12 States to ban diesel vehicles

[bvanek]

It's tough to find unbiased information

info today: a thousand lemon-aid stands many selling the same thing (often an ideology represented as a product)

Once you introduce politics in the mix not only does the science get skewed, the cost and logistics gets the "shell game"
Fear is the headline.. it works on people's hearts and minds. It's pretty much a common tactic for attention.

Subsidies for fossil fuels has a historical pay off as the modern world today was built using fossil fuels

we will remain fundamentally dependent on the fossil fuels for quite some time .....a reasonable conclusion if people stop for a moment and realize just how much fossil fuels contribute to our livelihoods.

Think about these mainstay indispensable materials. cement, steel, plastics, and ammonia (fertilizer) Where would be today without these products (would not exist without fossil fuels)

 

[timbatrader]

The USA is the odd one out most of the developed world is heading this way to avoid destruction of the world via climate change The USA will need to fall into line or it will be forced to by the new world powers that will be in charge by then
As of August 2025, at least 27 European Union (EU) countries have legally committed to banning the sale of new petrol and diesel cars by 2035. In addition to the EU, several major non-EU countries—including the United Kingdom, Canada, Japan, South Korea, China (as policy target), and smaller nations such as Iceland and Israel—have set out similar plans or public policy targets for ending the sale of new fossil-fuel vehicles by 2035. Some countries have formalised these plans with legislation, while others are in advanced discussions or have strong government proposals.

Countries with Formal Plans or Active Discussion for 2035 Ban​

• EU27: Austria, Belgium, Bulgaria, Croatia, Cyprus, Czech Republic, Denmark, Estonia, Finland, France, Germany, Greece, Hungary, Ireland, Italy, Latvia, Lithuania, Luxembourg, Malta, Netherlands, Poland, Portugal, Romania, Slovakia, Slovenia, Spain, Sweden
• United Kingdom
• Canada
• Japan (hybrids may still be permitted)
• South Korea
• China (policy target includes Hong Kong and Macau)
• Iceland
• Israel
• Chile
• Thailand (proposal, but not legally binding yet)
• Liechtenstein
• New Zealand (signatory to accelerated adoption; formal ban date is 2040 but engaged in the 2035 conversation)
• Norway (target for 2025, even stronger than 2035)
• Singapore (diesel and petrol bans, final phase out by 2040, with strong actions by 2030 and 2035)
• India (certain states with strong 2035-2040 plans)

Estimates from widely cited sources place the total at more than 30 countries that either have official legislation, binding government intent, or are in advanced public discussions about banning the sale of new petrol and/or diesel vehicles by 2035. Some countries, such as Norway and Singapore, have set even earlier targets, while others like the United States have state-level commitments (e.g. California) but not a national-level ban for 2035.

Key Points​

• All 27 EU countries will fully ban new petrol/diesel car sales by 2035.
• More than 30 countries worldwide (including key non-EU economies) have legislation, official government proposals, or strong national discussions about a 2035 ban on new internal combustion engine (ICE) vehicles.
• Scope and details may differ, for instance, some allow hybrids, while others enforce stricter criteria.
• Several other countries have 2040 or later as their official ban year, but are signatories to international declarations aiming for the "as close as possible to 2035" goal.

This number may continue to increase as climate policies evolve and other countries formal

 

[Dftodd]

They are phasing out ice generators…

Maybe in Cali. But go into the local sams club after a natural disaster or snow storm.

They will have 4 pallets packed by the door with ice generators loaded up on them.

 

[Hay Dude]

The USA is the odd one out most of the developed world is heading this way to avoid destruction of the world via climate change The USA will need to fall into line or it will be forced to by the new world powers that will be in charge by then
As of August 2025, at least 27 European Union (EU) countries have legally committed to banning the sale of new petrol and diesel cars by 2035. In addition to the EU, several major non-EU countries—including the United Kingdom, Canada, Japan, South Korea, China (as policy target), and smaller nations such as Iceland and Israel—have set out similar plans or public policy targets for ending the sale of new fossil-fuel vehicles by 2035. Some countries have formalised these plans with legislation, while others are in advanced discussions or have strong government proposals.

Countries with Formal Plans or Active Discussion for 2035 Ban​

• EU27: Austria, Belgium, Bulgaria, Croatia, Cyprus, Czech Republic, Denmark, Estonia, Finland, France, Germany, Greece, Hungary, Ireland, Italy, Latvia, Lithuania, Luxembourg, Malta, Netherlands, Poland, Portugal, Romania, Slovakia, Slovenia, Spain, Sweden
• United Kingdom
• Canada
• Japan (hybrids may still be permitted)
• South Korea
• China (policy target includes Hong Kong and Macau)
• Iceland
• Israel
• Chile
• Thailand (proposal, but not legally binding yet)
• Liechtenstein
• New Zealand (signatory to accelerated adoption; formal ban date is 2040 but engaged in the 2035 conversation)
• Norway (target for 2025, even stronger than 2035)
• Singapore (diesel and petrol bans, final phase out by 2040, with strong actions by 2030 and 2035)
• India (certain states with strong 2035-2040 plans)

Estimates from widely cited sources place the total at more than 30 countries that either have official legislation, binding government intent, or are in advanced public discussions about banning the sale of new petrol and/or diesel vehicles by 2035. Some countries, such as Norway and Singapore, have set even earlier targets, while others like the United States have state-level commitments (e.g. California) but not a national-level ban for 2035.

Key Points​

• All 27 EU countries will fully ban new petrol/diesel car sales by 2035.
• More than 30 countries worldwide (including key non-EU economies) have legislation, official government proposals, or strong national discussions about a 2035 ban on new internal combustion engine (ICE) vehicles.
• Scope and details may differ, for instance, some allow hybrids, while others enforce stricter criteria.
• Several other countries have 2040 or later as their official ban year, but are signatories to international declarations aiming for the "as close as possible to 2035" goal.

This number may continue to increase as climate policies evolve and other countries formal

 

[joea99]

Are you frickin kidding me?!?!
Ummm, do you think tools were a bit less capable then?

Like railroads in 1867 were built by men with picks & shovels. Today’s earthmoving equipment, trucks, excavators, etc. is 100 times faster!

As if any of that relates to what I said. The speed at which something COULD be done means nothing when there are things in the way of doing it. To turn that around, if today's earth moving equipment, etc, where let loose with nothing in the way, maybe those RR's would be done in a couple months, instead of years and with far less loss of life and limb.

Come on! LOL That was the biggest boondoggle in California’s history!

Did you just spin around, lean forward and put your arms out palms up? Just like the old vaudeville actors did? Means nothing.

 

[Jstpssng]

Naah you cant, the European Union bans ICE in 2035 too, so you guys ought to grow our food

There's plenty of space in Africa and South America. Russia will be looking to make some money soon.

Now they just need to work on the "magic delivery" system.

 

[bvanek]

The USA is the odd one out most of the developed world is heading this way to avoid destruction of the world via climate change The USA will need to fall into line or it will be forced to by the new world powers that will be in charge by then

sounds like a threat. where did you get this copy and paste? notes from the virtue signalling World Economic Forum? We're always the odd one out, that's what makes us the best nation in the world.
China?, Now there's some real genuine commitment.....a government that unleashed a bio weapon on the world and killed millions.

 

[Paystar]

Would you be okay with taxes on the gas powered tools that funded subsidies on the battery tools? Meaning if price was the same would you mind using battery or is that added weight a deal breaker?

Guess I'm the odd man out here. I LIKE internal combustion. I like the smell, the sound, the feel of them. That's why I will never go EV. Those are just appliances to me. I don't care what I have to pay for fuel.
I'm also the the guy that still uses hand tools such as wrenches and ratchets.....even changing tires on my big rigs when I had them. I never use power tools or impacts.
My impact is a breaker bar with a 4 foot pipe on it, LOL

 

[Paystar]

Want to add to my post....I'm not calling anyone's EV an appliance. Just saying people like me have a passion for internal combustion and machinery and stuff like that. We love being able to work on our own stuff and modify it.
Whereas lots of people don't care about that, they only want transportation.

And I'm terribly old school and I hate change.....any kind of change.

 

[Too many Kubotas]

• All 27 EU countries will fully ban new petrol/diesel car sales by 2035.

Okay, that's funny. Beyond unrealistic, which will make it interesting to watch it (not) happen.

Or, Europe might become a second Cuba and keep the older usable vehicles going for several decades if the EU is indeed idiotic enough to stick with their pipe dreams.