Tire puncturing form orange osage trees

[Rockbadchild]

Without looking it up, I think my R4s have an 8 ply rating. No comparison to a lawn tractor tire. I did manage an ugly puncture once-- a deer antler.

Tires are less likely to be punctured when the ground is dry.

100% and to prove your point check the video below its unreal.

 

[PJRAM]

I have a number of Orange Osage Trees that are blocking the sun from my garden. I want to take them down and clear them out. I have a Kubota BX23S with Grapple that I could use after I chain sawed them down. But, I'm afraid of running over the thorns and puncturing the tires for leaks. I've had a number of leaks on my Scags grass cutter from those darn thorns. I've thought about renting a Track steer with grapple, but that is pretty expensive. Also using a Tree Sheer to cut them down.
I am contemplating putting something into the tractor tires like "Multi-seal" before the project.
Any comments or suggestions would be welcomed.
I have R4 tires on the tractor now.

I have osage orange trees on m property and have gotten flats on my riding mower and bicycles. No flats on my Massey GC1723 yet. I bought this stuff which worked great on the riding mower tires and the bicycles. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07WZQBTTN/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o02_s00?ie=UTF8&th=1

 

[cwgrizz]

When I was a kid many moons ago, we brush hogged Osage Orange down when a stand of bushes would start in a pasture. Flats every day on front tires of tractor and bush hog. I spent as much time fixing flats as I did mowing. Ha! Wish they would have had tireject back then. I use it now, not in this situation, but my mowers, quads, side by sides, etc which are used in the southern AZ desert. It works great. I am really sold on Tireject.

 

[Mudfarmer]

Punctured three tires cleaning up local hawthorn. Notably it was always the front. I have R1s on one tractor and R4s on the other. Front tires on both got punctured - no problem with the rears. The punctures occurred when I was chopping up the small branches with the bush hog. Bottom line, rear tires seem less likely to get a thorn puncture. Front tires are easy to take off and cheap to repair; my Les Schwab dealer does it for free for the tires I bought there, otherwise less than $15. Also, a puncture repair provides a good chance to put tubes in the tires. I'd just go with what you've got, don't drive into the pile, and repair any flats you get. I'll bet you don't get any.

 

[Midniteoyl]

After researching ''TireJect'' I've notice they advertise it as preventative product as well as fixing punctures you are right ... I wasn't aware of this when I wrote my initial comment. You are saying you had situation(s) where you are 100% sure you had a puncture but it did not leak because of product like these ?? see myself I've had punctures and apply the product with about a 50/50 successful rate therefore I am skeptical about the effectiveness to prevent puncture(s). I am guessing there is multiple variables affecting the effectiveness of these product but if you had success with it then it must work and a thorn is not very big so I guess it could work.

Ya, I've had cuts in mowers and trailer tires after installing Multi-Seal with no loss of pressure. Prior too using it, I was fixing flats 1-2 times a month. Even sealed tubed tires after the fact. I was impressed enough that I installed it in all 4 tires of the tractor when I bought it (the filled tire version in the rears).

Project Farm did a vid on the stuff and found it sealed 1/2" punctures with ease.

 

[Midniteoyl]

I have osage orange trees on m property and have gotten flats on my riding mower and bicycles. No flats on my Massey GC1723 yet. I bought this stuff which worked great on the riding mower tires and the bicycles. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07WZQBTTN/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o02_s00?ie=UTF8&th=1

Ya, thats the same stuff as Multi-Seal, which is who makes it, and what I use in tires smaller than tractor rears. Works great.

 

[joecole]

My grandfather solved that problem with "Gensco" aircraft tires. He put the 19 ply tires on the front of his Ford 5000 in the 70's. I am still using them. The rears with the big ribs don't have as much problem with thorns.

I am assuming that the Osage Orange is the same thing called Bois d'arc. The wood is orange when cut and the thorns will easily puncture a 4 ply tire. The problem is the branches fall and get run over with the shredder and stay in the pasture forever. We have 100 year old fence posts, so I am assuming the thorns are still around.

 

[DaBear3428]

After researching ''TireJect'' I've notice they advertise it as preventative product as well as fixing punctures you are right ... I wasn't aware of this when I wrote my initial comment. You are saying you had situation(s) where you are 100% sure you had a puncture but it did not leak because of product like these ?? see myself I've had punctures and apply the product with about a 50/50 successful rate therefore I am skeptical about the effectiveness to prevent puncture(s). I am guessing there is multiple variables affecting the effectiveness of these product but if you had success with it then it must work and a thorn is not very big so I guess it could work.

all of the tire seal compounds only work for punctures in the tread (or close) not the sidewall, in the tread area my experience is they work pretty well, i have used it in turf (have to, 100% of the time) R1s some of the time but not my R4s. R4s are much more puncture resistant.

 

[ROUSTABOUT]

I am surprise that these thorns are capable to puncture tires.

Ones around here are 5 inch thorns and 3/8" or so at the base. Yes they easily go in tires.

 

[ROUSTABOUT]

I'd work that by hand. We have Osage orange trees here. No tractor on that job.

 

[Beeenvenue]

I have Osage orange (bois d’arc), honey locust, and hackberry. I use multi seal on my tractor as well as slime on my riding lawnmower (used for trimming and around the house) and utv. Lots of thorns, some long enough that they look like they might have at least caused a slow leak. Zero flats. Zero leaks.

I had my dealer install before I took delivery. The only real negative is you can’t load the tires.

 

[IndyJay]

Have you looked at Liquitube? They make a sealant for ballasted and non-ballasted tires.

 

[Midniteoyl]

The only real negative is you can’t load the tires.

Multi-Seal has a version for loaded tires. Used it in my loaded rears.

https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B07PYMGGJC

 

[Beeenvenue]

Multi-Seal has a version for loaded tires. Used it in my loaded rears.

https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B07PYMGGJC

Thanks! I hadn’t heard of that.

Now I guess I need to find out how to get the original formula out of mine….

 

[Midniteoyl]

Thanks! I hadn’t heard of that.

Now I guess I need to find out how to get the original formula out of mine….

You could probably mix it, if you dont have tons in there already. Email Multi-Seal and ask. They've been pretty responsive in the past.

 

[Dwilson540]

Appreciate all the comments.
I think I'm going to go with the cutting down (one way or the other) and renting a track Steer to clear. I'm probably going to use a dedicated area to leave the brush pile. Kind of a "No Travel Zone". Scags has turf tires yes it does. Kubota R-4 and yes those thorns will penetrate.
Foam filled tires. I haven't see to much about how to do that. I'm 75 and don't think I'll ever need to replace the R-4's. So cutting off is not a big deal.
Thanks again all

Bill

Let's be more optimistic than that, I'm 73 and plan to put new sets of tires on my tractor. There was once a guy who was talking with his financial advisor and after reviewing his accounts the advisor said, "I guess you're all set, you've got enough to live on until you're 107!" The guy asked, "But what about after that?"

 

[bjh2915]

Thanks to all who have commented. I never thought that I would get this much help.
Thanks for the comments on the R-4 tires especially. If you are right, I won't have any problems. If you are wrong it sounds like using a tire sealent will take care of the problem

Good experience comments on the different kinds of sealents.

Can't get that anywhere else.

Once my garden is done this year, fence will come down, and project will start to fall the trees.

I will post later to confirm results of the project.


Again, thanks to all

Bill

 

[bjh2915]

One additional comment. I checked out my R-4 tires on my BX23S. They are 4-ply
So, maybe other R-4 tires have more walls to them, but mine don't. I think someone said 6 or 8 ply.
Must be some industrial tire and the comment didn't see that mine was a BX23S tractor.

 

[big bubba]

naww, locust ain't going to hurt yer tractor tarrr

 

[bjh2915]

I am assuming that the picture is something other than an Orange Osage tree.
Don't think that I would try to climb Big Bubba.