Cheap heat for uncabbed tractor plus intake preheat?

[sd455dan]

Been thinking it would be nice to have some heat around when plowing and eventually blowing snow on my uncabbed tractor

Noticed these inexpensive 5000-8000 watt vevor heaters for ~$120 that have four port output. Thinking if I can find a place to mount it could direct 3 ports to the operator to keep warm-er than no heat, and one to the intake for even faster cold weather starting.

Should be able to T into the diesel fuel line so no tank needed and also the interface runs on 12 volts and is only supposed to draw about 50 watts so no need for a separate battery.
The unit also has a flexible exhaust to direct it away from the area where the heat is.
Anyway ordered one and we will see, and if it just works for some extra operator heat that is OK to. Or this could be a complete fail... Will update when it arrives and get it installed.

VEVOR 8KW Diesel Air Heater Muffler Diesel Heater 12V 10L Tank Diesel Parking Heater 8000W with Lcd Monitor for Boat Bus RV and Trailer, 8KW 12V 10L | VEVOR US

Stay warm with the VEVOR Diesel Air Heater, an 8KW 12V heater with low fuel consumption and an intelligent LCD monitor, perfect for RVs and trailers.

www.vevor.com

 

[npalen]

Looks to be fairly compact at 4.5" square. Wonder if a person could mount it under the hood?

 

[sd455dan]

Looks to be fairly compact at 4.5" square. Wonder if a person could mount it under the hood?

Yeah it is fairly compact but has a fairly long axis.

Just seems like it would be pretty adept for use with a diesel tractor.
I "think" it will fit under my oil bath air cleaner and should be right next to the fuel line as well.

My fuel tank runs directly under the hood so that area is out, but I probably do not need to use the included fuel pump- but anyone with a tank down low like under the step the pump will be nice to have.
The heat output should be above 20000 BTU when cranked up.

 

[Monster5601]

I've got two of these diesel heaters (5kw and 8kw) and they work very well. I use one that has thermostat control to heat my wife's greenhouse. The other that lacks thermostat control I use in my workshop to take the edge off of cold.

They are very popular with the European RV crowd and there are tons of YouTube videos on them (ICWeld on YouTube put one in his wife's greenhouse). On startup they use a glow plug that pulls several amps, once fired, the current is minimal and used for the injection dosing fuel pump and two fans.

Because the fuel pump delivers a known quantity of fuel to the heater, under pressure to atomize, you have to use the pump supplied. The heat output level is adjusted by the controller by varying the cycle speed of the injection pump.

 

[FordnMassey]

Hi,
Forgive my ignorance, but how do you make the heat useful to the operator on an uncabbed tractor?

 

[Gordon Gould]

Hi,
Forgive my ignorance, but how do you make the heat useful to the operator on an uncabbed tractor?

I don't know about those heaters but on my open station dozer the fan blades are reversible. They are normally set to blow forward - from the engine compartment forward out thru the oil cooler and radiator. In the winter you turn them the other way, towards the rear, and open a floor board plate. Then the cold air gets pulled in the front and gets warmed by the radiator and engine. The warm air blows out at your feet and legs. Makes a huge difference in comfort.

gg

 

[RjCorazza]

I have looked at these heaters in the past for other uses, and may get one to take the edge off in my garage. It always comes down to how to exhaust to the outside for me.

Kind of drifting off topic, but if the diesel heater doesn't work out, consider trying 12v heated clothing. When I was plowing with an open station tractor I used a heated jacket, gloves, and pants made for motorcyclists. Gerbing was the brand, and they can control 2 zones with a thermostat. It'll keep you nice and warm.

 

[scootr]

A great review - includes a complete braekdown of the units construction and function - Looks like a great workshop heater !

There is a huge selection of models too > VEVOR Diesel Heater | VEVOR US

 

[sd455dan]

Hi,
Forgive my ignorance, but how do you make the heat useful to the operator on an uncabbed tractor?

I was going to use the hoses and the four outputs Mainly for my Feet one for each foot and maybe one aimed at the chest Thought it might be neat to direct some hot air at the engine intake since it would also be right in the same area.

I have looked at these heaters in the past for other uses, and may get one to take the edge off in my garage. It always comes down to how to exhaust to the outside for me.

Kind of drifting off topic, but if the diesel heater doesn't work out, consider trying 12v heated clothing. When I was plowing with an open station tractor I used a heated jacket, gloves, and pants made for motorcyclists. Gerbing was the brand, and they can control 2 zones with a thermostat. It'll keep you nice and warm.

That is a great idea, I will look into that.

 

[alexpops]

Don't know about the Vevors, but I have an older (bigger) Espar unit in my boat. Great heat output, but be careful of the exhaust routing as my original burned through due to alignment issues. I'd also be leery of material quality & maybe invest in a CO monitor if pointing towards face. The Espars were set up similar to the old VW Bug exhaust heaters & if the heat exchanger burned or rusted through, it was direct exhaust to passenger compartment.

 

[LouNY]

What I did for my non cabbed tractor which has a canopy was to get a golf cart cover,
it provides wind and snow protection which makes for nicer working conditions.

That with the mentioned heater might be nice, but just keeping most of the wind off is a large help.

 

[scootr]

Don't know about the Vevors, but I have an older (bigger) Espar unit in my boat. Great heat output, but be careful of the exhaust routing as my original burned through due to alignment issues. I'd also be leery of material quality & maybe invest in a CO monitor if pointing towards face. The Espars were set up similar to the old VW Bug exhaust heaters & if the heat exchanger burned or rusted through, it was direct exhaust to passenger compartment.

Lucky for us the VW cars leaked so badly there wa always an adequate supply of fresh (freezing) air.
I like the Golf Cart cover idea. I have a couple new new cart covers left over. PM me if interested.

 

[big bubba]

Amazon.com

try it out. works for motor cyclists, & cheap

 

[Bendboater]

I was thinking about putting a seat heater in my tractor seat.
I put two in my open cab (though there is a roof) UTV and they work great. I have an aftermarket heater (blowing hot air) in the UTV too, but between the two, the heated seats is by far the better improvement.....and costs a lot less.
I think my biggest concern is that the warm seat would melt snow which would get me wet. But I figured I didn't have to turn it on if that was a concern (snowing heavly). The one I installed in my UTV (by Tusk) goes fairly high up the back (which feels really good on a cold day), but it may be too high for a tractor seat.
Another option would be to use a heated seat cover.

 

[big bubba]

just a poor man's way compared to attempting to heat an aftermarket enclosed space.
has it's applications in hiking or survival options as well. to be honest, i avoid the cold when i can, but love my open station

 

[Smokeydog]

Adding some heat pads to the seat is something I would like to try. Wished for something like that many a times doing winter chores and feeding. A little heat can go a long ways on a open station.

 

[priberc]

Been thinking it would be nice to have some heat around when plowing and eventually blowing snow on my uncabbed tractor

Noticed these inexpensive 5000-8000 watt vevor heaters for ~$120 that have four port output. Thinking if I can find a place to mount it could direct 3 ports to the operator to keep warm-er than no heat, and one to the intake for even faster cold weather starting.

Should be able to T into the diesel fuel line so no tank needed and also the interface runs on 12 volts and is only supposed to draw about 50 watts so no need for a separate battery.
The unit also has a flexible exhaust to direct it away from the area where the heat is.
Anyway ordered one and we will see, and if it just works for some extra operator heat that is OK to. Or this could be a complete fail... Will update when it arrives and get it installed.

VEVOR 8KW Diesel Air Heater Muffler Diesel Heater 12V 10L Tank Diesel Parking Heater 8000W with Lcd Monitor for Boat Bus RV and Trailer, 8KW 12V 10L | VEVOR US

Stay warm with the VEVOR Diesel Air Heater, an 8KW 12V heater with low fuel consumption and an intelligent LCD monitor, perfect for RVs and trailers.

www.vevor.com

What I did for my non cabbed tractor which has a canopy was to get a golf cart cover,
it provides wind and snow protection which makes for nicer working conditions.
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That with the mentioned heater might be nice, but just keeping most of the wind off is a large help.

"back in the day" when pretty much all equipment was open station. The name of the game then was to get the engine heat blowing on you. You have an engine running at +/-180 degrees and a fan built in use it. I have seen some pretty ingenious ways to get the heat from motors onto the operator. In the case of tractors I have seen a complete "wrap" where a tarp fully encircled the entire front of the tractor sending all heat back onto the operator. The old boy who did that said his tractor both got up to temp faster and he had to start shedding clothes if he had lots of snow to move
Personally I just dress for it.....wool long johns etc etc.....and I do completely block the rad on my tractor too. Even with no tarps I get some engine heat on me

 

[priberc]

Been thinking it would be nice to have some heat around when plowing and eventually blowing snow on my uncabbed tractor

Noticed these inexpensive 5000-8000 watt vevor heaters for ~$120 that have four port output. Thinking if I can find a place to mount it could direct 3 ports to the operator to keep warm-er than no heat, and one to the intake for even faster cold weather starting.

Should be able to T into the diesel fuel line so no tank needed and also the interface runs on 12 volts and is only supposed to draw about 50 watts so no need for a separate battery.
The unit also has a flexible exhaust to direct it away from the area where the heat is.
Anyway ordered one and we will see, and if it just works for some extra operator heat that is OK to. Or this could be a complete fail... Will update when it arrives and get it installed.

VEVOR 8KW Diesel Air Heater Muffler Diesel Heater 12V 10L Tank Diesel Parking Heater 8000W with Lcd Monitor for Boat Bus RV and Trailer, 8KW 12V 10L | VEVOR US

Stay warm with the VEVOR Diesel Air Heater, an 8KW 12V heater with low fuel consumption and an intelligent LCD monitor, perfect for RVs and trailers.

www.vevor.com

back in the day" when pretty much all equipment was open station. The name of the game then was to get the engine heat blowing on you. You have an engine running at +/-180 degrees and a fan built in use it. I have seen some pretty ingenious ways to get the heat from motors onto the operator. In the case of tractors I have seen a complete "wrap" where a tarp fully encircled the entire front of the tractor sending all heat back onto the operator. The old boy who did that said his tractor both got up to temp faster and he had to start shedding clothes if he had lots of snow to move
Personally I just dress for it.....wool long johns etc etc.....and I do completely block the rad on my tractor too. Even with no tarps I get some ,not much, engine heat on me

 

[scootr]

I ended up buying one of these for the welding shop. Plan is to do some much needed oil changes and burn a 50/50 mix with red diesel. Fedex shows it out for delivery today. That was fast!

 

[sd455dan]

"back in the day" when pretty much all equipment was open station. The name of the game then was to get the engine heat blowing on you. You have an engine running at +/-180 degrees and a fan built in use it. I have seen some pretty ingenious ways to get the heat from motors onto the operator. In the case of tractors I have seen a complete "wrap" where a tarp fully encircled the entire front of the tractor sending all heat back onto the operator. The old boy who did that said his tractor both got up to temp faster and he had to start shedding clothes if he had lots of snow to move
Personally I just dress for it.....wool long johns etc etc.....and I do completely block the rad on my tractor too. Even with no tarps I get some engine heat on me

My 3.3 liter engine does blow some air but never enough to keep warm. I like the heated seat and clothes ideas. Will look into them as well.

The heat will have to wait for a little bit.

This arrived. YEE HAW

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and Well I have been waiting for this baby for a while... It gets 1st in line to be up and running. But I will post the diesel heater when it gets here