Fence Line App for my phone?

ponytug · Feb 5, 2022

EddieWalker said:
There are too many trees for any chance of seeing from pin to pin along the property line. If I go into my neighbors land, then it's mowed regularly, but not all the way to the edge of the easement where the cliff is.

I like the 30,40,50 triangle @Complete Turf Care suggested offset to aim down the gas pipeline. I would set the two fifties x 40s first, iterating until they line up and then set the other two. I would use steel concrete/site stakes; you could use the nail holes as crude pin holes for sighting the 90 degree roughly and to sight the other three stakes on the gas line. Once you have the two ends set, you can set up a 3,4,5 triangle anywhere in between to get line markers where you want them.

But it probably won't be survey grade, because who knows where the pipeline center really is.

All the best,

Peter

BackRoad · Feb 5, 2022

I've got a NatGas transmission pipeline crossing my property and needed to bury 3" conduit for the cable folks to run my cable service.

Called 811 and someone was there the next day to flag the actual pipeline location.

He told me it was a 10" transmission line, 6' deep based on the readings....and he flagged the pipe along a 25' length where I planned to cross it.

Guidance was any ground disturbance (which you might beneficially interpret to include fence post driving(?) needed 811 service first to mark the pipeline.

In my case, they also required somebody from the pipeline Co. to be present when I was digging within 25' of the pipeline flags, but that doesn't apply to you.

Not mentioning this for safety reasons, rather as a potential option for confirming the actual pipeline location if needed as a baseline reference for your fence line.

LD1 · Feb 6, 2022

Seeing the overhead view.....I think you have your best solution so far and are on the right track.

Get where you have line of sight from front to back and measure over

How you get that straight line for reference is gonna depend on what you have at your disposal.

Basically you need to make two new imaginary points where you have LOS, and both being an equal distance from you current known pins. That may be 25', or 37', or 107'. But whatever it is....attain your straight line to reference back

For that straight line...you can use a sight level, rifle scope, eyeball and a second person, string, wire, etc. Don't really matter. Just by eye....knowing the two end points....it's easy to place markers between the two with a pretty high degree of accuracy by sighting point to point and directing someone in-between the two points where to place a marker

EddieWalker · Feb 6, 2022

I agree. I was slow to understand what all of you where saying. But now it's all coming together and I'm feeling very comfortable with measuring 30 feet into my neighbors land and running the line from those two points. I'm a little unsure how the line will stretch over the drop in elevation, but I think that I can eyeball it to get it straight as I tighten it. I might lay a board across the ground so it can slide easily as I pull the line tight.

Another issue that I have with measuring from the marker for the pipeline is that the pipe might not be centered in the right of way. The marker could be accurate, but if the pipe isn't dead center, then I'm not going to have an accurate property line. The pins where set by the surveyor in 2005, so that's all that really matters. The pipe is just a reference, which is why I've been nervous about all of this.

Thank you. I'm looking at bailing twine now. I'm still clearing trees, but with this new plan, I can figure out where the line is even if it's too muddy to remove trees!! I'm also looking for a good way to wind it up again after I'm done with it.

ponytug · Feb 6, 2022

They do make reels for winding up wire and rope, but as this is baling twine, I would be inclined to use a piece of 4-5" PVC pipe to wind it on. If you got fancy and added two handles (rods/pipe) 180 apart, you probably could wind the twine like a speed demon. I think two pieces of 1/2-3/4" PVC and a 2x4" would be one way.

All the best,

Peter

dodge man · Feb 6, 2022

I ran offset lines all the time. It works well. We usually just clapped a 90. You stand on the line with your arms lifted and extended and fingers pointed up and down the line or your best best guess where the line is, close your eyes and clap your hands together in front at eye level. That will get you close to 90 degrees.