New 25hp tractor purchase

[JeepHead]

Now tell AI something else was wrong and see if it corrects the real information to fix the non-error

I went small SCUT to get between buildings and trees, so use case is important.
The CK2620 looks like a lot more capability for a small size change, if it can fit where the OP needs it, seems a logical upgrade and maybe negotiate price to get it closer to CX cost?

going back to the tractor discussion. Something else was incorrect in your response. Can you locate what it is?






You are challenging me to be absolutely precise, and I appreciate that. You were right about the initial displacement error, and it seems another subtle inconsistency may be present due to the way Kioti markets their tractors across different model years and regions.
After re-examining the specifications, here is the most probable error in the previous, corrected table:

The Most Likely Error: CK2620 Loader Lift Capacity​

In the last two responses, I listed the CK2620's loader lift capacity as 1,835 lbs, linking it to the KL4030 loader model.
The Correction:
The Kioti CK2620 is typically paired with the KL2620 Front End Loader. The loader with the lift capacity of 1,835 lbs at the pivot pin is actually the KL4030 (or similar loader) from the higher horsepower CK3520/CK4020 series.
The correct, specified lift capacity for the CK2620 paired with its dedicated KL2620 loader (or the predecessor KL2610 model) is significantly lower.

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corrected and precise comparison​

Specification	Kioti CX2510	Kioti CK2620	Key Correction & Difference
Engine Displacement (cc)	1,647 cc (87 cu. in.)	1,647 cc (100.5 cu. in.)	CX2510 uses a smaller version of the 1,647 cc block. My attempt to list two different cc numbers was technically correct, but confusing. Both use the 1,647 cc block, but the CK2620 is built on the larger 100.5 cu. in. chassis which allows for the greater power takeoff.
Loader Model	KL2510	KL2620	The CK2620 uses a different, stronger loader model.
Loader Lift Capacity (to full height at pivot pin)	1,092 lbs	~1,350 lbs	This is the corrected fact. The 1,835 lbs figure belongs to a heavier-duty loader. The correct capacity for the KL2620 is generally listed around 1,350 lbs. The CK2620 still has significantly more lift capacity than the CX2510 (approx. 250 lbs more), but the difference is not as dramatic as the 1,835 lbs figure suggested.
3-Point Lift Capacity (24" behind hitch)	1,203 lbs	1,631 lbs	Remains the biggest difference. This difference is correct and is the main reason the CK2620 is better for hobby farming implements.

 

[paulsharvey]

Nice — that changes the priorities. Since you already have a full-size commercial backhoe for heavy earthwork, the tractor becomes the everyday workhorse: mowing, loader light-to-medium material handling, towing, 3-point implements (brush hog, box blade, post-hole digger), trailer maneuvering, and getting into tight places. Below I’ll highlight how that reality shifts the choice between the Kioti CK2620 and Kioti CX2510, and give a clear recommendation.

What matters now (ranked)

1. Maneuverability / tight-area access


2. Ease of trailering / transport


3. Loader performance for light–medium loads (breakout, reach, stability)


4. 3-point lift capacity and PTO usefulness for implements


5. Weight / ground compaction (lighter may be preferable on pasture/yard)


6. Comfort/options (ROPS vs cab) and dealer support



Short answer / recommendation

Because heavy digging is already covered, the CX2510 is the better fit for most small hobby-farm jobs — it’s more compact, easier to trailer, gentler on turf, and still has the hydraulic/PTO capability to run mowers, post-hole diggers, seeders, and light loader work. Choose the CK2620 only if you expect frequent heavier loader duty (moving full pallets, big boulders, very heavy pallets of block/soil) where the extra lift capacity and stability matter.

Side-by-side — key points (focused on your use)

Maneuverability & footprint

CX2510: Shorter wheelbase, smaller turning circle — easier in tight barns, paddocks, and fence lines. Better if access is narrow or you trailer often.

CK2620: Longer wheelbase and heavier — more stable but harder to navigate tight spots and slightly harder to trailer.


Loader & everyday lifting

CX2510: Good loader performance for wheelbarrow-loads, manure, bedding, light gravel, moving hay bales (small rounds or small square), pallet work that isn’t ultra-heavy.

CK2620: Higher lift and stability — noticeably better if you plan to frequently carry heavier loader loads (full big pallets, large rock buckets). Since you’ve removed heavy backhoe work from the equation, that advantage is less critical unless loader lifting is often heavy.


3-point hitch & PTO

Both tractors are in the same ~25 hp class and will run a belly mower, brush hog, PTO seeders, small- to mid-size box blades, finish mowers, and post hole augers. The CK has a higher rear lift rating which helps with heavier 3-point implements; the CX’s rating is still ample for typical hobby-farm gear.


Transport & trailering

CX2510 wins — lighter, shorter, easier to haul on a trailer and to store in a standard shed. If you move the tractor between sites frequently, this matters.


Ground impact / pastures

CX2510: Lighter options reduce turf compaction and damage to fields.

CK2620: Heavier, so greater compaction risk in wet/soft fields.


Comfort & options

Both offer ROPS; both can be found with a cab option depending on dealer/packages. If you use it daily year-round and want weather comfort, pick the configuration with the cab you want regardless of model.


Cost & resale

CX variants are often slightly less expensive to buy and cheaper to operate/transport; resale is typically good for both since Kioti is popular in the small-farm market.


Practical scenarios to help decide

If your day-to-day is mowing large acreage, pulling a trailer, light loader work (manure, compost, small bales), fence work, and occasional 3-point use → CX2510.

If you regularly use the loader for heavy material handling (lots of full-pallet moves, heavy stone or big compost turns) and you want the tractor itself to carry heavier loads without feeling “tippy” → CK2620.


Suggested configuration for a hobby farmer (given you already have a big backhoe)

Mid-frame front loader with a general-purpose bucket (and optional pallet forks / grapple if you move odd materials)

3-point mid/rear implement set: 60–72" rotary cutter (if you mow pasture), 3-point post-hole auger, box blade

Turf or ag tires depending on pasture vs tillage needs (turf for less compaction on lawn/yard, ag for traction in fields)

Consider cab if you want winter comfort or heavy seasonal use



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If you want, I can:

make a one-page spec summary (side-by-side) listing the CX2510 and CK2620 specs that matter for your use (PTO, 3-point lift, loader breakout,

 

[kenmbz]

going back to the tractor discussion. Something else was incorrect in your response. Can you locate what it is?






You are challenging me to be absolutely precise, and I appreciate that. You were right about the initial displacement error, and it seems another subtle inconsistency may be present due to the way Kioti markets their tractors across different model years and regions.
After re-examining the specifications, here is the most probable error in the previous, corrected table:

The Most Likely Error: CK2620 Loader Lift Capacity​

In the last two responses, I listed the CK2620's loader lift capacity as 1,835 lbs, linking it to the KL4030 loader model.
The Correction:
The Kioti CK2620 is typically paired with the KL2620 Front End Loader. The loader with the lift capacity of 1,835 lbs at the pivot pin is actually the KL4030 (or similar loader) from the higher horsepower CK3520/CK4020 series.
The correct, specified lift capacity for the CK2620 paired with its dedicated KL2620 loader (or the predecessor KL2610 model) is significantly lower.

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corrected and precise comparison​

Specification	Kioti CX2510	Kioti CK2620	Key Correction & Difference
Engine Displacement (cc)	1,647 cc (87 cu. in.)	1,647 cc (100.5 cu. in.)	CX2510 uses a smaller version of the 1,647 cc block. My attempt to list two different cc numbers was technically correct, but confusing. Both use the 1,647 cc block, but the CK2620 is built on the larger 100.5 cu. in. chassis which allows for the greater power takeoff.
Loader Model	KL2510	KL2620	The CK2620 uses a different, stronger loader model.
Loader Lift Capacity (to full height at pivot pin)	1,092 lbs	~1,350 lbs	This is the corrected fact. The 1,835 lbs figure belongs to a heavier-duty loader. The correct capacity for the KL2620 is generally listed around 1,350 lbs. The CK2620 still has significantly more lift capacity than the CX2510 (approx. 250 lbs more), but the difference is not as dramatic as the 1,835 lbs figure suggested.
3-Point Lift Capacity (24" behind hitch)	1,203 lbs	1,631 lbs	Remains the biggest difference. This difference is correct and is the main reason the CK2620 is better for hobby farming implements.

I was joking that the AI might take corrections to correct data too.
The table got the point across quite clearly though on the differences.

 

[paulsharvey]

Got to feed the beast... Chat needs to know our OP has a full sized back hoe available for heavy earth work and lifting

 

[JeepHead]

I think a key component for me would be the engine displacement. Having a larger engine that would work less for the same HP than a smaller engine working harder. Not to mention that larger displacement engine would have much more torque.

 

[JeepHead]

I asked it to fine tune to detailed specification differences.

Kioti CX2510 vs. CK2620: Extremely Precise Technical Specifications​

Specification	Kioti CX2510 HST	Kioti CK2620 HST	Significance for Hobby Farm Use
Engine Model	3A139LWL	3A165LWH-U	Different Engine Blocks: The CK2620 uses the larger physical block that is detuned to 24.5 HP, contributing to its heavier frame.
Engine Displacement	87.2 cu. in. ($1,429 \text{ cm}^3$)	100.5 cu. in. ($1,647 \text{ cm}^3$)	The CK2620 has a 15% larger engine displacement. This translates to better low-RPM torque for tough pulls and better engine longevity.
PTO Horsepower (Rated)	18.8 HP (14.0 kW)	21.5 HP (16.0 kW)	2.7 HP difference at the implement. This is crucial for running demanding implements like rototillers or chippers without bogging down.
Operating Weight (ROPS, No Loader)	2,308 lbs (1,047 kg)	2,756 lbs (1,250 kg)	448 lbs Heavier. The CK2620’s heavier chassis provides superior stability and traction for all ground work and loader operation.
Wheelbase	59.8 in. (1,520 mm)	65.7 in. (1,670 mm)	5.9 inches Longer. Better ride quality and stability, especially when traveling with a load on the loader.
Ground Clearance	13.4 in. (340 mm)	13.4 in. (340 mm)	Identical. Both offer the same clearance for navigating uneven terrain or high ground cover.
Minimum Turning Radius (With Brake)	7.9 ft (2.4 m)	8.0 ft (2.44 m)	CX2510 is marginally tighter. The difference is negligible in real-world use, and the CK is extremely maneuverable for its size.
Hydraulic Pump Flow (Total)	11.3 GPM (42.8 L/min)	11.7 GPM (44.3 L/min)	CK2620 has 0.4 GPM higher flow. Means slightly faster and more responsive loader and 3-point hitch movement.
3-Point Lift Capacity (24 in. behind hitch)	1,203 lbs (546 kg)	1,631 lbs (740 kg)	428 lbs Higher. This is the most significant operational advantage of the CK2620 for a hobby farm, allowing much heavier implements.
Loader Lift Capacity (KL2510 vs. KL2620, at pivot)	1,092 lbs (495 kg)	1,357 lbs (615 kg)	265 lbs Higher. Correcting the previous error: the KL2620 lift capacity is substantial and gives the CK2620 superior material handling capability.
Transmission Type	2-Range HST	3-Range HST	CK2620 offers Low/Mid/High. The extra mid-range provides a greater selection of ideal ground speeds for specific tasks (e.g., tilling, mowing).

 

[Rdrcr]

Maybe that was the manual SS version?

I've been quoted as low as $18,241 OTD for a new 2025 CK2620 HST. I've been quoted as low as $18,605 OTD for a new Bobcat CT2025 HST.

Mike

 

[paulsharvey]

There's a B2601 with loader and turf tires in the Weeks Novemeber Ocala equipment auction, only 49 hours, if you wanted to go a different route. Now, im guessing it sells for $14k, plus auction fees, and sales tax. If you buy from a dealer, no sales tax; auction, unless you have a current sales tax exemption cert, you will, so thats a 7% swimg; plus 10% buyers premium, plus 3% card fee if thats how you do the transaction. So, bid accordingly. I dont know that if it goes for $14,000 i would be a customer for $16,500; but if it goes ar $12.5k, with a out the door of around $14,750; that might just be a great deal.

For anyone offended by my math, im accounting for it being slightly used, and not adding Kubota points to it; meaning, if a new Kioti Cx2510 is $18.5k; i would not consider a used Kubota B2601 a deal at $16.5k

 

[helmdog25]

Here's two videos I watched comparing the CX & CK, the second also included the B2601 mentioned above. They are what pushed me to the CK.

I thought both were presented well.

I'm still considering the RK25, lighter than the Kiotis, but sized right between. It's also within my original desired budget. Brand-wise, maybe not as desirable, but that isn't one of my primary concerns. Plus the RK location is very convenient for me.

Paul, funny you mention auction, I just spent a bunch of money at RB this morning, but I did manage to get several attachments, including a couple grapples, rock bucket, mini vibratory roller, vibrating screening bucket and a mini SS auger head. Now I just need the tractor to go with them

 

[dodge man]

If one of those Kiotis has bigger tires choose it. I originally had a BX Kubota, great little tractor but the small tires made for a bad ride.