Battery based electric vehicles of today and tomorrow.

[buckeyefarmer]

Shopping centers don't produce coal sludge, toxic chemicals, plug up streams. No comparison. Dirty Coal has no future.

It’s clean coal, you keep messing it up
Never seen coal sludge growing up in coal country. And they do plug up streams to build shopping centers.

 

[3930dave]

https://www.cnet.com/roadshow/news/...rmance-edition-bluecruise-first-drive-review/

So the Mach E is evolving to become a real Mustang?

I think the Model S Plaid is changing the world's view on what to expect from EV muscle cars.

I get the marketing angle(s) being played (Plaid) here, but my interest is more the other end of the spectrum....

Apologies if this has been up already lately....

I found it technically interesting, and if they can hit that production cost (?, since they went broke last time around, but kudos on sticking with it....) , I can see it selling to the segment that wants to buy efficiency.

Rgds, D.

 

[3930dave]

i'm pretty sure it's the cows belching as apposed to the other

Some of my usual sarcasm shining thru there....

Though.... methane digesters are pretty old news, enough so to be a plot element of Beyond Thunderdome back when....

Current newz cycles..... cows belching had play, but some of that may also be just anti-meat vectoring.....

Rgds, D.

 

[MossRoad]

If you have 100 acres of trees, and clear 2 acres every year for 50 years then you are growing as much wood as you are burning. By the time that you cut the last 2 acres, the trees growing where you cut 50 years ago have replaced them.
It's not a perfect exchange unless you are using a bowsaw and hand maul to cut it up, then hauling the wood out with a donkey and cart. There really is no such thing as a perpetual motion machine.

The only way that would work with coal is if you only dug as much coal as is produced in a year.
Oil is not from dinosaurs BTW...

I cut 50-60 telephone pole size locust trees for firewood every year for the past 11-12 years. That provides about 6 cords of firewood. So, I've removed 5-600 trees from our 20 acres and you can't even tell.

 

[Jstpssng]

I cut 50-60 telephone pole size locust trees for firewood every year for the past 11-12 years. That provides about 6 cords of firewood. So, I've removed 5-600 trees from our 20 acres and you can't even tell.

We take that one step further. My employer manages someplace north of a million acres in this state. We cut 10% less than what the land is estimated to be growing, to compensate for excesses from years gone by. Every ten years we "cruise" the ground to make sure that our growth estimates are accurate.

 

[drssg]

Tesla is 8 months behind on shipping some cars in current production due to demand and that is with ZERO EV Federal rebates in place for Tesla buyers.

People buying ICE vehicles are still subsidizing people buying Teslas, due to government imposed regulations that require ICE vehicle manufacturers to purchase emission "credits" from EV manufacturers.

Tesla just recently showed their first annual profit, and even that was enabled by the flow of money from ICE manufacturers. Tesla has yet to manage to build cars for less money than they sell them.

 

[Gale Hawkins]

People buying ICE vehicles are still subsidizing people buying Teslas, due to government imposed regulations that require ICE vehicle manufacturers to purchase emission "credits" from EV manufacturers.

Tesla just recently showed their first annual profit, and even that was enabled by the flow of money from ICE manufacturers. Tesla has yet to manage to build cars for less money than they sell them.

Going for Master of FUD?

 

[SylvainG]

Will the EVs share the roads with the e-bikes? Another wait list to get on. All wheel drive! Top speed 31MPH. No range anxiety, just start pedaling.

https://www.vanmoof.com/en-US/vanmoof-v?utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=211012_joinwaitlist_us

No choice but to share the road with ICE or EV vehicles because here, at least, E-Bike must be limited to 20 mph to use the MUP. They are a danger for pedestrian.

Wood is solar energy, generated by biological solar collectors.

So is hydro electricity. It's the sun that heats up the water from the ocean and bring it over terrain for it flow back into the rivers where the damns are.

 

[drssg]

Going for Master of FUD?

I'm sorry. I don't know what you are saying.

 

[Frankenkubota]

If you have 100 acres of trees, and clear 2 acres every year for 50 years then you are growing as much wood as you are burning. By the time that you cut the last 2 acres, the trees growing where you cut 50 years ago have replaced them.
It's not a perfect exchange unless you are using a bowsaw and hand maul to cut it up, then hauling the wood out with a donkey and cart. There really is no such thing as a perpetual motion machine.

The only way that would work with coal is if you only dug as much coal as is produced in a year.
Oil is not from dinosaurs BTW...

when i went to disney land. epcot, the exxon exhibit told me oil is from dinosaurs.

could both disney and exxon be lying to me?

 

[Jstpssng]

when i went to disney land. epcot, the exxon exhibit told me oil is from dinosaurs.

could both disney and exxon be lying to me?

Unfortunately, yeah. Disney is the last source I would go for information. Exxon lying?... let’s not go there.

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www.dnr.louisiana.gov

 

[Frankenkubota]

I've planted thousands of new trees. I don't think I've planted any new coal.

i've taken out thousands in the last 2 years...weedy trees

 

[Frankenkubota]

at the end of the day, the sun is responsible for everything.....except the sun itself, blame that on gravity.

i think the ancients had it figured out

father sun, mother nature

 

[kenmbz]

No choice but to share the road with ICE or EV vehicles because here, at least, E-Bike must be limited to 20 mph to use the MUP. They are a danger for pedestrian.



So is hydro electricity. It's the sun that heats up the water from the ocean and bring it over terrain for it flow back into the rivers where the damns are.

e-Bike a danger to pedestrians? Around here most pedestrian hits are by cars, as are most bicycle deaths.

 

[Gale Hawkins]

I'm sorry. I don't know what you are saying.

FUD | What Does FUD Mean?

In a text, FUD means Fear Uncertainty and Doubt. This page explains how FUD is used in texting or on apps like TikTok or Instagram.

www.cyberdefinitions.com

FUD as I was using it stands for Fear, Uncertain and Doubt especially when used to harm publicly traded companies for personal/emotional reasons.

This is something most have done without intent when we let others do our thinking for us.

No one is forcing anyone to buy anything from Tesla. No one is prevented from making EVs.

Elon Musk has reinvented electric mobility after it being dormant for 100 years.

Since Tesla has proven EVs lowers net cost the financial future of of EVs are no longer on doubt according to Ford, VW, GM, etc.

Should you be anti EV for any reason just follow HFT thread example and start a thread on why EVs will go the way of the Doo Doo bird instead of the ICE vehicles.

Please come back and post a link to the thread you will be starting.

By the way ICE vehicles are not going away in the life time of many of us.

 

[airbiscuit]

HFT = Harbor Freight Thread?

 

[Gale Hawkins]

HFT = Harbor Freight Thread?

Yes sorry about that I will watch the that.

 

[drssg]

FUD | What Does FUD Mean?

In a text, FUD means Fear Uncertainty and Doubt. This page explains how FUD is used in texting or on apps like TikTok or Instagram.

www.cyberdefinitions.com

FUD as I was using it stands for Fear, Uncertain and Doubt especially when used to harm publicly traded companies for personal/emotional reasons.

This is something most have done without intent when we let others do our thinking for us.

No one is forcing anyone to buy anything from Tesla. No one is prevented from making EVs.

Elon Musk has reinvented electric mobility after it being dormant for 100 years.

Since Tesla has proven EVs lowers net cost the financial future of of EVs are no longer on doubt according to Ford, VW, GM, etc.

Should you be anti EV for any reason just follow HFT thread example and start a thread on why EVs will go the way of the Doo Doo bird instead of the ICE vehicles.

Please come back and post a link to the thread you will be starting.

By the way ICE vehicles are not going away in the life time of many of us.

I don't see how this post has anything to do with my post, and you don't address any of the points that I made.

 

[Gale Hawkins]

I don't see how this post has anything to do with my post, and you don't address any of the points that I made.

Sorry I was not clear. Before seeing this post I did send a private message through TBN with my email address and cell phone number.

You have been a member here much longer than I have and I should have respected you and your support for TBN.