Marvel Mystery Oil

[ray66v]

Marvel Mystery oil was invented 100 years ago.

I am amazed that people want to believe there is still some secret there, which in 100 years, hasn't been figured out by the 100's of competitors the oil business has during those 100 years.

To give you an idea of the technology available to the chemical industry, I knew an automotive paint chemist, who told me that when their competitors came out with a new product they would buy it, and analyze it, and in 24 hours, they knew everything there was to know about it. They then began the process of deciding if they would make their own version. And that was over 20 years ago.

There may have been some great secrets in Marvel Mystery oil, when it came out. But, it's silly to suggest there are benefits that oil companies haven't discovered and taken advantage of, in their products.

As we saw in the ULSD lubricity tests a while back, adding something to make your fuel lubricate better, can actually sometimes do the opposite.

When you experiment, you can never know for sure what your making.

 

[NoTrespassing]

Marvel Mystery oil was invented 100 years ago.

I am amazed that people want to believe there is still some secret there, which in 100 years, hasn't been figured out by the 100's of competitors the oil business has during those 100 years.

To give you an idea of the technology available to the chemical industry, I knew an automotive paint chemist, who told me that when their competitors came out with a new product they would buy it, and analyze it, and in 24 hours, they knew everything there was to know about it. They then began the process of deciding if they would make their own version. And that was over 20 years ago.

There may have been some great secrets in Marvel Mystery oil, when it came out. But, it's silly to suggest there are benefits that oil companies haven't discovered and taken advantage of, in their products.

As we saw in the ULSD lubricity tests a while back, adding something to make your fuel lubricate better, can actually sometimes do the opposite.

When you experiment, you can never know for sure what your making.

As I posted earlier:

In an NTSB post aircraft accident investigation published in 2003, it was reported that Marvel Mystery Oil was composed of 74 percent mineral oil, 25 percent stoddard solvent, and 1 percent lard.[4]

If you can believe the National Transportation Safety Board, that's what's in it. It's not a mystery but if it works like you want it to, why not use it.

 

[ArlyA]

Marvel Mystery oil was invented 100 years ago.

I am amazed that people want to believe there is still some secret there, which in 100 years, hasn't been figured out by the 100's of competitors the oil business has during those 100 years.

To give you an idea of the technology available to the chemical industry, I knew an automotive paint chemist, who told me that when their competitors came out with a new product they would buy it, and analyze it, and in 24 hours, they knew everything there was to know about it. They then began the process of deciding if they would make their own version. And that was over 20 years ago.

There may have been some great secrets in Marvel Mystery oil, when it came out. But, it's silly to suggest there are benefits that oil companies haven't discovered and taken advantage of, in their products.

As we saw in the ULSD lubricity tests a while back, adding something to make your fuel lubricate better, can actually sometimes do the opposite.

When you experiment, you can never know for sure what your making.

My wife and I have been fighting lots lately and I heard MM oil helps. Oh and the kids won't listen to me either, but that oil helps that as well. Does it help with dogsproblems?

 

[Topzide]

Only thing that goes in my crankcases besides Rotella T6 is Nano Borate and it's not cheap but it's a superior internal engine cleaner.

Didn't know a skin healing aid cleaned engines!

 

[5030]

Didn't know a skin healing aid cleaned engines!

Wasn't aware of that. I use the Archoil A6500 Nano Borate additive in all my internal combustion engines, I purchase it by the gallon and it's in the excess 150 bucks a jug. Only takes about 6 ounces per tractor and an ounce in my small engines like my gas driven welder and pressure washer. Cars get it as well. In fact I only use one oil in everything, T6

Had the one M9 in the shop last fall for a tune up and overhead adjustment at 6,000 hours and I was there when the technician removed the valve cover and at 6K hours, you could have eaten off the top of the head and the inside of the valve cover was clean and bright and had no sludge or blowby on it. Even the technician at the dealership was amazed, he asked me what I was using as far as oil and I told him Rotella t6 and Archoil Nano Borate additive. Told me he was getting some for himself as he farmed on the side and had a couple diesel tractors.

Typically using a synthetic oil like T6 will cause tan colored deposits inside an engine, I don't have those either.

 

[Yander]

Yrs ago my wife found a lo mileage under warranty used '85 Fleetwood Cad. she wanted. We bought it. Soon started giving trouble. Cadillac was going put new engine in it but was delayed.
I was back in mechanic dept & mechanic was drizzling water down thru carb while running & said same thing, that when water burns & explodes the shock cleans up valves & pistons carbon.
I've also done the "ATF overhaul" before & get rid of neighborhood mosquitoes.

If you've ever cleaned a Blackstone griddle with water, I think it is the same principle. Put the water on when it is cold it does nothing but if the griddle is hot, it strips all kinds of garbage right off.

 

[ray66v]

In an NTSB post aircraft accident investigation published in 2003, it was reported that Marvel Mystery Oil was composed of 74 percent mineral oil, 25 percent stoddard solvent, and 1 percent lard.[4]

A lot of aircraft owners insist on putting MM in their fuel, against FAA regulations. I know a few of them.

The same FAA has also kept modern technology from being allowed to be installed. So, the equipment we are using has technology as old as MM. Which is why some will argue it makes sense.

 

[5030]

All I know is, it makes excellent air tool lubricant and it smells good too.

 

[rmonio]

Great stuff. It is my go to for my fuel and oil treatments …. And rates right up there with TriFlow for all other lubrication items!

 

[ray66v]

All I know is, it makes excellent air tool lubricant and it smells good too.

That's the real mystery, why is there pepsin in Marvel Mystery oil?

Pepsin is a digestive enzyme. Did they put it in there to make it smell good? Or, is it digesting something?

 

[ArlyA]

That's the real mystery, why is there pepsin in Marvel Mystery oil?

Pepsin is a digestive enzyme. Did they put it in there to make it smell good? Or, is it digesting something?

Good smell = good marketing.

 

[5030]

I do know that my air tools run excellent on a shot of it regularly.

 

[ray66v]

I do know that my air tools run excellent on a shot of it regularly.

ATF, or hydraulic oil also work well.

They blow it right out, so it's more about quantity, than quality.

 

[ray66v]

Good smell = good marketing.

Perhaps.

Their are products like Blaster, I will not ever use, due to the smell.

But, most don't seem to find it offensive.

 

[5030]

They blow it right out, so it's more about quantity, than quality.

Yes and no. If I take them apart (which I do regularly), there never is any buildup on the carbon vanes that power them. You have to have a lubricating coating in them or they won't rotate.

 

[dodge man]

I have found PB Blaster to smell bad but I do use it. Smells like moth balls.

 

[ray66v]

Yes and no. If I take them apart (which I do regularly), there never is any buildup on the carbon vanes that power them. You have to have a lubricating coating in them or they won't rotate.

The reason they put "Oil Daily", on tools, was because as I said, it blows right out.

My first retirement job, was rebuilding pneumatic tools.

I learned from a master for six years. I have rebuilt many hundreds of tools, of all different kinds.

The biggest reason for buildup inside a tool, is the quality of your air supply. Lots of shops have old compressors, with old corroded plumbing, sucking in dirty air, and blowing all that crap through their tools.

Most customers were large facilities which we did work for every week, so we knew what they had as far as air systems. We saw the difference when we disassembled tools. Those had a quality air system, and ran filters on their tools, did not have the kind of wear on their air motor end plates, you saw from those who didn't.

We were changing the screens in the inlet filters, so we could tell who was doing as we suggested, and who wasn't. A high volume 40+ cfm air tool can clog an inlet screen real fast, if there isn't a good clean supply of air going to it. Sometimes a grinder would come back after being serviced, with the inlet filter clogged right back up.

Just running a tool with clean dry air, doesn't not cause the scarring that requires the end plates to be replaced. Veins and bearings will wear faster, but most tools will run just fine dry, until the bearings wear out. But, that takes a while.

Some tools today, are built with greased bearings, and stamped "oil less".

Most of my life prior to that, was spent doing automotive paint work. We had to avoid oiling our tools, to keep from contaminating the jobs. They still lasted until the rest of the tool was well worn, and it was ready to be replaced anyway.