Tires new old stock

[tslbogger]

Hi
I want to buy a new set of wheels and tires for my 2006 Case DX26.

I will let the old set chained for the winter and use the new set in summer.

A dealer have a set of take off R4 Titan track loader from a DX24 and the date stamp seem to be 2004.

On the pictures, no checking is visible on the tires, and wheels have a little bit of surface rust (almost nothing).

Don't know how they were stored during this time.

Is it a good idea to buy old tires ?

On my tractor, the fronts one are checked but the rears are not checked.

 

[Too many Kubotas]

Bias tires don't age the same as radials. If kept out of the sun they can last practically forever, but they do get more brittle over time.

 

[yanmars]

I have original tires on my Yanmar from 1982. Heavily weather checked but still hold air and work. I do no high speed operation so they work. When they fail I will get new. The tractor is out side most of the time the last several years.

 

[oosik]

Highway tires have a DOT time stamp on them. EX- DOT. 2624. Manufactured the 26th week of 2024. Don't know about AG tires. Worth checking. This time stamp is somewhere on the tire - next to tire/rim interface.

 

[tslbogger]

Date stamp seem to be 2004.

I think I will buy them, because for the price of a new set of wheels, I will get a set of wheels and a set of free tires.

Should do the move this week. Spring is coming.

 

[oosik]

I certainly would not worry regarding agri tires. You should be able to see anything that will become a problem on an agri tire. Besides - the tires will never be used at highway speed.

 

[JasperFrank]

Bought a low mile car with 9 year old tires. Oh man, every single one them shredded, one by one, on the freeway.

 

[Hay Dude]

Unless badly weather checked, they should be ok. I take it they are inflated on the rims and you can see the sidewalls and tread with air in them?

AG tires never get hot enough to blow out violently like on a road vehicle.

That’s not to say they won’t fail. I had a “zipper wall” tire failure where the whole side of the tire unexpectedly blew off. That tire was only a few years old. It was a defective tire from day 1 and gave out.

 

[Too many Kubotas]

Bought a low mile car with 9 year old tires. Oh man, every single one them shredded, one by one, on the freeway.

That car most likely had radials. That's entirely different from bias ply tires, which are already in the shape they want to be, more like an inner tube.

A radial is forced into an unnatural shape, with a flatter tread area. That's good for lower rolling resistance and less heat buildup, but not for the life expectancy of the tire.

When the adhesives eventually lose the fight, there goes the radial.

 

[RayIN]

Bought a low mile car with 9 year old tires. Oh man, every single one them shredded, one by one, on the freeway.

Yup, that happens with high-speed tires, low speed, nope. I finally had to replace my R1 tires in 2023, they can new on the tractor in 1973. The tires were still OK but the rims rusted out, so sprang for new rims and tires at the same time. Those 50 yrs old tires had approx. 4K hrs. on them.

To tslblogger, the only thing I don't like about those tires are R4 design, not good for dirt work IMO. Also, as tires age they become harder, which might be ok for work on concrete/blacktop, but will have little "give" in dirt.

 

[RayIN]

That car most likely had radials. That's entirely different from bias ply tires, which are already in the shape they want to be, more like an inner tube.

A radial is forced into an unnatural shape, with a flatter tread area. That's good for lower rolling resistance and less heat buildup, but not for the life expectancy of the tire.

When the adhesives eventually lose the fight, there goes the radial.

Today, radial tire mfgrs. recommend replacement at 6 yrs. Oddly enough that is the normal warranty period for Michelin truck tires.

 

[Too many Kubotas]

If you like taking chances, Tire Rack claims that a properly stored tire doesn't start aging until after four years, so you should be just fine up to 10 years.

Ironically, and logically, their parent company (Discount Tire) won't service tires that are six years old.

 

[1Mech]

The tires on my old International B414 look pretty rough, but they still hold air and grip the dirt!
No idea how old they are.

 

[ultrarunner]

I have more tire problems with modern tires.

I’ve never had a tire age defect with any of my tube tires… my oldest I bought from Montgomery Wards 50 years ago… mostly Model T and Model A

 

[tslbogger]

To tslblogger, the only thing I don't like about those tires are R4 design, not good for dirt work IMO. Also, as tires age they become harder, which might be ok for work on concrete/blacktop, but will have little "give" in dirt.

R1 will have better traction for dirt work but most of the time I use this tractor on turf. R1 on turf would leave some thread marks.
R4 seem to be a good all around choice for my use.
For the winter, chains solve traction problems.