Battery based electric vehicles of today and tomorrow.

[Agvg]

New Circuit Board Can Charge 400-Volt EV Batteries Directly From Solar Panels

If this approach can be scaled up this could be useful to home EV charging.

This is the future in many places, producing energy to power your life, you can't produce your own gasoline, you can in theory produce fuel for old diesel engines at home but it's a very messy and labour intensive process.

 

[Agvg]

Here in Europe it's going to be a interesting winter, natural gas crisis, break down in electrical supply, prices wil destroy people with lower income, suppose a lot og people will freeze to death if it's going to be cold in central Europe.

Energy supply is a political matter that a lot of today's political broilers are way to disconnected to understand the long lines, depending on Mr Putin for energy is a bad idea.

 

[RoyJackson]

Here in Europe it's going to be a interesting winter, natural gas crisis, break down in electrical supply, prices wil destroy people with lower income, suppose a lot og people will freeze to death if it's going to be cold in central Europe.

Energy supply is a political matter that a lot of today's political broilers are way to disconnected to understand the long lines, depending on Mr Putin for energy is a bad idea.

Yep, a very bad idea! And we in the US are way way too dependent on China

 

[Snobdds]

Batteries are still not energy dense enough to be a viable long term solution. Right now, it's filling a need to tickle the sensibilities of an "enlightened" class of buyer. They know the concept is not anywhere near scalable or economical on a large scale. Batteries just hold energy, just like a wire...The key is finding a scalable power supply. Like Fusion. That is where the research and Development should be focused on. The next country to figure out a power supply for the next 300 years will be the next super power.

 

[Agvg]

Have been little interest in any newer and cleaner energy, oil, coal and natural gas have been owning the marked and probably the politicians. I come from a country that produces oil and gas, and in the same time tryes very hard to be "green", but the problem is that green is nice but oil pays the bills....

 

[Gale Hawkins]

This is the future in many places, producing energy to power your life, you can't produce your own gasoline, you can in theory produce fuel for old diesel engines at home but it's a very messy and labour intensive process.

The scalability of solar for home use is becoming more common. I understand OPEC has a lot of friends but to me driving an EV fully charged by sunshine collected in my own yard and or garage roof sounds like freedom from the gas pumps that I can't control. Energy independence means different things to different people.

How To Set Up a Solar-Powered Car Charging Station for your Home

If you have an electric car or are thinking of getting one, then a solar-powered car charging station might be a good option to look at for your home.

www.buildwithrise.com

Non battery commercial energy storage.

 

[Snobdds]

The scalability of solar for home use is becoming more common. I understand OPEC has a lot of friends but to me driving an EV fully charged by sunshine collected in my own yard and or garage roof sounds like freedom from the gas pumps that I can't control. Energy independence means different things to different people.

How To Set Up a Solar-Powered Car Charging Station for your Home

If you have an electric car or are thinking of getting one, then a solar-powered car charging station might be a good option to look at for your home.

www.buildwithrise.com

Non battery commercial energy storage.

Can you put 50kwh into the car each night from solar?

If you have 1000 watts or 1 kw of solar, it would take 6.25 days of solar to charge a tesla battery.

I don't think there is enough roof space to charge a tesla each night. It would require 20, thousand watt arrays to charge a tesla in a 8 hour period.

 

[Williy]

With all the birds in the sky by Musk I
don't believe GPS units will have any
trouble finding roads etc. Somehow
the birds will be used by GPS and you
will be able to travel in your electric car
and never touch the steering wheel
If I ever want to purchase a electric car
it would have to be a Tesla model more
advanced than any other electric car.

willy

 

[Jstpssng]

MSN

 

[Gale Hawkins]

Can you put 50kwh into the car each night from solar?

If you have 1000 watts or 1 kw of solar, it would take 6.25 days of solar to charge a tesla battery.

I don't think there is enough roof space to charge a tesla each night. It would require 20, thousand watt arrays to charge a tesla in a 8 hour period.

Keep in mind your max hours of solar gains at best time of the year is about 5 hours.

 

[Agvg]

Even here I live solar panels are popular, even it's not the most sunny place in the world, but so far I can't get the numbers to work when it comes to cost Vs savings, when enough old and cheap EV batteries is available and you can store energy it might be a better deal.

 

[airbiscuit]

I just saw a news report about the drought in the West, the over depletion of the Colorado River and the impact on desert farming in Arizona. Some farmers are trying exotic crops that require less water. Others are selling their land. I'm wondering, who would buy desert farmland with inadequate water? Answer: it is being converted to solar panel arrays.
Lots to unpack there, but Mark Twain said it best. "Whiskey's for drinking, Water's for fighting".

 

[Gale Hawkins]

I just saw a news report about the drought in the West, the over depletion of the Colorado River and the impact on desert farming in Arizona. Some farmers are trying exotic crops that require less water. Others are selling their land. I'm wondering, who would buy desert farmland with inadequate water? Answer: it is being converted to solar panel arrays.
Lots to unpack there, but Mark Twain said it best. "Whiskey's for drinking, Water's for fighting".

The next thing you know someone will call it man made climate change.

Over the eons of history that area has depopulated before. Fighting over water rights can be deadly. The lack of water is worldwide problem. Not sure solar panels and EVs are the long term fix.

 

[3930dave]

Not sure solar panels and EVs are the long term fix.

Top up your Koolaid Gale; you clearly haven't been drinking enough.

(I actually DO like EVs, for certain usage patterns).

Some of the irritation on this topic is definitely Carrrot and Stick related. Meaning.... we (Canadians at least) are going to get Beaten (even harder) with The Stick, so we take The Carrot.

Yesterday, I was startled a bit, by a # referenced in scheduled carbon taxes coming in the next year here. Call it +$1.00/gallon, and you won't be far off. Not that we have low cost fuel now....

If I was a neuro-surgeon (or some other 1%'er) and could just write a couple of cheques and load my compound with PV panels and a fleet of Teslas, I wouldn't consider this as a problem.....

Somebody started a BC Flood thread on here recently. I posted a video over there today, that was from engineers in 2020 re. the Fraser Valley floodplain. I knew about the 1948 flood there, but learned about the 1894 one in that vid - it was worse. Doubt there were many ICE vehicles in 1894.....

I'm not a Denier, but there is plenty of Cognitive Dissonance at play, on both sides of the story.....

(^ Not in your case Gale.... your open and inquisitive approach to these topics keeps me hanging out here.....)

Rgds, D.

 

[airbiscuit]

I just saw a news report about the drought in the West, the over depletion of the Colorado River and the impact on desert farming in Arizona. Some farmers are trying exotic crops that require less water. Others are selling their land. I'm wondering, who would buy desert farmland with inadequate water? Answer: it is being converted to solar panel arrays.
Lots to unpack there, but Mark Twain said it best. "Whiskey's for drinking, Water's for fighting".

I was simply curious about how desert land that can't be irrigated would be used, and who would find enough value in it to buy it.

 

[PuffyC]

I just saw a news report about the drought in the West, the over depletion of the Colorado River and the impact on desert farming in Arizona. Some farmers are trying exotic crops that require less water. Others are selling their land. I'm wondering, who would buy desert farmland with inadequate water? Answer: it is being converted to solar panel arrays.
Lots to unpack there, but Mark Twain said it best. "Whiskey's for drinking, Water's for fighting".

I recently drove through New Mexico near White Sands and up through Albuquerque and I can’t even count the number of what looked like abandoned cattle ranches and farms. You could see tanks (farm ponds) that were long dry, windmill pumps left to rot, and no livestock in sight. That was virtually everywhere. I don’t know what the actual story is but it gave me the very distinct impression that this was all ag land back when there was water, but something happened and the water is now gone making it good for nothing except maybe the antelope.

 

[Gale Hawkins]

A Greenie turning Pro Nuclear after many years Ted Talk

 

[3930dave]

Abandoned Farms/Ranches..... lots of reasons, today.

Being Small, anywhere, is pretty tough.

The water in those SW areas may not be totally gone, but now expensive enough to access, that added to all the other input costs and overhead...... how long do you stay in the fields, tearing up $1,000 bills..... ?

Rgds, D.

 

[3930dave]

A Greenie turning Pro Nuclear after many years Ted Talk

Stewart Brand walked that same Path, before him.

Study the science openly, is a good idea...... Rgds, D.

 

[Gale Hawkins]

Top up your Koolaid Gale; you clearly haven't been drinking enough.

(I actually DO like EVs, for certain usage patterns).

Some of the irritation on this topic is definitely Carrrot and Stick related. Meaning.... we (Canadians at least) are going to get Beaten (even harder) with The Stick, so we take The Carrot.

Yesterday, I was startled a bit, by a # referenced in scheduled carbon taxes coming in the next year here. Call it +$1.00/gallon, and you won't be far off. Not that we have low cost fuel now....

If I was a neuro-surgeon (or some other 1%'er) and could just write a couple of cheques and load my compound with PV panels and a fleet of Teslas, I wouldn't consider this as a problem.....

Somebody started a BC Flood thread on here recently. I posted a video over there today, that was from engineers in 2020 re. the Fraser Valley floodplain. I knew about the 1948 flood there, but learned about the 1894 one in that vid - it was worse. Doubt there were many ICE vehicles in 1894.....

I'm not a Denier, but there is plenty of Cognitive Dissonance at play, on both sides of the story.....

(^ Not in your case Gale.... your open and inquisitive approach to these topics keeps me hanging out here.....)

Rgds, D.

All of knee jerk climate change reactions is spilling my Coolaid.

I hope to never buy another ICE vehicle after experiencing a low end EV. I have come to realize my anti-EV thoughts of yesterday were based on nothing more than ignorance due to lack of first hand experience.

I do hope our 2010 F-150 with the 10K tow package and 220,000 miles on it is good for a half million miles.