Tractors and wood! Show your pics

[Dawg in Fl]

Firewood & chickens cost less than a therapist.

Very astute observation!

 

[shooterdon]

I tried to buy a new wood stove for a "single mom needs help" situation on another internet forum, a few years back. I was just the guy with the funds, I think some other more local members were available to help her with the installation, and she had a source for firewood.

But at least for me, it was a lesson in why some people routinely find themselves in these situations. Between not responding, throwing up unnecessary obstacles, and changing her mind a dozen times, she made it impossible for us to actually follow through with the help she had requested.

I wouldn't have cared so much, except for the fact that she had a young kid also living with her in a house with no heat, in Canada. I knew some kids who lived a winter or two in a house with no heat or hot water down here in PA, and even that was rough.

Some "single moms" are single for good reason.

And some people are poor for good reason.

We don't them any favors by helping them out. They have no reason to change their life choices if the "safety net" gets bigger and bigger.

I see that a lot with Christians...BTW I am a Christian. But there is a huge push to help others and many of those they help do not need or deserve help. But it makes them feel good to do "good deeds".

I no longer give groceries or money to our church food bank. I know it is abused by most of the people they "help". Does a guy with two Corvettes, a new Jeep and a new Roxur need help form the food bank? The same guy put up a large pole barn and an RV storage "carport" last year. Not the only case I am aware of.

 

[WinterDeere]

I continue to give to food banks, etc, knowing it’s doing some good for many, even if there are some abusers. But on your other point:

….some people are poor for good reason.

I’d say that’s an understatement. In this land of nearly-infinite opportunity, excluding uncommon medical or other rare obstacles, you’re only poor by choice. The greatest thing about the US, is that nearly anyone can find a way to dig themselves out of that hole, should they choose to apply themselves accordingly.

To anyone who would argue this point, I’d suggest they do a little traveling in less fortunate parts of the world, and then come back here to tell me how rough they have it here.

 

[Gordon Gould]

Pulling out some small Hard Maple in a thinning/TSI operation.
It was a little cold this morning but the going was perfect.

gg

 

[two_bit_score]

We cut down an oak tree on a place we have in town. Nice tree. But we needed it down. Thought it might be worth while to split and stack some wood by the curb for $X a stack just to see what would happen. Would it be stolen overnight? Not that we cared. Would someone or a few actually buy a stack or two? Since my brother lives on the place and is there all the time we expected to find out pretty soon what would happen.

Nothing sold. Too much 'free wood' available in the area or they will grab a smaller stack for 3X the price at Walmart, wrapped in plastic, while they are there. I wonder if SNAP cards pay for those plastic bags of wood?

Interesting experiment.

 

[shooterdon]

We cut down an oak tree on a place we have in town. Nice tree. But we needed it down. Thought it might be worth while to split and stack some wood by the curb for $X a stack just to see what would happen. Would it be stolen overnight? Not that we cared. Would someone or a few actually buy a stack or two? Since my brother lives on the place and is there all the time we expected to find out pretty soon what would happen.

Nothing sold. Too much 'free wood' available in the area or they will grab a smaller stack for 3X the price at Walmart, wrapped in plastic, while they are there. I wonder if SNAP cards pay for those plastic bags of wood?

Interesting experiment.

I doubt most SNAPers have any interest in firewood unless you deliver it to them, stack it in their fireplace and start the fire for them. Do you expect them to put dirty firewood in their nice car?

Call me Mr. Jaded. There was a lady of color in front of me using a SNAP card. She had "those kind of nails" you expect of a certain woman...if you know what I mean...not cheap. When I went out, she was loading her stuff into a Cadillac. I can't see her ruining those pretty nails handling firewood.

 

[dodge man]

I think snap limits on what it covers. Firewood probably is not on the list.

 

[Jstpssng]

I think snap limits on what it covers. Firewood probably is not on the list.

No, but generally people who are on SNAP also qualify for other assistance.

 

[Green Acres Homestead]

Logging winch some smaller firewood over the bank and down one other tree hung in tree.

Firewood with a Kubota tractor and a logging winch

 

[goeduck]

I no longer give groceries or money to our church food bank. I know it is abused by most of the people they "help". Does a guy with two Corvettes, a new Jeep and a new Roxur need help form the food bank? The same guy put up a large pole barn and an RV storage "carport" last year. Not the only case I am aware of.

I regularly give to the local food banks. Out of my garden this year alone I donated 1901 lbs., which is a lot of produce if you are growing it. My 22 year old "if you can get it running you can have it" GMC is almost always the worst vehicle in the lot when I donate. When I showed up once at a food bank I had not donated to before, I was all dirty from working in the garden, old torn outside clothes, etc. they met me by my truck and asked if my need for food was an emergency. In my best Jed Clampit impersonation, I said "I don't reckon I need any food, I just need to know where your delivery door is". A lady that looked like Mrs. Drysdale could not talk for about 20 seconds. I enjoy donating, some very nice people with good intentions work in food banks. I do agree that they need to screen who gets food better.