PT filters

[joshlee]

There’s definitely something to be said about that test you ran on your intake. That’s very interesting, and I’ll keep that in mind.

From what I’ve seen by pictures, the air filter on the 1430 is not as complex as for the 1445 and 1460. One of the reasons why I hate paying such a high price for this little round air filter. Maybe what I should do is go to Napa and see if they can find me one that is the same size.

I’m not sure what the right thing is to do, but whenever I Bushhog, Bushhog about probably 10 acres once a year, and the air filter becomes so dirty. I’m diligent about taking a vacuum over the pre-cleaner after mowing the grass a few times, etc, but after I bush hog, it is just so full. Whenever I do the test by holding it up to the sky, the Used air filter does not let the light come in through anywhere near as much as a new air filter when I hold it up right next to it. I can run my tractor all year and just vacuum cleaning the prefilter seems to keep my air filter in good shape, but after I bush hog, I just replace the filter.
Again, I’m not totally sure I’m doing the right thing, but that’s just what I do.

 

[2manyrocks]

One of the disadvantages of having a front mount mower is that the debris and dust from mowing is up in the air for the air filter to suck in as the PT travels forward.

 

[m5040]

You should be able to find a generic filter. In the old days you could just bring your used filter into the parts store and they would measure it up and give you options or a direct replacement.

When you ID a suitable replacement, buy a quality brand like Fleetguard etc.

I think PT took off the good cyclonic filter housing due to the confined engine compartment.

 

[ponytug]

Yes, mowing is what really clogs my filter as well, although chipping wood, and rototilling are close, at least for me. I don't think having a front mounted implement is really the issue, as it is about wind direction relative to the tractor.

I am sure vacuuming the filter off is pretty effective. Deutz's bottom line is intake vacuum, which, even after heavy, dusty mowing for me has never been an issue.

Have you looked closely at your filter for numbers, usually stamped or embossed on one end somewhere?

All the best,

Peter

 

[MossRoad]

When I had my IH2500b tractor loader I'd have to stop about every half an hour to clean out the radiator and hydraulic cooler from pollen, seeds, chaff, etc.., as well as the engine air filter about every day.

My little 2001 PT425 is only on its 2nd air filter. I just clean out and oil the foam ring that wraps the air filter element as needed. Maybe a couple times per year at most. The filter element gets tapped out once a year or so and put back in.

 

[joshlee]

Yes, mowing is what really clogs my filter as well, although chipping wood, and rototilling are close, at least for me. I don't think having a front mounted implement is really the issue, as it is about wind direction relative to the tractor.

I am sure vacuuming the filter off is pretty effective. Deutz's bottom line is intake vacuum, which, even after heavy, dusty mowing for me has never been an issue.

Have you looked closely at your filter for numbers, usually stamped or embossed on one end somewhere?

All the best,

Peter

 

[joshlee]

Yes, there are 3 letters stamped on these new air filters, and when I have time I’m going to see if I can find out anything about them.

 

[joshlee]

You should be able to find a generic filter. In the old days you could just bring your used filter into the parts store and they would measure it up and give you options or a direct replacement.

When you ID a suitable replacement, buy a quality brand like Fleetguard etc.

I think PT took off the good cyclonic filter housing due to the confined engine compartment.

 

[joshlee]

I’ll give Napa a try and see if they can come up with anything. I know you have a 1430, too, John; I’ll post on here what I find out.

Yeah, the filter PT fitted on these machines seems to work fine. It’s a very basic filter for sure, and one would think it would be fairly simple to cross reference.

 

[MTGreen]

Wix filter by size:

Catalogs

wixfilters.com

 

[joshlee]

Wix filter by size:

Catalogs

wixfilters.com

Awesome, man.
Thanks.

 

[ponytug]

Yes, there are 3 letters stamped on these new air filters, and when I have time I’m going to see if I can find out anything about them.

You probably need a few more letters / digits to cross reference.
Here is the cross reference site that I use to find other numbers to further cross reference filters. I always double check the look and sizes if I can.

Air filter cross reference

11 replacement air filters for DEUTZ 1319257. See cross reference chart for DEUTZ 1319257 and more than 300.000 other air filters.

www.airfilter-crossreference.com

All the best,

Peter

 

[m5040]

The older 1430 I have used a metal shield around the filter media, the newer one has open media. I don't have the clogging issue with either, so can't say if it is a cheap fix or not.

 

[ponytug]

FWIW: Generally the metal mesh is there to stiffen the filter so the filter element can be compressed against the seal. I could see how better sealing, more flexible seals might allow the removal of the metal mesh.

All the best,

Peter

 

[joshlee]

The older 1430 I have used a metal shield around the filter media, the newer one has open media. I don't have the clogging issue with either, so can't say if it is a cheap fix or not.

That is interesting, I never knew about those shields on these models. You bought your 1430 sometime after I bought mine. I bought mine in 2016.

 

[m5040]

I bought my new 1430 from PT, it was in the last bunce of diesels just before they went to the gas engine. My old one I picked up used with numerous attachments with 1000 hours. The old one has the can around the filter element. Don't know why they changed to an open filter. I think the metal cover would keep it cleaner. May even be able to be modified to swirl the air stream and throw out heavy dirt...a someday project.

 

[joshlee]

Do you think that can shroud was made by PT or Duetz?

I guess I forgot about you buying the used one.

 

[m5040]

IMHO Duetz sold the engine with a filter like on the 1445/1460 but PT didn't have space in the chassis for the nicer filter housing, so they made a very simple one, initially with the can cover, then just an open filter with the precleaner sponge. Deutz has a high reputation for quality and would have sold the engine with a centrifugal housing with the rubber ejector and a restriction gauge. At some point I want to get pics of the clearance between the tub on the 1430 and 1460 to add to the discussion on a different post regarding the timing belt and clearance to change it.

 

[joshlee]

Yeah, that subject would make for some interesting discussion. Today a Deutz repairman came to my place to deliver an alternator for the 1430, and his thoughts were that to make a stock Deutz air filter to fit on this machine, it would need to be mounted outside of the hood somewhere.

 

[ponytug]

Yeah, that subject would make for some interesting discussion. Today a Deutz repairman came to my place to deliver an alternator for the 1430, and his thoughts were that to make a stock Deutz air filter to fit on this machine, it would need to be mounted outside of the hood somewhere.

Yes, that is about the long and the short of it. There are some other tractor models that I have seen that have air filters that have to be removed to open the hood, but all the ones I know still have the dipstick and oil filler accessible...