.
Started out with GM/454/4 sp. ('85, '88, '92 w/5 sp)
Bought Ford/7.3 diesel/5 sp after that. ('93)
Then went with Ford/7.3/auto. ('96, '00, '02, '03) Still have the '03.
I bought these trucks for business use, and they usually had a trailer hooked to them.
Just my experience, but I only had transmission trouble with the '92 GMC and '93 Ford 5 speeds, and the '02 Ford automatic. The '92 tranny had to be rebuilt at 6000 miles, and was coming apart again at 10000. So, I traded it in on a Ford diesel. That '03 wouldn't hold a clutch. Clutch, pressure plate, and flywheel was replaced, under warranty, 4 times in 30,000 miles. The dealership owner actually talked me into trading it in on a new truck with the auto. Haven't bought a handshaker in a new 1 ton since. The '02 was a fluke. The transmission had a faulty electronic circuit board that shorted out with only about 9000 miles on it. Ford replaced the transmission and that fixed it. No more problems. The only reason it was traded for the '03 was that I wanted a brand new 7.3 before they were all gone. And, that's why I still have that '03. It's not for sale or trade either. ;) I have it and a '97 F-250 with the 7.3's and I plan to run them until they can't be patched up anymore. (and that should be a long time)
 
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You could not give me a manual with the new autos. Best of the bunch in a gas truck is tge Ford Torque Shift hands down. In a diesel the Allison and Ford are tied. If Dodge would put the 4500 series asian tranny in the 3500 series they would have a winner.

Ford dumped sticks in 05 and GM in 07. Dodge still has them but at a penalizing hp/tq loss.

Chris
 
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I have a 2010 F-350 dually flat bed with gas v10. I was always a diesel guy till this truck. I pull 11,800 with it 130 miles. My route of travel takes me through some good hills then down the thruway at 70 mph. The rear end has 4.10 gears. My trailer is tag a long, not goose neck. The truck does VERY well. Admittedly there is less torque then my previous diesels, but not enough to justify the cost of the diesel motor. You could probably pull 10-12k with an F-250 diesel and goose neck, but you stated a gasser. That and the dually has way better sway resistance. I hope this helps, if you need more info you can always PM me.
 
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my chevy 2011 3500hd 4x4 6.0l gas SRW 10,700 gvwr 4.11 gears i pulled 14k once it was ok the hills it would go bout 50 mph over them it puuls my 7040su loaded rear tires cast centers fel 4x4 just fine on my 20' trailer i would say auto tranny in todays trucks are the way to go you got tow hual mode and manuel mode in gm i got 17k on the truck i owned a 94 chevy 2500 with nv4500 it i will never own another mauel in a truck again in a tractor that a diffrent story
 
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Diamondpilot said:
You could not give me a manual with the new autos...

Ford dumped sticks in 05 and GM in 07...

Chris

My 2008 F250 has the 6 speed ZF. Ordered it that way. Nobody asks to borrow it.

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You couldn't give me a pickup with an auto. Diesels were meant to lug and nothing beats a Cummins with a load behind it and a manual trans.

I can't stand autos, even the new ones. That being said, according to the recent reviews, the current Allison is in a class of its own.
 
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This is why I took my 1999 F25 7.3 PU with 6 speed through the shop for a little rust repair and paint. 191K mile and running strong. It is turned up a bit (old superships microtuner with MBRP exhaust/ free flowing intake and guages). It pulls well and is a blast to drive!

i will say that if buying a new rig, the autos are so well matched to keep the truck in its torque range, that an auto would be the best choice regardless if a manual is an option or not. (Just not as fun! I just picked up a 2012 Jetta TDI wit 6 speed as my commuter car-Yhessah!)
 
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My 2008 F250 has the 6 speed ZF. Ordered it that way. Nobody asks to borrow it.

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Yeah I was pretty sure Ford held on to the manual until the new series in 2011. They were pretty scarce towards the end, though.
 
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Only GM gasoline truck with an Auto-shifter worthwhile is the 8.1 L mated to an Allison trans. Too bad they stop production years ago. If you find a 8.1 Auto-shifter ... buy it !
 
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hey hosspuller i begg to differ an 8.1 s a gas hog a buddy had one i have a 2011 6.0l 3500 srw 4.11 it pulls anything a want i goss ount 20k on the scale it pull it the truck wirghts 6600ibs dry and they eat oil a quart in 2k miles
 
 
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