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There was nothing ‘custom’ about EA products and they had been doing it as far as I can remember which is going in more than a decade. Sure, running into production delays and having some back orders from tome to time is part of running a successful business but to have your business model...

Exactly, i’m worried there’s potential for this to get a lot uglier than it already is.

I’ve done my fair share of building in NC and generally the only way a project passes all the inspections leading up to and then failing a CO which cannot be remedied involve a lack of funds to finish. Now divvying up blame from there is getting pretty far out in the weeds of conjecture, but...

That’s kind my point though. I don’t think prepayment was a ‘policy’ as much as the means to keep the business running that perpetuated for far too long. I may be out of the loop somewhat on the story, or maybe everyone is, but didn’t the contractor building the factory put liens on EA for...

I’m willing to bet the farm that they wouldn’t have stayed open as long as they did without charging 100% upfront on orders with TBD production and shipping time frames. Unintended or not, Perpetually running a business model on paid in full back orders smells too much like a a pyramid scheme...

Yes, sold

I am/was in a fairly similar position. Sold a tractor to get a UTV, then realized the UTV would not do the work I needed it to do, and am now searching for a Toolcat. Mine will be for private use on my property up in the mountains where having one tool serve as many functions as possible is the...

Someone please correct me if i’m wrong but i believe it was the early machines (through 2006) with the live axles that had the drive motor issue and was corrected on 2007 models with the new independent suspension??? I know at the very least the part numbers on the drove motors changed at that...

Sorry, failed to mention it’s a 2006 5600 turbo ‘C’ series

Ok, I'll give it a try.

So I finally found a machine.....albeit on the opposite end of the spectrum with only 800 hours. From what I've read most if not all early Toolcats experienced the drive motor issue and most machines should've experienced the failure and/or had the drive motors repaired by now. The super low...

Thanks for that pic. Turned out the 2012 did not have traction control. The switch on the 2012 for what I had thought was the traction control as found in the 2014+ F series, was actually the strobe light function as found in the earlier machines you have pictured.

Hi all, wondering what everybody considers 'high/low/average' hours on Toolcats. I am considering a 2012 machine with 2600 hours. I wouldn't consider that high hours but was hoping to try to stay under 2000 hours which I would equate to more of a low machine. With the myriad of uses and work...

Looks like the same traction control switch found the 2014+ G series but in a 2012 F series, not the diff lock of the earlier series.

So I just found a 2012 Toolcat that supposedly has the traction control option. I've come across varying opinions as to whether or not only the 2014+ G series machines had a traction control system. Would a 2012 F series have the same traction control system as the G series? I though I had...

From what i’ve found through searching around the hydraulics serve a controller that actuate mechanical springs to stop the wheels. Is that correct that there is a secondary mechanical braking system that works in conjunction with the self braking of the hydrostatic drive? Is this the case...

Thanks for all the responses. What’s everybody’s take on the travel speed of the turbo vs non turbo? Bobcat lists both the turbo and non turbo with the same top speed, but what about under load? The machine will be used to traverse supplies up and down my STEEP mountain property. Some of its...

Hi all, Still searching for a used Toolcat. I think i’ve zeroed in on the 2006 model because of the limited slip differential and the updated boom with increased curling ability. From what I can gather the 2004-2006 models had the option of turbo vs non-turbo engines. Anybody have any buying...

Ok, thanks for that. I'm leaning towards I should probably be more worried about rust than lack of traction when comparing machines. A traction control machine would be nice but the newer machines are probably out of my price range at the moment.

Hi all, Contemplating a Toolcat purchase to maintain my steep mountain property. I've heard of issues/complaints of traction power from these machines I believe from all the various traction aids that have been available on toolcats. Wondering though if there is a consensus as to which aid or...

It definitely wasn’t quiet, but was actually noticeably quieter than the JD 3025 it replaced. The 3025 was probably the loudest machine i’ve owned through. All my diesel compact tractors have always been very loud compared to my excavators, despite all having same/similar engines to the...

Sold to a good home not too far away.

Lowering price to $25,000 for my 1430 and attachments. Anything lower and I'll probably just hang on to her.

Price lowered to $25k for everything. Anything much lower and I'll probably just keep her.

Yeah, that was originally the one attachment I was considering keeping as I will still likely need an auger at some point. Not sure how easy it would be to find or make a mounting a setup for it versus renting one for the excavator when needed though. I only have a tiny little 4000# mini ex...

Hi All, Decided to list my near new 1430 for sale. Came to the conclusion that I'm better off purchasing a larger excavator and just working with that and my JD gator up at my mountain property. Last ever Deutz 1430 purchased from Power Trac last October. Located in western NC...

Hi all, Looking to fund the purchase of a larger excavator so I'm looking to sell my Power Trac which will get seldom use going forward. This is the last Deutz diesel powered 1430 ever sold by Power Trac last October as they were making the switch to gas powered 1430s. The 1430 reads 77 hours...

I picked up the gator from a guy who refurbishes them. Takes them apart, resprays them, mine got a new yanmar, belts, clutches, chains, suspension, seats, tire, etc All and all the power trac is much more well rounded machine. I realized i’ve failed to mention that i have a small mini ex up...

So I added to the fleet of mountain equipment today. Military order gator, 6x4, diesel with mostly all new running gear. We’ll see how it does (or more like how quickly) getting up and down our mountain. If all goes to plan it’ll handle the chores of bringing supplies up and down, which is 90%...

I did it once, vowed to never do it again. Then my wife did it again, lol.

Hi all, So we’ve ended up paving the steep road at our mountain property. This has relegated my PT1430 I purchased last fall to mostly supply mover/transporter type duties that may be better suited for an UTV. Gauging if there’s any interest in my near new 1430. It’s one of the last units sold...

Unfortunately a dedicated mower isn’t an option. The areas to mow are too steep for 2wd, it’s long drive up and down my steep mountain road for a slow garden tractor, and i don’t have room to store another tractor/mower. My options are a mower deck for the PT, a weed eater (which i’ve been...

Got the new solenoid swapped on and the tractor starts properly again. Looks like a lot of the shelf solenoids should do the trick.

Hi all, I’m going to be in the market for a mower for my diesel 1430 this year. It’ll see rather infrequent use and would only be mowing very small yards as a time Here’s my options 1) PT 60” commercial finish mower. Haven’t seen one in person. Almost $4000. Not sure if i can justify the cost...

I have a 1430 and am contemplating making a 3 pt mower work for it as opposed to spending $4000 on commercial mower which would see rather infrequent use. Would this motor work on a 60” deck for a 1430 or is the HP number going throw wrench in the math equation?

Just wanted to follow up. Got the battery tested on deep charge test and everything tested out ok. I called Terry at PT and when I told him that I could typically get it to start after turning the key on/off repeatedly he said that it sounded like the aftermarket solenoid was bad. He told me to...

Thanks for the replies. I have my 1430 400 miles away from my home property close to nothing up in the mountains, so the guidance is always appreciated when I’m up at the property with the tractor. I’ll bring the battery back home and have it load tested. I would think that a jumper box would...

Hi All, I’ve developed a starting issue on my 1430. Left the key on once, and then my wife a second time, and thought the battery was going dead but am now not so sure. Charged the battery out of the tractor to 14+ volts on my multimeter. Once the battery is installed voltage immediately...

Thanks for all the responses. I think you’re correct. It was much warmer today pushing close to 50°. Started the tractor, let it warm up a good 15 minutes, and it ran/drove pretty much as normal. Pretty sure that’s just the nature of the beast at this point. I’ll still plan on changing...

That was my initial reaction. I had previously ran the tractor around Thanksgiving in similar temps and it didn’t act like this though. The other day it did seem to be at or close to full power once warmed up. Even then though the pedal was still slow to react and didn’t have the torque from...

I checked the oil when it first happened. Oil level looked correct. Oil looked very clean. I did notice that the oil cap was a bit loose, was worried that some condensation could’ve worked it’s way into the oil. Nothing really sounds different and it doesn’t seem to be in relief.

Hi all, so i’ve got my first issue with my 1430. Just some background, I bought the last diesel 1430 that was the showroom floor model. Tractor shows 17 hours, but the hour meter was unplugged when it arrived, so it could definitely have some more hours than that. It’s still on its original oil...

Awesome! Thanks so much for measuring that. This forum is invaluable resource when it comes to a more DIY equipment like power trac. After quickly measuring mine in the dark it appears I was a bit off with my eyeballing and the angle on the frame is more like 7-8°. It looks like with mounting...

Thanks for the responses. I was aware of the mounting angle on the PT forks but was not sure how much that angle should be, and ot how much it would affect the range of motion with the forks. I’ve lucked out somewhat though that the fork frame has somewhat of an angle on the bottom where the...

Hey everybody, I picked up a set of forks yesterday for my new 1430. Starting the process of getting ready to weld the PT mourning plate I got with the tractor to the pallet forks. The 1430 is 400 miles away from me, the forks, and where the fabrication will take place though and had a quick...

You’re right. Looking at the price sheet for the 425 it looks like it has same the 800# rating for the forks as its lift capacity. The fact that they have what appear to be 4000# rated tines for their forks for the 1430 is telling me that the 2000# tines are probably too small for the 1430...

That’s odd that they have those forks listed as 1200#. Those are much beefier than the 2000# forks on my bx and the same size as the Titan forks on my JD 3025 which are rated at 4000#. They must be using a some sort of different rating formula. The BX forks are a made in USA frame and Chinese...

Didn’t mean to insinuate cheap. Power track has their forks listed with a 1200# rating when typical light duty forks are considered 2000#. Wondering if they’re using a different type of rating. What are the actual size of your forks? I have a set of forks with 42”x3”x1” tines for my small bx...

Yeah, they need to double check their pricing lol. My 4 n 1 bucket was $2800 and they want $2600 for some light duty forks?!?

After sleeping on it and doing the math, lo, I think i’m back to original plan…. Kinda. I do want to keep the weight down as much as possible on the forks. $2600 for a set of forks is astronomically high and I found a set of lighter weight ssqa forks, in stock, reasonably close enough to me for...

I’ll write up a more detailed post on the tractor itself over the weekend, but yes, it was the last diesel they had sold off the showroom floor. Had been waiting several month for it and they had gone back and forth on if it was already spoken for or not, so I was excited when I got the call it...

Feel free to add me. tommott77 NC 1430 (last diesel model)

That’s far superior to my original idea, lol. Like how the weight sits on the adapter plate as opposed to some welds on a fork frame. Obviously like the idea of being able to utilize other ssqa attachments as well. I’d love to utilize the same idea with another PT weld on plate and 3 point...

Hi all, happy thanksgiving. I got the last diesel powered 1430 (I’ll write a more detailed post on that in a bit) delivered to me along with an adapter plate I was planning on using for some pallets forks as it looks like the forks from Power trac are about $2000 overpriced. Any...

Increasing the lift capacity/safety margin by adding weight to the back. Wasn’t sure if the pivot joint is a weak link and why nobody does it as they would with traditional tractors. I just had the last diesel powered 1430 delivered to me last week btw.

I have always wondered why more people haven’t done this and if this was also the reason why not???

Sold

Excellent Condition 2019 John Deere 1025R for sale. Comes with 120R Loader, 54” mower deck, and CTA grapple (proper lightweight grapple for sub compacts tractors), powered by an Artillian diverter valve. Everything is in excellent condition. Tractor has 85 hours. Grapple is basically brand new...

They didn’t have any yet but sounds like the next month or two. Or at least that’s when it sounded like they’d be rotating out the floor model

Well I got back home with my little BX from Tazwell today. I stopped by Power Trac on my way home this morning. After speaking to Christie and Terry he also recommended the 1430 and had me test both 2430 and 1439 side by side. I was impressed with both machines, and though both would have a bit...

Don’t worry! The BX and its little 18hp will be residing across the state at my leas than 1 acre property. I have a John Deere 3025 that stays up at the mountain property. The 2430 should have a good bit more loader capacity than the 3025 and hopefully be a bit more stable especially on the...

It’s steep! Literally on the side of a cliff of a mountain. 15 degrees or probably close to 25+% grade in spots. And that’s just the finished first half. Steep to the point where I’m having to drag up more than down. A 2430 will weigh a bit more and have a couple more HP than the tractor...

I won’t be getting the backhoe though which looks like it’s shaves 800-900# off the tractor

...Kubota bx 1880, lol. Found a smoking deal on a used machine. I’m doing this though to sell some other tractors and free up some cash flow for a potential 2430 purchase. I will be stopping by Power Trac to check out the 2430s Thursday morning though. Pretty sure I’ll be picking one up in the...

Thanks for that. I had been on there several times but last night it all finally made sense to me with the way they had it broken down into the different generations of tractors/loaders. What do people do with their original buckets that switch to the bxpanded quick connect? With the EA...

Hi All, I've been looking at BX18xxs to fit my need as a smaller end of the spectrum SCUT for my home property. I have had Deere SCUTs in the past but want to try Kubota as they appear to be somewhat smaller machines (especially the 1870 and older BX18s) compared to Deere and I want to try...

Good job! Nice job! I was tempted to ask them what they were going to do with their floor model when I was their myself. When I go back out, lol.

Nice! How did you locate a used one? Would love to find a newer used 1340. I’ve been keeping my eye for a bit and it looks like they’re listings for used PTs is not updated very often and whatever I see on there is already sold.

I’ve had several subcompacts over the years and quickly moved up to larger equipment as I bought more property. I prefer my subcompact to able to be competent mowers above pushing it to its limits when larger tractors/equipment can handle those types of jobs more efficiently and safely. The...

I have seen and noticed that difference. My John Deere 3025e that I use to work up in the mountains has that same style loader close in to the tractor like the CASE. That really isn't a concern for my application however as the only one who would be using the loader on the home tractor would be...

The Kubota BX1880 is actually where I started my search and was the model I was most familiar with as far as smaller SCUTs go. However it's all actually a big (small) misnomer of a tractor. Unfortunately it's actually the same frame as the rest of the BX lineup just with a smaller engine and...

Which Power Trac model did you end up going with?

Thanks for all the replies. In terms of some of the questions. Yes, I make sure to have the loader removed when she mows with it. In talking to her it's the ROPS that her main concern as we have a lot of trees and obstacles to drive around. Thanks for the advice and suggestions on the tractors...

The funny thing is when I'm out of town I'm up working at our mountain property where I'm almost using my larger tractor and mini-excavator. The problem is I just don't use the loader enough to justify keeping the 1025 and a mower, and the I will be losing storage space when I get my project...

Hi all, Looking for some guidance/recommendations to fit a small niche need I have for a tractor to maintain and work my small home property. In essence I'm looking the smallest SCUT out there or a large garden tractor with a loader. Currently I have a JD 1025 and an Kubota G1900 but would...

I agree with most all the sentiments made in the gas vs diesel debate but the main thing for me that hasn’t been brought up is short term reliability. Sometimes I’ll spend two full days driving to/from my property for one day of work with my tractor. If I have to spend any time on bad gas...

That makes sense and follows what I've seen speced out on the other loaders. I guess my next question based off that, is if the hydraulics aren't the limiting factoring in lift capacity what comes next after tipping load? Front wheels/cylinders, center union joint, or will you be running out...

Hi all, I've been bouncing around the idea of a Power Trac purchase for a bit and have posted here a couple times with some questions. I had somewhat given up on them due to 1430 being unavailable amid a switchover to gas power. I just looked and contacted them and the 2430s are still available...

I'd love a report back as well as I'm in your exact same situation. I stopped by Tazewell the beginning part of the year interested in the 1430 only to find that they aren't stocking those due to the change to the gas motors. Thought about a 425 as well but I really want/need a diesel powered...

Man...wish I would've seen this a couple months ago. Curious about the 3 pt hitch. Was that installed by Power Trac originally or was added by someone afterwards? Been considering a 2430 but if you can get a 3 point hitch on one I'm very interested.

I’ve seen the attachment plates that they have. Putting and welding that together with the 3pt setup on the flail would be easy enough. Not sure what’s involved with finding, sizing, and fitting a hydraulic drive motor th

Hey all, sorry I have an update albeit a late one. I was able to get to Tazewell a couple weeks back. It was 20 degrees, snowing, and icy out so only got a quick test drive on a 425. The 1430 was too large for really what would be needed at my home property. The 425 is about the perfect size...

Hi all, I am considering looking into buying a power trac. They've been on my radar for a while but it looks like they're capabilities are starting to fall well into a line of needs that can soon be handled by one tractor for me. I've had several 1 series John Deere tractors, a 3025E, and a...

Hi all hydraulic gurus. Looking for some guidance for those way beyond my rudimentary knowledge/skill set of hydraulic power. I am in the process of purchasing a like new CAT 301.7D mini ex for some work at some property I own and for the neighboring properties of our POA in the NC mountains. I...

Hi all, I am considering buying a mini excavator to replace and then sell the woods backhoe I have on my John Deere 3025E. New minis are gong to be out of price range and I'm looking used. The machine will be used on my severely sloped mountain property and doing work to maintain the roads in...

Hi all, I have a Woodmaxx hydraulic shift flail mower being delivered this week, courtesy of my super awesome girlfriend as a 40th b'day/xmas present. I have a John Deere 3025e and plan to run the mower hydraulics off my loader control. I have to next to no knowledge on hydraulic fittings and...

Hi all, First post here after utilizing this website as a resource for several years now. Last year I purchased a JD 1023 for mowing, maintenance, and odd jobs for both my smaller (around 1 acre all lawn) property and several other even smaller properties that I own, maintain, and manage. Was...