superior 394 sickle bar mower

[timbowr64]

I have a superior 394 sickle bar mower and I have broken a couple of the blade bars and one of the guard bars. I'm wondering if the friction tension is not set right on the bars? I'm not sure exactly what this is called, but I know there is a certain tension or friction these have to be set to. Does anyone know anything about these and how to set it?

 

[Gordon Gould]

I have the 7' version. Bought it 23 years ago and have broken some sections and guides as I use it roadside mowing and hit stuff. I have never had to adjust it. I have the manual and it says to make the adjustment:

1) loosen 2 M12 nuts
2) loosen lock nut and adjust M10 allen screw for a clearance of .012 to .2 inches between blade holder and tooth.
3) tighten lock nut and 2 M12 nuts and check clearance.

Here is mine taken apart to replace some guide teeth. You don't need to take it apart. You loosen the two outside nuts a little and then adjust the allen screw to rock the bracket and adjust the gap. It's a pretty sloppy adjustment - not critical at all.

EDIT: Maybe too sloppy. Perhaps it's a manual typo and should be .012 to .020 inches ???

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[Gordon Gould]

My mower cuts fine and when I break something it is because I hit something. Mostly rocks or a pebble will get caught just right. I like to run it with the teeth angled up a little. Out of curiosity I went out and measured what mine measured for a gap. There was a lot of variation. The tightest were about 0.060 and the average was a little wider than that - 0.070 or so. Never adjusted from the initial setting as it was shipped from Ken Sweet Farm Equipment which is where I get parts.

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[timbowr64]

Thank you both for replying and it was helpful. I'm guessing you are using a feeler gauge to measure this with, am I correct? I think the .012 thousandths is a pretty tight fit. So with having two knife bars breaking and one guard bar breaking, I was thinking that there might not be enough friction to keep the bars from slapping so hard at the end of each cycle. I don't know, maybe I was bouncing the bar too much when I had a clog trying to get the hay off.

 

[Gordon Gould]

Thank you both for replying and it was helpful. I'm guessing you are using a feeler gauge to measure this with, am I correct? I think the .012 thousandths is a pretty tight fit. So with having two knife bars breaking and one guard bar breaking, I was thinking that there might not be enough friction to keep the bars from slapping so hard at the end of each cycle. I don't know, maybe I was bouncing the bar too much when I had a clog trying to get the hay off.

Yes I used a feeler gauge. I suppose if you had a firm/hard clump stuck just right and you slapped the ground really hard you might break something. Not the way I have tried clean the bar. If it doesn't fall off when I raise the bar and run the mower off the ground I get off the tractor and clean it by hand. Too much clogging/tearing and I slow down. The cutters/guides are not going to break from whip-lash if that is what you are thinking.

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[Tall Man]

I have a sickle mower that I think is a NH 450, but can’t find serial number or any identifying nameplate. Does anyone know the location?

 

[peteinohio]

Could anyone refer me to where I could find a manual or illustrated parts breakdown for the Superior 394?

 

[Gordon Gould]

Could anyone refer me to where I could find a manual or illustrated parts breakdown for the Superior 394?

I have a manual that has parts lists and diagrams - 16 pages of them. Is there any section you need to see. I can email copies. Maybe your parts supplier will make a copy for you.

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[peteinohio]

At this point I'm just looking for something that shows the parts with the associated part numbers. I will ask the parts guy when I talk to him as well.

 

[Gordon Gould]

At this point I'm just looking for something that shows the parts with the associated part numbers. I will ask the parts guy when I talk to him as well.

So you want all 16 pages of diagrams and p/l's ?? You can't narrow it down to a specific section of the mower ?? Maybe show a picture of your mower with the problem area highlighted.

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[Gordon Gould]

At this point I'm just looking for something that shows the parts with the associated part numbers. I will ask the parts guy when I talk to him as well.

I found this manual download - First choice and Superior are the same mowers. Mine has both names on it.

Superior 394 Sickle Bar Mower Owners Manual

Write something about yourself. No need to be fancy, just an overview.

powerfultactical955.weebly.com

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[peteinohio]

I could not find the manual using that link but I did find one elsewhere. I bought a model 394 but am having an issue with it fitting onto my Kubota 3000 tractor. The bar that interacts with the chains at one end is dangerously close to the right rear tire. Any adjustment to the left causes the sway adjustment link on the left to rub the tire on that side.

Now I need the owners manual so I can properly setup the mower.

 

[Gordon Gould]

I could not find the manual using that link but I did find one elsewhere. I bought a model 394 but am having an issue with it fitting onto my Kubota 3000 tractor. The bar that interacts with the chains at one end is dangerously close to the right rear tire. Any adjustment to the left causes the sway adjustment link on the left to rub the tire on that side.

Now I need the owners manual so I can properly setup the mower.

I suspect you will be disappointed in the manual because the mower is not easy to mount on the 3ph and the manual is vague at best. here are the pages on mounting ang running the mower.

I run my mower on an L3010 30 hp tractor. The 3ph is narrow for it. My mower has two pins for the left lower lift arm - I use the inside one to avoid the problem you noted. Black arrows are the ones I use

I run it with a small side ways angle on the top link and drive shaft but it has not hurt any thing and keeps the tires safe. The angle is limited by the chain hanger that goes over the top link.

Maybe this will help you ???

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[timbowr64]

Yes I used a feeler gauge. I suppose if you had a firm/hard clump stuck just right and you slapped the ground really hard you might break something. Not the way I have tried clean the bar. If it doesn't fall off when I raise the bar and run the mower off the ground I get off the tractor and clean it by hand. Too much clogging/tearing and I slow down. The cutters/guides are not going to break from whip-lash if that is what you are thinking.

gg

Thanks, I have one more question, when you run your mower, does it sound like it's going to explode? I mean mine knocks like crazy. Almost sounds like it's hitting against a metal stop or something. It's just really noisy. Maybe I'm just used to my disc mower.

 

[Gordon Gould]

Thanks, I have one more question, when you run your mower, does it sound like it's going to explode? I mean mine knocks like crazy. Almost sounds like it's hitting against a metal stop or something. It's just really noisy. Maybe I'm just used to my disc mower.

It's pretty noisy, especially when the bar is not laying flat on the ground - like cutting the edge of a ditch with part of the bar extended in mid air - I wear hearing protection. It is like lots of different rattling sounds all going together. The belt cover is the worst of it. But on flat ground in grass it is more quiet because the vibration gets damped out but it is still noisy. Hard to describe. I have a video of running that I could upload to youtube if that would help.

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[Patrick Wears]

I could not find the manual using that link but I did find one elsewhere. I bought a model 394 but am having an issue with it fitting onto my Kubota 3000 tractor. The bar that interacts with the chains at one end is dangerously close to the right rear tire. Any adjustment to the left causes the sway adjustment link on the left to rub the tire on that side.

Now I need the owners manual so I can properly setup the mower.

I imagine you figured this out by now but the rear link sits on top of the mower. Mine kept going underneath. Have you had any problems with the guard bar breaking?

 

[timbowr64]

I imagine you figured this out by now but the rear link sits on top of the mower. Mine kept going underneath. Have you had any problems with the guard bar breaking?

Which part are you talking about that goes on top of the mower? Rear Link?