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So which one did others decide to go with? Permatran 821XL Plus Extended Life Or Permatran 821XL Semi-Synthetic

The Massey lug bolts have a taper. You have to buy bolts to install the spacers. The bolts you buy have a smaller head, but they are the same shank size. Then the spacers come with their own studs and nuts for mounting the wheels to the spacers. No issues. Real simple install.

Got them installed.

I ended up buying these. SCITOO 2X 2 inch 5x114.3mm 5 Lug Wheel Spacers Adapters 5x4.5 to 5x4.5 1/2"x20 82.5mm CB fit for Ranger Mustang Explorer for Je-ep Grand for Cherokee https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01HGDW4LQ/ref=cm_sw_r_apan_glt_fabc_FYTS947ST8DZ1E6NSYWZ

Got the last of the wood in the barn before the rain. I feel good.

I like how simple that is for those of us that won't be using a mid-mount mower.

Something similar is what I'm thinking.

So one can't do either other?

It tows just fine. I see now what the confusion was, you guys thought I wanted to tow the tractor in that trailer. Ha!

And here is another thread in another forum about it: https://www.mytractorforum.com/threads/new-massey-ferguson-gc1725mb-hydraulic-noise.1348726/

Mine is brand new 2021 MF GC1725M and it is sometimes is louder than other times. I would have thought the newer ones would have this resolved.

Yeah, that's about what I thought. I think I would have rather had the extra $1500 to spend on implements. No regrets... Just saying. Because there's always something. Maybe if I went the e route, I might have later wished I had the extra hp.

How much more is the GC1725M over the GC1723E?

Actually, a momentary switch and then just an led on the dash would be a rather simple diy. Thanks.

So far I'm really liking it. One little thing they should add that wouldn't be too difficult is a little light on the dash when you are in 4wd. That way you don't forget you have it in 4wd when you're driving on pavement.

Added 4 hours to the meter moving more rounds and leveling out 4 12-yard dump truck loads of dirt.

I guess I should just go by the owner's manual.

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I just remembered, he suggested I use 'off road diesel'. . I searched and found this thread: https://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/index.php?threads/225666/

When the guy dropped it off, he went over stuff on it. I asked if gas station pump diesel was okay, or did he recommend something else. He said he didn't recommend using the diesel that people pump into their trucks because it often has a percentage of bio-diesel in it - kinda like ethanol in...

Yeah, and a couple bells and whistles for the m vs the e.

I would have liked to get the MB. Just a little over my budget.

No, mine does not have a backhoe. That would be the 1725MB. Mine is the GC1725M, no B. The 1723E is the economy version. GC1723EB is economy version with a backhoe.

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Yay! I now get to be part of this huge thread. There's one like this over in the classic truck forum I frequent. . Day late, but I moved a bunch of rounds into the barn within hours of getting my gc1725m.

Thanks, I watched lots and lots of YouTube videos and was pretty convinced it was a good choice. . I'm definitely going to give it a run for its money. I need to count them, but have a lot of those rounds to move into the barn to split. Judging by how much I got done yesterday, I'll be working...

My tractor came yesterday. I went with the GC1725M because it was the next one coming into the dealership. I'm not sure how much real gain there is in relation to cost to go with the E vs the M. For what few things you get with the M over the E, I'm thinking the E is the bigger bang for the buck.

Delivery

Pretty exciting. Put 2 hours on it moving firewood rounds into the barn.

All this wondering, and they delivered it no extra charge. [emoji3526]

Is that a wagon bed?

I was going to go that route, but decided the carry all will have so much more uses than just packing tools and supplies around.

Yep, still an old thread, but on topic. I was shopping around and it appears everyone around me wants a lot more for these than they wanted only a few years back. TSC has the County Line for $199. https://www.tractorsupply.com/tsc/product/countyline-carry-all. . I could do an hour drive round...

Yeah, I'm thinking the same. It doesn't make sense to put a block of weight back there that hasn't any other use. A carry all can be used for so much more. And when you need more weight, just put it on the carry all.

Have you woke up yet?

Here is the trailer that I hauled a yard of gravel in.

I'll just stay on the back roads. ;)

The dealer I talked to said they are waiting and waiting on orders to arrive. Production is way down.

That's a good perspective. If I bought new for 20,000, sold in 2 years for 10,000. Then 10,000 divided by 24 months = 416 per month. If I only use the tractor 2 times a month (which I'm going to easily do), I'd say it'll still be worth it. Home depot wants over $300 to rent a BX one day.

Shopping for a used tractor can be a struggle. There was a Kubota at a dealership down near Salem that was advertised for $8995. I called to get some more info. They then said the ad was wrong and thought it was closer to $10,500. I said I'm interested but asked them to verify the price with the...

I have a trailer and my 65 1/2 ton that I have gotten a yard of gravel with that got a little shaky over 40 mph - but that could have been the way the load was over the axle. 1 yard of gravel Approximate Weight per cubic yard: 2400 lbs The sub-compact loader is about 500 lbs & the GC1725M is...

Thanks guys, I'll probably pay to have it delivered. It's a gc1725m with only a loader.

Thiz and my Corolla is allz I need.

Perhaps a 1-Ton trailer will be sufficient? Should the trailer have trailer brakes? If no trailer brakes, will a 1/2 ton pickup pulling the trailer be sufficient? Thanks, Robert

And between the 1723E and 1725M, you'd really be getting a lot of bang for the buck. I went with the 1725M because that was the next one they said was coming into their lot. They said they are waiting weeks and perhaps months for orders. Otherwise, I would have went with the E.

I just watched this video: . Looking down at the bottom of his spreadsheet, it appears along comparable models, the MF is $3000 less than a JD, and $1500 less than a Kubota. .

Just put a deposit on it yesterday. It was supposedly one already ordered in, so they said hopefully in the next few weeks.

Putting that on my list also. Fill the tires for weight and space them out a little for stability. Thanks

I'm really glad I found this thread. I just made a commitment to a GC1725M. I have been reading and reading on used and have done no research on new. I saw a nice used Kubota B with a loader that was listed at a dealership about an hour away for 8995. US When I called about it, the sales person...

How about a 2021 MF GC1725M? I can buy it or rent a BX from home Depot 50 times.

That's a good point. I can pick up and drop off a rental without the time of maintaining my own.

I have saved up at least $8000 by doing side jobs. So, if I have to cut and run and lose all of it, I won't feel like I lost "Family" money.

Thanks everyone. I was convinced, I just needed some reassurance. . As far as my handle... (Username) LostMy65 was the username I came up with for a classic truck forum I joined 11 years ago. I had a 65 Chevy pickup truck that I owned in the 12th grade back in 1983. I sold it in 87 and never...

If I buy a new $20,000 tractor and some major issue comes up in my life and I have to sell it. What roughly would be my loss in 2 years? . Ok, so now, instead I rent a tractor every time I need one. I could seriously see myself wanting/needing a tractor to use at least once a month. $300 to rent...

Did anyone research into the yanmars he has? I guess people say to avoid 'reconditioned' yanmars. He says he gets his from Japan and not Korea.

Yes, he has gotten quite a few in. One John Deere, that's gone now, I would have liked.

If I could get a few more comments from those familiar with Steve. I'm seriously considering getting something from him.

Our Jubilee back in 75. Grandpa, Dad, Me and my cousin.

I've been searching the forums for over a month now. I try not to start threads without searching first. . Anyway, I know little about tractors since the 8n. I live on 4 acres, heavily wooded, semi sloped. . I want something easy to work on and large availability of parts. I have decent...

Hello, grew up on 5 acres in California with an 8n. Dad had me do a lot on that tractor. Haven't been on a tractor in over 35 years. 55 now and looking for a tractor for our 4 acres in Beavercreek Oregon. Lots of rocks and boulders and trees. Slope of about 8 feet per 100 feet. Been reading and...