12 States to ban diesel vehicles

[not2old]

And I'm terribly old school and I hate change.....any kind of change.

I'm old school too, and the change I hate the worst is getting old. I was old enough fifteen years ago.

 

[ultrarunner]

The USA is the odd one out most of the developed world is heading this way to avoid destruction of the world via climate change The USA will need to fall into line or it will be forced to by the new world powers that will be in charge by then
As of August 2025, at least 27 European Union (EU) countries have legally committed to banning the sale of new petrol and diesel cars by 2035. In addition to the EU, several major non-EU countries—including the United Kingdom, Canada, Japan, South Korea, China (as policy target), and smaller nations such as Iceland and Israel—have set out similar plans or public policy targets for ending the sale of new fossil-fuel vehicles by 2035. Some countries have formalised these plans with legislation, while others are in advanced discussions or have strong government proposals.

Countries with Formal Plans or Active Discussion for 2035 Ban​

• EU27: Austria, Belgium, Bulgaria, Croatia, Cyprus, Czech Republic, Denmark, Estonia, Finland, France, Germany, Greece, Hungary, Ireland, Italy, Latvia, Lithuania, Luxembourg, Malta, Netherlands, Poland, Portugal, Romania, Slovakia, Slovenia, Spain, Sweden
• United Kingdom
• Canada
• Japan (hybrids may still be permitted)
• South Korea
• China (policy target includes Hong Kong and Macau)
• Iceland
• Israel
• Chile
• Thailand (proposal, but not legally binding yet)
• Liechtenstein
• New Zealand (signatory to accelerated adoption; formal ban date is 2040 but engaged in the 2035 conversation)
• Norway (target for 2025, even stronger than 2035)
• Singapore (diesel and petrol bans, final phase out by 2040, with strong actions by 2030 and 2035)
• India (certain states with strong 2035-2040 plans)

Estimates from widely cited sources place the total at more than 30 countries that either have official legislation, binding government intent, or are in advanced public discussions about banning the sale of new petrol and/or diesel vehicles by 2035. Some countries, such as Norway and Singapore, have set even earlier targets, while others like the United States have state-level commitments (e.g. California) but not a national-level ban for 2035.

Key Points​

• All 27 EU countries will fully ban new petrol/diesel car sales by 2035.
• More than 30 countries worldwide (including key non-EU economies) have legislation, official government proposals, or strong national discussions about a 2035 ban on new internal combustion engine (ICE) vehicles.
• Scope and details may differ, for instance, some allow hybrids, while others enforce stricter criteria.
• Several other countries have 2040 or later as their official ban year, but are signatories to international declarations aiming for the "as close as possible to 2035" goal.

This number may continue to increase as climate policies evolve and other countries formal

I believe the greatest environmental disaster is China and Russia plus the horrendous environmental damage from years of war plus shelling nuclear power plants, ships torpedoed, refineries destroyed.

With all this happening my California city has banned my gas brush cutters for fuel load reduction to save the world…

 

[Dftodd]

Guess I'm the odd man out here. I LIKE internal combustion. I like the smell, the sound, the feel of them. That's why I will never go EV. Those are just appliances to me. I don't care what I have to pay for fuel.
I'm also the the guy that still uses hand tools such as wrenches and ratchets.....even changing tires on my big rigs when I had them. I never use power tools or impacts.
My impact is a breaker bar with a 4 foot pipe on it, LOL

I work on stuff stuff daily. Sometimes ridiculous amounts of bolts.

I'll use my impacts and save my joints as much as possible.

 

[timbatrader]

sounds like a threat. where did you get this copy and paste? notes from the virtue signalling World Economic Forum? We're always the odd one out, that's what makes us the best nation in the world.
China?, Now there's some real genuine commitment.....a government that unleashed a bio weapon on the world and killed millions.

I knew it was a common expectation to phase out ICE through out the world so I just asked AI for the details go ahead and ask AI yourself The USA is so out of line with most first world countries that it is rapidly becoming a third world country

 

[timbatrader]

I believe the greatest environmental disaster is China and Russia plus the horrendous environmental damage from years of war plus shelling nuclear power plants, ships torpedoed, refineries destroyed.

With all this happening my California city has banned my gas brush cutters for fuel load reduction to save the world…

China is bad but working hard on improvement USA under the current leadership is basically just telling the world F you
Here's a comprehensive comparison of the USA and China’s carbon dioxide (CO₂) emissions—covering their historical records, current levels, and predicted futures:

1. Historical Emissions​

United States​

• The U.S. was the world’s top emitter for much of the 20th century and led cumulative emissions into the 21st century.
• Total cumulative U.S. CO₂ emissions since 1850: over 532 billion tons—more than any other country.
• In 2005, emissions peaked at roughly 6.6 billion tons, and have declined since.
• Annual emissions in 2000: ~5.7 billion tons; 2014: 6.87 billion tons; 2020: ~5.2 billion tons.

China​

• China’s emissions were much lower than the USA’s until the early 2000s.
• Around 2006, China overtook the USA as the top annual emitter.
• Cumulative emissions (within its borders, since 1850): 312 billion tons as of 2023—still behind the USA but recently surpassing the EU.
• In 2000, China emitted ~3.4 billion tons; by 2010: ~8.1 billion tons; 2020: nearly 12 billion tons.

2. Present-Day Emissions​

United States (2023–2024)​

• 2023: ~4.8–4.9 billion metric tons (Gt) CO₂; a 2.7% decrease from 2022; emissions are now more than 20% below 2005 levels.
• Largest sectoral source: transportation, followed by electricity and industry.
• Per capita emissions: ~15–17 tons per person yearly, among the world’s highest for large economies.

China (2023–2024)​

• 2023–2024: Stable at 12.6–15.8 Gt CO₂, accounting for about 35% of global annual emissions.
• 2025: For the first time, evidence of a possible 1%–1.6% year-on-year decrease, driven by massive growth in wind, solar, and nuclear replacing coal in the power sector.
• Per capita emissions: ~10 tons per person—above the world and EU average, but still below the U.S..
• Sectoral source: Mostly coal for power and industrial sectors. China is also a net exporter of emissions through manufacturing.

3. Predicted Future Emissions​

United States​

• Long-term decline projected as renewable energy expands and legislation on climate (like the Inflation Reduction Act) takes effect.
• U.S. emissions expected to keep decreasing slowly, though the pace will depend on policy consistency.

China​

• Most analysts agree emissions are at or near their all-time peak, with some evidence the peak occurred recently.
• China has pledged its CO₂ emissions will peak by 2030 and reach net zero by 2060.
• Projections:
  • “Conservative” scenario: Plateau at current high levels until ~2028, then a slow decline (1.7%/year toward 2035).
  • “Optimistic” scenario: Peak around 2025, steeper decline (2.5%/year) if renewables outpace fossil growth, potentially lowering 2030 emissions by an additional 6% compared to the baseline.
• Future fluctuations are possible as economic stimulus and coal use—especially if directed to construction or heavy industry—influence year-to-year emissions.

4. Key Differences and Trends​

Aspect	USA	China
Cumulative emissions	World’s largest (since 1850)	2nd largest (since 1850, recently overtook the EU)
Peak year (annual)	2005 (~6.6 Gt)	~2023/24 (~15.8 Gt), consensus: 2022–2025 peak
Current annual (2023–24)	4.8–4.9 Gt	12.6–15.8 Gt
Sectoral source	Transport, electricity	Electricity (coal), industry
Per capita emissions	~15–17 tons/year	~10 tons/year
Future projection	Continued slow decline	Plateau, then decline after peak, steeper if clean transition accelerates

5. Summary​

• USA: Cumulative emissions remain highest in the world. Annual emissions have been falling for nearly two decades; predicted to continue slowly declining as clean energy grows.
• China: Now the world’s largest emitter both in total and as a share of the global total (about 35%). Its emissions plateaued at a very high level, and are projected to either stay stable for a few more years or start declining before 2030—especially if clean energy growth keeps outpacing fossil fuel demand.
• Both: Future emissions are highly dependent on policy enforcement, global energy economics, and the ability to accelerate the energy transition.

This comparison highlights the contrasting emissions trajectories and underscores the critical importance of ongoing energy transitions in both nations for the world’s climate future.

 

[Renze]

My impact is a breaker bar with a 4 foot pipe on it, LOL

My breaker bar had its name the other way around, so i took a half inch socket, welded several rounds of cut open, pipe around it, a foot of 30mm bar, with 3 inch of heavy walled tube at the end in T shape. I can stick 3 feet of bar in it, and when in doubt, slide 6 feet of pipe over it. I rarely need the torch

 

[Renze]

By the way, whats Trump doing with the EPA ? Relaxing diesel emissions, was that a hoax, or did i get only half of the story ?

 

[Torvy]

I knew it was a common expectation to phase out ICE through out the world so I just asked AI for the details go ahead and ask AI yourself The USA is so out of line with most first world countries that it is rapidly becoming a third world country

There's your problem...asking AI is like asking Wikipedia.

 

[Jstpssng]

While I agree with keeping our air clean, much of this is about a transfer of wealth.

 

[rontaki]

China is bad but working hard on improvement USA under the current leadership is basically just telling the world F you
Here's a comprehensive comparison of the USA and China’s carbon dioxide (CO₂) emissions—covering their historical records, current levels, and predicted futures:

1. Historical Emissions​

United States​

• The U.S. was the world’s top emitter for much of the 20th century and led cumulative emissions into the 21st century.
• Total cumulative U.S. CO₂ emissions since 1850: over 532 billion tons—more than any other country.
• In 2005, emissions peaked at roughly 6.6 billion tons, and have declined since.
• Annual emissions in 2000: ~5.7 billion tons; 2014: 6.87 billion tons; 2020: ~5.2 billion tons.

China​

• China’s emissions were much lower than the USA’s until the early 2000s.
• Around 2006, China overtook the USA as the top annual emitter.
• Cumulative emissions (within its borders, since 1850): 312 billion tons as of 2023—still behind the USA but recently surpassing the EU.
• In 2000, China emitted ~3.4 billion tons; by 2010: ~8.1 billion tons; 2020: nearly 12 billion tons.

2. Present-Day Emissions​

United States (2023–2024)​

• 2023: ~4.8–4.9 billion metric tons (Gt) CO₂; a 2.7% decrease from 2022; emissions are now more than 20% below 2005 levels.
• Largest sectoral source: transportation, followed by electricity and industry.
• Per capita emissions: ~15–17 tons per person yearly, among the world’s highest for large economies.

China (2023–2024)​

• 2023–2024: Stable at 12.6–15.8 Gt CO₂, accounting for about 35% of global annual emissions.
• 2025: For the first time, evidence of a possible 1%–1.6% year-on-year decrease, driven by massive growth in wind, solar, and nuclear replacing coal in the power sector.
• Per capita emissions: ~10 tons per person—above the world and EU average, but still below the U.S..
• Sectoral source: Mostly coal for power and industrial sectors. China is also a net exporter of emissions through manufacturing.

3. Predicted Future Emissions​

United States​

• Long-term decline projected as renewable energy expands and legislation on climate (like the Inflation Reduction Act) takes effect.
• U.S. emissions expected to keep decreasing slowly, though the pace will depend on policy consistency.

China​

• Most analysts agree emissions are at or near their all-time peak, with some evidence the peak occurred recently.
• China has pledged its CO₂ emissions will peak by 2030 and reach net zero by 2060.
• Projections:
  • “Conservative” scenario: Plateau at current high levels until ~2028, then a slow decline (1.7%/year toward 2035).
  • “Optimistic” scenario: Peak around 2025, steeper decline (2.5%/year) if renewables outpace fossil growth, potentially lowering 2030 emissions by an additional 6% compared to the baseline.
• Future fluctuations are possible as economic stimulus and coal use—especially if directed to construction or heavy industry—influence year-to-year emissions.

4. Key Differences and Trends​

Aspect	USA	China
Cumulative emissions	World’s largest (since 1850)	2nd largest (since 1850, recently overtook the EU)
Peak year (annual)	2005 (~6.6 Gt)	~2023/24 (~15.8 Gt), consensus: 2022–2025 peak
Current annual (2023–24)	4.8–4.9 Gt	12.6–15.8 Gt
Sectoral source	Transport, electricity	Electricity (coal), industry
Per capita emissions	~15–17 tons/year	~10 tons/year
Future projection	Continued slow decline	Plateau, then decline after peak, steeper if clean transition accelerates

5. Summary​

• USA: Cumulative emissions remain highest in the world. Annual emissions have been falling for nearly two decades; predicted to continue slowly declining as clean energy grows.
• China: Now the world’s largest emitter both in total and as a share of the global total (about 35%). Its emissions plateaued at a very high level, and are projected to either stay stable for a few more years or start declining before 2030—especially if clean energy growth keeps outpacing fossil fuel demand.
• Both: Future emissions are highly dependent on policy enforcement, global energy economics, and the ability to accelerate the energy transition.

This comparison highlights the contrasting emissions trajectories and underscores the critical importance of ongoing energy transitions in both nations for the world’s climate future.

Must be some really tasty Kool-Aid - you keep coming back for more!
Obviously most of us are too stupid, or just don't care about our environment and need you superior folks to come save the rest of us from certain doom.
I'm so glad you smart, caring folks have the answer to our current predicament. Could you also fix the problems with homelessness and government/corporate corruption while you're at it? Come save us! Take everything we have or own, we're too stupid and lazy to deserve it. And because we can't even think for ourselves, we want to be your serfs. Please force us to live right. /S