New DK4710SE cab

[MoKelly]

Sorry - I messed up snd put my reply inside your quote.

MoKelly

 

[grsthegreat]

the only thing i dont like about Kiotis new cabs is the huge 1 piece door. on my 2011 model, there are 2 doors and a rear opening window, but there are also 2 vent windows on the side. great way to get some air flow when operating when i dont need ac or heat.

 

[Dave Canfield]

the only thing i dont like about Kiotis new cabs is the huge 1 piece door. on my 2011 model, there are 2 doors and a rear opening window, but there are also 2 vent windows on the side. great way to get some air flow when operating when i dont need ac or heat.

I agree about the doors. I looked at the NX series and the Yanmar YT347C for the window and door configuration, but I decided I could live with the difference in cost.
In the end I probably should have looked more seriously at the NX because I wound up adding most of the options that the NX comes with. I felt that the DK turning radius was where I needed to be size wise.
It's not easy to get a feel for the tractor sizes when there weren't any on any of the dealer lots. Still, I am very happy with the tractor I selected. And... today I am excited because my Big Tool Rack should arrive! I think the tool Rack will greatly help with fixing up this place.

 

[Dave Canfield]

2023 Update for all you researchers out there.
Well let's see...
1. I still really like the tractor. I am happy with the horsepower and lifting capacity it has.
2. Problems I have had so far: Brush disconnected the wires to the 3rd function once, Lost most of the hydro trans fluid while replacing the filters on the 50 hour service, Lost a bolt that connects the rear hitch position lever, Put a few nails into a front tire, Broke the rear window ($410) when I raised the rollover scraper onto the quick hitch, the handle on the scraper hit the open window. Lost enough refrigerant that the AC stopped working, Put a stick into the grill screen while using the grapple, Radio volume knob is getting iffy on the right side volume.
3. Options I would not buy if I had to buy the tractor again: none. I like all options I purchased, right down to the mirror in the cab and the armrests. The best option is the third function, closely followed by the Linked pedal and extra rear remote. I use the top and tilt much more often than I thought I would also. The top and tilt save time switching implements.
4. Things I plan to improve because they annoy me/I wish the factory had done better:
85 to 87 dB sound level is just too much for old ears. I plan to add some sound absorption materials to the cab.
The outside lights are pathetic. I plan to change them out and add side lights.
Make a better guard for the hydraulic system and third function valve. They supply a pathetic little box that doesn't protect all the wires and hoses. If I can lower the noise level in the cab, I will replace the radio and speakers with better ones. A better sound system is about $50.
Finally, I think I will put some little bumpers on the break release lever and the steering tilt mechanism stops. I don't like the sound they make when you release the brakes or tilt the steering wheel.
5. Fit and finish peves: Only one I can think of right now is the cover for the joystick mount does not fit closely with the fender cover
6. Implements I am glad I have:
Big Tool Rack carryall - I use the heck out of this. I did have to reinforce the frame of the carryall because I overload it, but it is working very well for moving tools, firewood, yard maintenance tools...
Everything Attachments 60" wicked grapple. I can pluck entire bushes straight up out of the ground and carry large logs and rocks.
The factory pallet forks are great. I use them far more often than I planned.

 

[flgtractor]

The 3rd function wiring connection is a bit sketch. I thought the dealer hacked it until I saw other like that. On the list to better protect and waterproof.

Already upgraded the lighting throughout to LED and added a brushguard.

Warranty items thus far was a sensor on the AC that needed replacing and the float indent was hard to engage. They replaced the whole valve unit vs repairing it.

 

[Dave Canfield]

The 3rd function wiring connection is a bit sketch. I thought the dealer hacked it until I saw other like that. On the list to better protect and waterproof.

Already upgraded the lighting throughout to LED and added a brushguard.

Warranty items thus far was a sensor on the AC that needed replacing and the float indent was hard to engage. They replaced the whole valve unit vs repairing it.

What kind of brush guard did you get? How well do the headlights shine past the brush guard?

Dave

 

[mitch8628]

2023 Update for all you researchers out there.
Well let's see...
1. I still really like the tractor. I am happy with the horsepower and lifting capacity it has.
2. Problems I have had so far: Brush disconnected the wires to the 3rd function once, Lost most of the hydro trans fluid while replacing the filters on the 50 hour service, Lost a bolt that connects the rear hitch position lever, Put a few nails into a front tire, Broke the rear window ($410) when I raised the rollover scraper onto the quick hitch, the handle on the scraper hit the open window. Lost enough refrigerant that the AC stopped working, Put a stick into the grill screen while using the grapple, Radio volume knob is getting iffy on the right side volume.
3. Options I would not buy if I had to buy the tractor again: none. I like all options I purchased, right down to the mirror in the cab and the armrests. The best option is the third function, closely followed by the Linked pedal and extra rear remote. I use the top and tilt much more often than I thought I would also. The top and tilt save time switching implements.
4. Things I plan to improve because they annoy me/I wish the factory had done better:
85 to 87 dB sound level is just too much for old ears. I plan to add some sound absorption materials to the cab.
The outside lights are pathetic. I plan to change them out and add side lights.
Make a better guard for the hydraulic system and third function valve. They supply a pathetic little box that doesn't protect all the wires and hoses. If I can lower the noise level in the cab, I will replace the radio and speakers with better ones. A better sound system is about $50.
Finally, I think I will put some little bumpers on the break release lever and the steering tilt mechanism stops. I don't like the sound they make when you release the brakes or tilt the steering wheel.
5. Fit and finish peves: Only one I can think of right now is the cover for the joystick mount does not fit closely with the fender cover
6. Implements I am glad I have:
Big Tool Rack carryall - I use the heck out of this. I did have to reinforce the frame of the carryall because I overload it, but it is working very well for moving tools, firewood, yard maintenance tools...
Everything Attachments 60" wicked grapple. I can pluck entire bushes straight up out of the ground and carry large logs and rocks.
The factory pallet forks are great. I use them far more often than I planned.

Thanks for the update. I'm considering a DK4720SE and am thinking of the same add-on's. Didn't really consider the PTO cruise, but maybe I should. I'm also considering a 2nd and 3rd rear remote (I'd like to really get the Everything attachments all hydraulic rear blade).

 

[Dave Canfield]

Thanks for the update. I'm considering a DK4720SE and am thinking of the same add-on's. Didn't really consider the PTO cruise, but maybe I should. I'm also considering a 2nd and 3rd rear remote (I'd like to really get the Everything attachments all hydraulic rear blade).

I have only used the PTO cruise control when I use the mower. It helped when I got into heavy brush alternating with no brush.
What is the difference between the DK4710SE and the DK4720SE? Looking at the Kioti website I could not see any visual difference except the hood. Comparing the options revealed a much shorter list for the 20, but I don't see any listing of standard features that would show where the 10 series options are standard for the 20. Probably the website person just got sloppy.

Dave

 

[flgtractor]

What kind of brush guard did you get? How well do the headlights shine past the brush guard?

Dave

I got the Broken Anvil guard. It works great with plenty of light coming through. I upgraded all the bulbs to LED, including the headlights, and replaced the front/rear work lights with LED. Multiples of brightness. I plow with it in the winter in the teens and no issues with lenses freezing over.

Kioti DKxx10/20 series, and select CKxx10/20 Series Brush Guard Insert – Broken Anvil Metalworks

brokenanvilmetalworks.com

 

[tacticalturnip]

This is the one for the DK, and some CK models, like mine.

Kioti DKxx10/20 series, and select CKxx10/20 Series Brush Guard Insert – Broken Anvil Metalworks

brokenanvilmetalworks.com

 

[Dave Canfield]

Thanks! Looks like Broken Anvil is the way. I like that they are about 1/8" thick.
Now that I see what a difference in light output, I will get the guard after I upgrade the lights. I am seriously considering the
Nilight Side Shooter LED Light Bar / Pods 2PCS 6.5 Inch 60W Flood Spot Beam Combo on Amazon. I would replace all the light fixtures up by the roof, and add one more on each side. I can mount the side lights on the beacon light brackets.

 

[AirOpsMgr]

Thanks! Looks like Broken Anvil is the way. I like that they are about 1/8" thick.
Now that I see what a difference in light output, I will get the guard after I upgrade the lights. I am seriously considering the
Nilight Side Shooter LED Light Bar / Pods 2PCS 6.5 Inch 60W Flood Spot Beam Combo on Amazon. I would replace all the light fixtures up by the roof, and add one more on each side. I can mount the side lights on the beacon light brackets.

Fwiw, I have a Broken Anvil guard on my DK5310SE, fits great, easy to install and has prevented damage to the front end when grappling brush, running into brush piles, but I will say that I get alot of reflection from the headlights off of the back of it, sometimes so much so that I will run with the headlights off and just use the cab work lights (Mine is the howling Coyote upper).

I may rattle-can the back side of the guard in flat black to reduce the reflection, but just mentioning as any of the larger metal guards will reflect the headlights back at you, even with big gaps to let light past....

 

[tacticalturnip]

Fwiw, I have a Broken Anvil guard on my DK5310SE, fits great, easy to install and has prevented damage to the front end when grappling brush, running into brush piles, but I will say that I get alot of reflection from the headlights off of the back of it, sometimes so much so that I will run with the headlights off and just use the cab work lights (Mine is the howling Coyote upper).

I may rattle-can the back side of the guard in flat black to reduce the reflection, but just mentioning as any of the larger metal guards will reflect the headlights back at you, even with big gaps to let light past....

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That howling one looks great! I went with the more standard option, and in gray; I get little light reflected. I wonder if the orange reflects more light?

Maybe your tractor is too clean?

Lol.

 

[RjCorazza]

I have been removing my bolt on grill guard in the winter. The 110w front and rear cab LED's provide all of the light I need, but are blinding to other drivers on the road. My plow route has me on about 2 miles of residential roads.
Not that I rely on it, but I could also plow with the front and rear cameras... It's spooky how well they work in the dark!

 

[Dave Canfield]

I have been removing my bolt on grill guard in the winter. The 110w front and rear cab LED's provide all of the light I need, but are blinding to other drivers on the road. My plow route has me on about 2 miles of residential roads.
Not that I rely on it, but I could also plow with the front and rear cameras... It's spooky how well they work in the dark!

I may cut larger holes in the guard to reduce the reflection. Matt finish dark paint sounds like a good idea also. I find that the lights reflect off the attachment (bucket, pallet forks, grapple) enough that it is annoying. So I may keep the low output lamps in the headlights and just upgrade the rest of the lights.
What cameras are you using? I like the idea of mounting a camera such that I could view material going into the bucket, tips of pallet forks...

 

[RjCorazza]

I didn't want to cut holes in the guard, as I already mangled the $400 decorative grill prior to adding the guard.
The camera I used was a relatively inexpensive camera kit from Amazon. I opted for the wired cameras when I learned that they also get powered by a wire inside the video cable. Tap into 12v within a few feet of the monitor, then just run the video cables to the cameras.