Share Pics of People Hauling or Towing Something Wrong

[lilranch2001]

The message I was replying to commented his largest flange was 4".

Then I related an experience building a small crane for "hauling" a 36" blind flange. This is the towing/hauling thread isn't it?

I think he was talking about 4” THICK MATERIAL….

Not 4” diameter!

 

[Renze]

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Dunning–Kruger effect - Wikipedia

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Under/overestimating its own competence in relation to peers is well documented in the field of psychology by Dunning and Kruger, even though it was noted thousand years ago.

A Greek philosopher already said " the fools speak with absolute certainty, while the wise are full of doubt"

 

[Renze]

I think he was talking about 4” THICK MATERIAL….

Not 4” diameter!

Yep. 1 inch web, 4 inch flange. 60 tons of ballast, on a barge offshore.

2 years ago a customer threw our one size smaller, the 180 ton and 20ft wide over the tracks, on its side. Only structural damage was a dent in the counterweight.

 

[WinterDeere]

I’m not sure I understand the point of this post?!?!?

You know that all the best content happens only after the thread de-rails, right?

Renze's Dunning and Kruger effect presently has my vote for most interesting post... in a thread about towing, of all things.

 

[lilranch2001]

I suppose that explains a lot of your posts….

 

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[WinterDeere]

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His tongue weight looks too low. Should've turned the mini pickup around in the trailer.

 

[sixdogs]

Depends on what state he's in, not all states require it.

Thank you. I knew that to be the case because all the guys I know put a strap on the bucket and a strap or chain on the backhoe. Out here, it's just the way it is.

 

[California]

Thank you. I knew that to be the case because all the guys I know put a strap on the bucket and a strap or chain on the backhoe. Out here, it's just the way it is.

Backhoe, certainly. That bucket could swing anywhere.

Front loader, non-quick change? Its bucket doesn't seem any more likely to fall off in the road than say, the hood.

The strap rule is likely in the books after a significant incident with a bucket falling off. In this case, slow cautious towing on back roads without another car in sight, the turnbuckles at the four corners of the little tractor looked sufficient.

But I never would have taken that on the highway. Because with every weight spec maxed out - trailer tires, axle, GVW, towing capacity, it would be impossible to recover from a swerve made necessary by someone else's surprise stupidity. Slow and solitary were the elements that made this backroad trip possible.

 

[California]

Not wrong. Unique and interesting.

How to load a huge log onto the truck without hoisting equipment​

 

[gstrom99]

His tongue weight looks too low. Should've turned the mini pickup around in the trailer.

I think he shoulda just put the little pickup in the trailer first, then piled the stuff on top, but that's just me. None of MY towing setups have ever been photo'd and posted on here of course.

 

[John0829]

I think he shoulda just put the little pickup in the trailer first, then piled the stuff on top, but that's just me. None of MY towing setups have ever been photo'd and posted on here of course.

That's why you do it in the dark of night with NO moon...

 

[Dftodd]

I cannot recall which towing thread taught me this lesson, but I wanted to thank the experts at TBN for saving me time and perhaps more.

I was towing wrong today. Had a SxS on my trailer and was going down the road. Got up to about 30 mph and it starts to wiggle. Even before TBN, I knew this was bad. Thanks to TBN, I knew exactly what was wrong and how to fix it. I was able to go about 25 until I got to a boat ramp. Pulled in there, loosened the straps and moved the load forward about 12-18 inches. (Retightened) Presto, no more wiggle, even at highway speed.

A hearty and sincere thanks to whomever (probably many of you) pointed out the symptoms of too little tongue weight.

Put yourself a painted line on your trailer or take note of something (fender, etc... ) for a reference point for loading the next time.

I was one of those weird people that would back my tractor onto my trailer. The way the tractor was balanced, I parked the front tires on the edge of the dove tail. I could roll down the road and not even feel the tractor on the trailer.

This also made it easier with the brush hog. I just dropped the wheel over the front rail onto my chain box.

Worked out well after I installed the loader on the tractor. I had just enough room on the dove tail to raise and lock in the ramp

 

[Dftodd]

I think there is a more efficient way.

If only he had some way to pull it

 

[Dftodd]

There aren't many single-photo memes that I've stared at longer than that one, just wondering... "how"?

Years ago I was driving down the road and saw a mid 80's regular cab, 4x4, jacked up Chevy pickup sitting on top of a Pontiac fiero at a stop light.

A cop was walking around it with a clipboard, scratching her head, and occasionally giving the WTF gestures trying to write up an accident report. I'm thinking she was lost for words trying to figure out how to write up the accident report.

It looked like a crane had placed the truck neatly and precisely on top of the car with the rear tires on the trunk and front tires on the hood. The only damage visible were where the tires were resting on it.

I figure the fiero rear ended the mud truck causing it to hop.

 

[orezok]

A number of years ago I saw a semi doing an emergency stop on the shoulder after losing his spare tire. About a 1/4 mile further on there was little compact car sitting perfectly centered on the tire with all 4 wheels off the ground.

 

[Renze]

It looked like a crane had placed the truck neatly and precisely on top of the car with the rear tires on the trunk and front tires on the hood. The only damage visible were where the tires were resting on it.

I figure the fiero rear ended the mud truck causing it to hop.

You dont need a mud truck to do that. Ive seen an Opel Astra with its rear wheels on the hood on some sort of Citroën 10 years ago. Both braked hard, the hit helped the Astra bump up on top of the hood.

 

[Renze]

A number of years ago I saw a semi doing an emergency stop on the shoulder after losing his spare tire. About a 1/4 mile further on there was little compact car sitting perfectly centered on the tire with all 4 wheels off the ground.

Thats lucky... ive seen a car with a truck tire that replaced its left front tire, and further on, a truck that lost a dual.

A truck wheel at full speed can make quite an impact, youre lucky if it rides up over top of you, in worst case it comes through your windshield and kills you. In this case it smashed into the car, breaking the strut tower and taking its place. I call that lucky because its only tin damage.

 

[gstrom99]

I was on I-80 going through Iowa City a couple years ago, and had a semi tire/wheel pass me on the shoulder. This was on a stretch that had the concrete median wall, and it just kept on going - bouncing/sliding along that wall. I backed way down and watched it eventually bounce off to the right and off the roadway. No other traffic was around, strangely (maybe they all stopped, behind me?). Funny, I thought at first, then realized how lucky I was.

 

[WinterDeere]

Put yourself a painted line on your trailer or take note of something (fender, etc... ) for a reference point for loading the next time.

I actually have two little mini levels epoxied onto my trailer, which are used when loading, assuming I can find level ground to make their use practical. I know where the bubble should sit, to achieve my tongue weight ratio target. One is near the tongue, the other is on the side wall directly over. The shackle between the two axles. I watch this mid-wall one as I’m winching logs onto the trailer, it tells me when to halt on pulling them forward.