Experience at Kubota dealer - central Florida

/ Experience at Kubota dealer - central Florida #61  
Calculate what you think the price should be......make a counter offer of that. If that offer is refused you may [or may not] get another price from the dealership. Then decide if you should walk away
 
/ Experience at Kubota dealer - central Florida #62  
So that tells me he was out to rake you over the coals in the beginning.
. The fact that he took off another $500 on top of beating them...
Why do people always think there are shenanigans going on to beat the customer to death?
I know there may be arrogance going on with some dealerships but there are those who attempt to do right by the customer and to their company existence.
People who sell stuff would like to get as much as they can. People who buy stuff want to spend at least as possible.
That's just humaness. Not a single person here would think differently if they owned a dealership or became a buyer for product.

Things are ever moving at this juncture. Even within a couple of days, a dealership may get notification of an additional rebate or some other incentive to help move product.
Could be that $500 difference may have been absorbed by such.
As a for instance, where some auto dealerships were getting 5 or $6000 over sticker, Mazda was offering a $400 incentive but they were getting just about sticker for their cars.

It has become that dealerships who are not marking up their cars, have become the angels of the industry even when dealing with sticker prices.
that's because as a society, we were used to negotiating prices.
Times change and adaptations of thought process becomes a regularity or else more and more people will be on Prozac or such.
 
/ Experience at Kubota dealer - central Florida #63  
Go hit up Perrin Equipment in Tifton GA. They are my go to and I’m over two hours away from them, as mentioned family business although they are a large dealer.
Or Southern Tractor in Valdosta Ga. Long drive though for you. Family owned, actually family farmer owned with three dealerships. The family has done impressively well for themselves and our community.
 
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/ Experience at Kubota dealer - central Florida #64  
Calculate what you think the price should be......make a counter offer of that. If that offer is refused you may [or may not] get another price from the dealership. Then decide if you should walk away
A reasonable approach.
Our Aturna mats ( mats used so equipment won't tear up grass) were $235 per mat last year. Now they are $365 for the exact same product. They use petroleum in their construction. The freight for the same loads we would get last year, is now $1800 more.
As a business, you can only absorb so much. As a business, you always attempt to ingratiate the customer for continued success. The conflict of these two agendas has never been so hard to juggle.
As a business, we feel badly for the consumer while being at wits end to protect the customer and employees and their families.
 
/ Experience at Kubota dealer - central Florida #65  
I think some frustration can rightfully fall at the marketing...

A well intentioned tractor buyer goes online and builds his tractor selecting option and when done has a fully configured tractor at MSRP to present and franchise dealer...

Walks into dealer and finds the Dealer price thousands more or it takes several visits to even get to price...
 
/ Experience at Kubota dealer - central Florida #66  
Or Crosby Equipment in Douglas Georgia.
My Kubota came from Crosby in Douglas, or I should say through. My local dealer worked out a dealer swap or something with them but he didn’t say exactly where he got it. My dealer just stuck his decal over Crosby’s. Oops.
 
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/ Experience at Kubota dealer - central Florida #67  
It doesn't have to be shenanigans or dishonesty. It can just be a matter of bad business which in turn can be a matter of incompetence or being overly aggressive. We don't have to put a moral label on the process. And it doesn't really change anything anyway. I don't care whether the problem is dishonesty or incompetence or high overhead.....I'm not going to do business there anyway.

I have only ever bought one tractor. It was new. A Kubota. It was 17 years ago....so probably isn't relevant to today. I lucked out with the dealer. Straight shooter. Great price. Zero % interest. Great product and package. So good in fact that a neighbor immediately bought the same model from them when he heard my deal and a TBN member from up north drove down here to buy one from this dealer when I posted my purchase here. I was semi famous at the dealer for a moment as their best salesman.

I'm looking for another tractor now. Five minutes at the Kubota and JD websites and there is no chance whatsoever of me buying new.
 
/ Experience at Kubota dealer - central Florida #68  
My Kubota came from Crosby in Douglas, or I should say through. My local dealer worked out a dealer swap or something with them but he didn’t say exactly where he got it. My dealer just stuck his decal over Crosby’s. Oops.
So far my little bit of dealings has been good with them, walked in told the salesman what I wanted, he sat down and handed me a quote across the desk, we agreed as I had already price checked several other dealers and the difference was substantial, whole thing done in under 1 hour, kinda the way it should be.
 
/ Experience at Kubota dealer - central Florida #69  
Why do people always think there are shenanigans going on to beat the customer to death?
I know there may be arrogance going on with some dealerships but there are those who attempt to do right by the customer and to their company existence.
People who sell stuff would like to get as much as they can. People who buy stuff want to spend at least as possible.
That's just humaness. Not a single person here would think differently if they owned a dealership or became a buyer for product.

Things are ever moving at this juncture. Even within a couple of days, a dealership may get notification of an additional rebate or some other incentive to help move product.
Could be that $500 difference may have been absorbed by such.
As a for instance, where some auto dealerships were getting 5 or $6000 over sticker, Mazda was offering a $400 incentive but they were getting just about sticker for their cars.

It has become that dealerships who are not marking up their cars, have become the angels of the industry even when dealing with sticker prices.
that's because as a society, we were used to negotiating prices.
Times change and adaptations of thought process becomes a regularity or else more and more people will be on Prozac or such.
Umm, because there are.
 
/ Experience at Kubota dealer - central Florida #70  
It’s understandable for business to maximize revenue…

The auto industry was plagued for years but window sticker including market value added amounts clearly shown goes a long way to the relationship.

We don’t know what we don’t know…

A good dealership desires to build long term relationship and I find this most prevalent with family run business where they are in it for the long haul instead of here today and somewhere else tomorrow.

I grew up around the car business and it sure made a difference my grandfather’s name was on the sign in front.

He had some very difficult sales that turned into dozens of sales… often a won over difficult buyer is your best word of mouth advertising.

Heck we were selling to grandkids of customers grand dad sold to in the 50’s

I really believe the revolving door so common in business is a negative…

To the day grand dad passed away his business card carried his home address and phone number.

Update... last night needed a new battery after 18 years for the BX23 and in a pinch went to O'Reilly and the manager recognized my name... She was 16 and bought a 68 Camaro off the Used lot in 1973 and I said was it Silver and she said yes... small world plus she gave me the trade discount.
 
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/ Experience at Kubota dealer - central Florida #71  
We've got a local car dealership that posts the prices on the cars on their used lot. That's the price. No haggling. No guessing. You like it, you buy it. You don't like it, you don't buy it. The prices seem to be right in the middle of low-high when doing research. So, you aren't getting a great deal, but you aren't getting ripped off, either. I like that.

PowerTrac posts their prices on their website. I liked that too. Here it is. It costs this much. Thanks or good day. Pretty simple.
 
/ Experience at Kubota dealer - central Florida #72  
Even when no haggle there are still spiffs.

Things like comp oil change, service plan, sat radio...

Probably comes from being a fly on the wall at the dealership... Real Estate and Vehicles where negotiation is accepted...
 
/ Experience at Kubota dealer - central Florida #73  
Even when no haggle there are still spiffs.

Things like comp oil change, service plan, sat radio...

Probably comes from being a fly on the wall at the dealership... Real Estate and Vehicles where negotiation is accepted...
The only thing they offer on their used cars is they have a free automatic car wash on site for life if you leave the advertising plate on the front of your car. ;)
 
/ Experience at Kubota dealer - central Florida #74  
Ask and ye shall receive?
 
/ Experience at Kubota dealer - central Florida #75  
Ask and ye shall receive?
They are very proud of their tradition and that is the price. They aren't hurting for business, either. We've bought both of our kids first used cars from them. Nice folks. They show you everything that was inspected and repaired on the cars, and, they show you everything that they could find wrong with the car that they did not address. They'll let you take it to a mechanic overnight or over the weekend. They'll let you buy it and return it within a few days if you feel you made a mistake.

I think the thing that draws people to them is that they're honest. No surprises when you go to check out. No one pressuring you to buy. They just show you what they have and hand you the keys to test drive as much as you want.

Like I said, not the best deal, but not the worst deal. Fair deal. You don't leave happy, but you don't leave mad. No one likes a fair deal. It's weird! 😛
 
/ Experience at Kubota dealer - central Florida #76  
I went with a friend to a one price dealer...

We found one they liked but they were just a little short so decided to wait.

The sales manager approached and asked if there was anything he could do... I explained they had an insurance check from their car being totaled but it was not enough... he said wait and then came back and said he is getting another lease return tomorrow that might work and it did... made the deal and it was better for less...

Never will know what went on behind the scene...

Stihl is very much that way too... most won't budge in price but I have had extra loops of chain or bar oil or mix as a freebie...

My last MS 250 I went with mom to pick up... Mom said the hat looked nice and he gave it to her...

Unlike another dealer that won't give a penny, nothing extra and never offers the factory promos like on Father's Day...

I asked why and was told they have a lot of municipal and state contracts and cutting prices or promos cause problems... then I said Caltrans pays retail and of course it doesn't. .
 
/ Experience at Kubota dealer - central Florida #77  
I went with a friend to a one price dealer...

We found one they liked but they were just a little short so decided to wait.

The sales manager approached and asked if there was anything he could do... I explained they had an insurance check from their car being totaled but it was not enough... he said wait and then came back and said he is getting another lease return tomorrow that might work and it did... made the deal and it was better for less...

Never will know what went on behind the scene...

Stihl is very much that way too... most won't budge in price but I have had extra loops of chain or bar oil or mix as a freebie...

My last MS 250 I went with mom to pick up... Mom said the hat looked nice and he gave it to her...

Unlike another dealer that won't give a penny, nothing extra and never offers the factory promos like on Father's Day...

I asked why and was told they have a lot of municipal and state contracts and cutting prices or promos cause problems... then I said Caltrans pays retail and of course it doesn't. .
When I worked at the newspaper, they would offer promos and discount rates for all kinds of stuff. New subscribers. Pay by mail. Pay by the month. 6 month. 1 year. Senior discounts. All kinds of stuff. It got to the point that they had several dozen different rates. So you're getting the paper at X price as a new subscriber, but your elderly neighbor, whose been a faithful customer for decades is paying many times X for theirs. They find out and complain. So you give them a discount. Then they call all of their elderly friends and tell them to call and complain. Then they do. Then everyone starts. Eventually, they won't take the excuse that their neighbors are getting it for a one-time promotional price, and will eventually be paying the same price you are. That still doesn't sit with them, and they cancel.

They hired a company that came in and analyzed the rate charts, and ran it through an algorithm that accurately predicted that if they raised their rates on all of their customers, some would cancel, some would stay, but the ones that stayed paying the higher rates would offset the ones that cancelled at the lower rates. So you now have less product to produce and deliver to less people, which requires less raw materials, less electricity, less fuel and fewer delivery vehicles, smaller warehoused and fewer employees, all while still making the same amount of money. So go ahead and quit our product, we don't need you. That's pretty much what happened in almost the entire newspaper industry.

It's also what's happening in many other industries. They have it figured out that even if they raise their prices so much that people stop buying their product (whatever it is), enough people will keep buying it at the higher prices to offset any lost customers and sales.

Look around and see if you can find any industries that cannot sell their products right now.
 
/ Experience at Kubota dealer - central Florida #78  
The SF Chronicle is like that with mom...

The only way to get a better rate is cancel and wait for the call.

It's about $600 annually and is less than half the physical size...
 
/ Experience at Kubota dealer - central Florida #79  
Kind of like SiriusXM radio.
They want $X dollars a month for their subscription.
As soon as it is expiring and you tell them to cancel, suddenly they will give it to you for 1/4 of the regular price.
 
/ Experience at Kubota dealer - central Florida #80  
but I'm sure that would destroy the long-term relationship.
That dealer already did that for you.
 

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