Compacting gravel driveway

/ Compacting gravel driveway #61  
I'm getting crashed stone delivered and spread on my old gravel driveway. I will crown and level it. Then a guy with vibrating roller will come over and compact it. Would it be a good idea to have stone dust spread on top before compacting? Please share your experience/ideas/suggestions...
Here they offer Washed Stone or Crusher Run. The latter has quite a bit of stone dust in the mix. We've only had it tailgate spread - then I'd go over it bit with the 4' box blade (all I had).

If I had a tank I could fill with water . . . I might try dampening the stuff.

No mention, I noticed, as to the preferred size of rock for such 'reconditioning' projects.
 
/ Compacting gravel driveway #62  
You need to add water on the job if possible because as you work the material you also lose water, if it gets too dry then it segregates. You need a uniform mix for best strength of the finished product. Smooth steel drum vibratory roller is best to obtain an even surface then if you want the rubber tire roller will kneed the top together. The rock we used came from three different quarries, but one quarry was a preferred by me. We usually had weights of 135 to 150 PCF, low weights indicate a softer lighter stone. There are numerous specifications like rattler test that can be specified. I was in the business 40 years.
 
/ Compacting gravel driveway #65  
If you're taking time to spread crushed stone, and I'm assuming it's clean/washed stone, compact it, then ADD stone dust, you are simply trying to make "crusher run" topping. That twice the work, and twice the delivery and spreading costs.
As you know, stone/crushed rock has 999 different names, numbers, sizes, colors, preferences from region to region, and supply yard to yard, quarry to quarry. It's confusing.
I put down generically called "3/4-minus." It's roughly 3/4" down to dust, with a few 1" stones intermixed
..not perfect screening. It spread easily, packs super well, and isn't really too muddy or dusty in rain or dry times.

I topcoated with what's called #10 block fill...it's like little sharp edged washed stones, 3/8" and smaller, but no dust. It packs crazy hard and really keeps dust and mud down, and doesn't really spin out if driving on it. Easy to rake or smooth if some truck happens to slip a wheel.

Make it easy and efficient...loosen up that base you have now with scarifiers...no sense in putting avocado oil on Teflon and expecting it to stick.
 
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/ Compacting gravel driveway #66  
Yeah I do wish the names were standard across the region. Here in Kentucky it's called "dense grade". It's a mixture of stone from pea gravel size up to nearly #57 size, with power mixed in. If it's wet, it'll compact very well and it's almost like driving on pavement.

However, as soon as the weather turns very dry it'll go to dust and fly around a LOT and potholes pop up quickly. That's been a big problem here this year due to moderate drought conditions.

Generally about 24 hours after a rain I can run over the road with my land plane and it'll smooth everything back out and make it nice to drive on again for several weeks.
 
/ Compacting gravel driveway #67  
In our area of Minnesota you can find, if you ask, crushed concrete with a percentage of crushed asphalt blended together. First time I used it I was very happy with just grading and a sand filled roller (980lb). Fairly high traffic as my neighbor uses part as he has an easement. I keep a small pile to touch up puddles that lead to bigger puddles but in my opinion much better compaction and seems to bind and hold.
 
/ Compacting gravel driveway #68  
I am assuming this is limestone, not crushed gravel. Crushed limestone packs much better if you have an option of material. One thing to note, the more you grade it the more the fines will go to the bottom.

Vibratory rollers are fine & dandy, bit if you're on a budget rolling with a rubber tired vehicle does a good job too. Whether a tractor with a heavy implement on back or even a car truck making numerous passes. It will get it locked in place, and when going in and out the drive, just don't drive in the same track every time for a while until compacted.
 
/ Compacting gravel driveway #69  
I'm getting crashed stone delivered and spread on my old gravel driveway. I will crown and level it. Then a guy with vibrating roller will come over and compact it. Would it be a good idea to have stone dust spread on top before compacting? Please share your experience/ideas/suggestions...
I always used road base it seems to hold better and packs like concrete. Just wet the ground and wet the road base when packing.
 
/ Compacting gravel driveway #70  
I'm getting crashed stone delivered and spread on my old gravel driveway. I will crown and level it. Then a guy with vibrating roller will come over and compact it. Would it be a good idea to have stone dust spread on top before compacting? Please share your experience/ideas/suggestions...
Yes, definitely put dust on it and wet it. The secret is to not have any gaps in the stone for ice or water to permeate. Tell them you want road base with fines. You will be good.
 
/ Compacting gravel driveway #71  
I lay a windrow of blue shale down one side and a windrow of river gravel down the other side. As I work and shape the drive it blends together and sets up like concrete. The last time my main drive was done I was 14. I am now 68 and shape and smooth it each spring to keep it up. It never gets more than an imprint of a tire no matter how much rain we get.
 
/ Compacting gravel driveway #72  
I'm getting crashed stone delivered and spread on my old gravel driveway. I will crown and level it. Then a guy with vibrating roller will come over and compact it. Would it be a good idea to have stone dust spread on top before compacting? Please share your experience/ideas/suggestions...
Ive never done it but around here u can get ash fines from the beet factory hve heard it really packs down , might try a semi load
 
/ Compacting gravel driveway #73  
I'm getting crashed stone delivered and spread on my old gravel driveway. I will crown and level it. Then a guy with vibrating roller will come over and compact it. Would it be a good idea to have stone dust spread on top before compacting? Please share your experience/ideas/suggestions...
It would be a waste of money. In a steady or heavy rain, the stone dust will just wash away. What grade of gravel are you getting? If you're getting 57's, what I do is put fill dirt on top of the stone before you grade and crown it, and that material will mix in with the stone and it will work like a binder. We have clay where I live and that is like glue when mixed with 57's. Then you just grade, angle back to the center to form the drainage slope and then back down the center with your scraper blade gently knocking the center back and that will form a natural curved crown. Rolling that with a tire roller will work great to pack it and jam the dirt in with the stone. Some of the dirt will run off the top with rain, but underneath it will pack well. I used crusher run on our 1/2 mile long driveway using that method back in 1999, and then I graded it and crowned it. The dirt from the sides of the road acted as a binder when I angled the crusher run back to the center and then when I backed down using my blade, I got the crown I wanted and I had the bucket down as well that smoothed it. I never had to pack it, since the bucket did some packing, and I've just been regrading my road since 1999. I have not purchased any more gravel since that time, although I'm finally getting around to need it. It took 8 loads of crusher run to do the top finish back then, but I also prepared the base by grading and putting a slight crown on it first. I also removed any large stone that worked their way up during the prep. The driveway came out so smooth and solid, I could drive 50 mph on the road.
 
/ Compacting gravel driveway #74  
Wet gravel is heavy. Gravel is also delivered by ton weight. When you buy wet gravel you are also buying water at the price charged for gravel.
That’s weird. Here in Western Washington we pay by the yard!
 
/ Compacting gravel driveway #75  
I'm getting crashed stone delivered and spread on my old gravel driveway. I will crown and level it. Then a guy with vibrating roller will come over and compact it. Would it be a good idea to have stone dust spread on top before compacting? Please share your experience/ideas/suggestions...
I'm getting crashed stone delivered and spread on my old gravel driveway. I will crown and level it. Then a guy with vibrating roller will come over and compact it. Would it be a good idea to have stone dust spread on top before compacting? Please share your experience/ideas/suggestions...
We used to use #2 crusher run for the base for all our parking lots and roads we built when is was working.
This was always specified by the engineer. This has fine dust in it from being run through the crusher. Wet it down good with a hose before compaction ! I would be careful with the vibrating roller. I assume it would be a 10 ton.
 
/ Compacting gravel driveway #77  
I lay a windrow of blue shale down one side and a windrow of river gravel down the other side. As I work and shape the drive it blends together and sets up like concrete. The last time my main drive was done I was 14. I am now 68 and shape and smooth it each spring to keep it up. It never gets more than an imprint of a tire no matter how much rain we get.
The shale packs like concrete, but we can't buy it where I live. I don't use river stone, because rounded stone tends work against packing. I've seen a lot of people using shale in the Northeast. They also have natural gravel pits up there from the glaciers, so they don't use crushed stone since it's so expensive. You only tend to fine crushed stone and crusher run used for highway projects.
 
/ Compacting gravel driveway #78  
Probably because it rains so much in Washington State it would be hard to get dry gravel. :D
I let people believe that and while it is partially true I believe it rains just enough!
 
/ Compacting gravel driveway #79  
I let people believe that and while it is partially true I believe it rains just enough!
I had a Nephew that lived in Seattle. He loved it. To many people and people noise for me. I really liked the Public Transportation system though.
 
/ Compacting gravel driveway #80  
The shale packs like concrete, but we can't buy it where I live. I don't use river stone, because rounded stone tends work against packing. I've seen a lot of people using shale in the Northeast. They also have natural gravel pits up there from the glaciers, so they don't use crushed stone since it's so expensive. You only tend to fine crushed stone and crusher run used for highway projects.
I'm blessed with a 3200 acre pasture that is full of it. Trade shale for sand with my river rat neighbor. It makes a durn hard drive that is still workable.
 

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