please identify this 3 bottom plow

[disney]

Just picked this up, and would like to know more about it. curious as to possible age, but more importantly what brand/ model is it for the purpose of parts.

I do know (or at least believe) it is a 14" ?furrow? size

Appears to be a wide Cat one, but shimmed to cat 2 at the lower link.

thank you to all who read, and an extra thanks to those who respond.

I hope everyone is doing well.

 

[5030]

Dearborn?

 

[Tinhack]

Looks like early IH or Case. Not because of the color but because of the "bolt together" design and coulter mounting. IH stuff came in a crate and had to be assembled. Hundreds of nuts and bolts. Newer stuff is all welded except for the adjustable parts.

 

[stuckmotor]

The repaint job can be misleading. If you pull enough bolts you might find enough that's still the original color to give you or those here a clue about the manufacturer.

 

[disney]

He listed it with it's 'natural' brown rust color. I was surprised to see it painted. I would really hate to deal with very old rusty bolts just in the hope of finding some paint... I can try to google some of the part #'s, but I did not know it there would be some plow wizard that would just know by the picture.

 

[MF243RedTop]

Repainted JD plows .. most likely 416 model
Couple of sets below you can compare

 

[disney]

Repainted JD plows .. most likely 416 model
Couple of sets below you can compare

I will look closer over the weekend, but I think we (you) might have a winner. thank you very much

 

[5030]

Nuth'in beats a '5 gallon finish' until you have to remove parts.

 

[mo1]

Looks like early IH or Case. Not because of the color but because of the "bolt together" design and coulter mounting. IH stuff came in a crate and had to be assembled. Hundreds of nuts and bolts. Newer stuff is all welded except for the adjustable parts.

That vaguely looks like a Case at first glance but I highly doubt it is on further investigation. Case's 3 point mounted plow would be one of the "M" series plows and I have one in my machine shed (3-14 MRB.) The 3 point setup is not what Case used. Case used a flat bar with a lower link pin sticking out of one side, and then turned down the other end of the flat bar and used a bolt-through link pin on the other side. Case did not use round rods for the 3 point mast either, they used flat bars. You would also expect to see a number of parts with "CASE" and/or the Old Abe logo cast into them on a Case plow and I didn't see any in the pictures, particularly on the coulter shank mounting brackets. The landsides on the front two bottoms look a lot different than what Case used. Case also usually liked to use a long conventional-type landside on the rear bottom of their 3 point plows rather than a rolling landside.

I bet it is a Deere 416, it looks like one and I think I see the "JD" cast into a coulter hub too. If it is, Deere plow parts are easier to get than pre-CaseIH Case plow parts. The next generation of Deeres after the 416 had a welded rectangular top tube and looked a lot like one of the Case semi-mounts of that time period, such as the 4-16 STA we had growing up.

Removing bolts from an old piece of tillage equipment usually involves either twisting them off if there is enough nut left to do so, or cutting them off with a torch or angle grinder if the nuts are worn down. Rarely do you just remove a nut from a bolt.

 

[oosik]

Looks very similar to my Pittsburg. I have a single bottom moldboard plow.

 

[MF243RedTop]

I will look closer over the weekend, but I think we (you) might have a winner. thank you very much

Yeah ... I have a very similar JD set but with the tubing brace across the top of all 3 plows other than that basically identical... Definitely JD..

 

[masseyrider]

Good luck getting parts for any older plow.
Used to have a good selection at TSC years and years ago.
They had a shelf with all sorts. If you weren't sure of it's parentage you brought in your old share and compared until you found one.
Last time I went there for shares the old guy working there said nope, not anymore. They used to have 4-5 thick catalogues of parts for all sorts of equipment.
Now they have 1 medium catalogue of parts, almost all from China. If they don't make it, nobody here does.
Much of the old equipment that used to be on small farms has no source for parts.
Plow I've had for years is a Dearborn. Last time I got new shares (10 years ago) they were $130 a piece.
Last spring I tried to track some down but nobody had any. The local New Holland parts guy gave me the number of their last supplier. I called and was told they no longer cast them and no old stock around.
Anybody around who used to stock them has any left.
Used to be able to buy a whole plow at auctions for $20-50 that still had good life left in them.
However as the small acreages disappear these are becoming as rare as hen's teeth. Most have met their maker at the hands of scrappers.
So now I use my plow just for the annual garden and try to conserve it as much as possible.
There is no way I'm paying what they want for a new entire plow.
Hopefully, if yours is a JD you might get lucky share wise.

 

[MF243RedTop]

Good luck getting parts for any older plow.
Used to have a good selection at TSC years and years ago.
They had a shelf with all sorts. If you weren't sure of it's parentage you brought in your old share and compared until you found one.
Last time I went there for shares the old guy working there said nope, not anymore. They used to have 4-5 thick catalogues of parts for all sorts of equipment.
Now they have 1 medium catalogue of parts, almost all from China. If they don't make it, nobody here does.
Much of the old equipment that used to be on small farms has no source for parts.
Plow I've had for years is a Dearborn. Last time I got new shares (10 years ago) they were $130 a piece.
Last spring I tried to track some down but nobody had any. The local New Holland parts guy gave me the number of their last supplier. I called and was told they no longer cast them and no old stock around.
Anybody around who used to stock them has any left.
Used to be able to buy a whole plow at auctions for $20-50 that still had good life left in them.
However as the small acreages disappear these are becoming as rare as hen's teeth. Most have met their maker at the hands of scrappers.
So now I use my plow just for the annual garden and try to conserve it as much as possible.
There is no way I'm paying what they want for a new entire plow.
Hopefully, if yours is a JD you might get lucky share wise.

Maybe check here

https://www.shoupparts.com/products/moldboard-plow-parts/

But like anything ordered over the web.. it costs $$$

 

[masseyrider]

Thanks for the heads up.
They have everything but the share.

 

[Williy]

MasseyRider, don't know if you are familiar with
nickel silver a/c brazing rods they are very hard and
if you brazed the ends of your plows IMHO believe
that this would help them to last a very very long time
as you can't put a nick in the braze with a side cutters

willy