Battery based electric vehicles of today and tomorrow.

[Grumpycat]

I wasn't referring to mechanics. I was told years ago by a true Harley rider that it's crazy to patch a bike tire.

Where do you think he get that "knowledge" from?

Have ridden with many "True Harley Riders". When they get a puncture in their tire they are very thankful for my plug kit and inflator. "We can be rolling in 30 minutes or you can wait 2 hours for the flatbed truck." I plug, they forget the FUD and enjoy the rest of the ride.

Saw several weeks later and asked if he get a new tire. "Saw no point, it is holding air."

I had the bad luck a few years ago to get a puncture in a tire with just over 200 miles. Plugged it from the outside. Rode it bald before replacing.

 

[Williy]

Who in their right mind changes their oil at
1864.114 which is 3000 k's??????????? Ford
recommended 7500 miles for an oil change a
whole lot of difference to figure for the price of
oil changes!

The battery pack on the Model 3 is made up of 4 modules, so the estimated price for a pack replacement is a whopping $20,000-$28,000. And the labor is not included or any extra parts that need to be replaced! Almost have the price of a brand new gas
car!

a more accurate low estimate for an uncomplicated replacement of the Model Y’s battery pack would be around $11,000-$13,000.

So what happens if you battery pack is not covered under warranty
and you have to pay out of your pocket in a year or two????

And this is not always a true figure because some things have to be replaced​

and the price goes up.

willy

 

[SylvainG]

Don't know where you got that oil change mileage from.

As for batteriee, they are designed last the life of the vehicles, like an engine and those fails too, like mine did and it would have been a electric car, it would still have been under warranty repair, but nope, used one was $8,000.

This picture was taken behind the service bays of my Hyundai dealer. Notice all the engines sitting there...

 

[3930dave]

Battery is $5,000 to $7,000 (US) , I'm still up by at least $15,000, if it needs to be replaced by then. My 2013 Tucson engine failed last August. Cost to replace it with a used engine was $8,000. I scrapped it for $1,000 and bought the Tesla.

Tesla car batteries are designed to last 300,000-500,000 miles which is way more than I expect to keep the car.

Time will tell how many people are getting 300K+ on the OE pack. I'm hearing of some replacements already, albeit not many.

I'd be interested to know what's failing on those Hyundai's. Poking around rockauto, those still seemed to be mpfi. I'd be less surprised at failure if they were gdi.

Many people won't hang onto EVs past the warranty.... I frame it similar to marketing/owning cell phones....

I expect your T will serve you well, Enjoy !

Rgds, D.

 

[Gale Hawkins]

Who in their right mind changes their oil at
1864.114 which is 3000 k's??????????? Ford
recommended 7500 miles for an oil change a
whole lot of difference to figure for the price of
oil changes!

The battery pack on the Model 3 is made up of 4 modules, so the estimated price for a pack replacement is a whopping $20,000-$28,000. And the labor is not included or any extra parts that need to be replaced! Almost have the price of a brand new gas
car!

a more accurate low estimate for an uncomplicated replacement of the Model Y’s battery pack would be around $11,000-$13,000.

So what happens if you battery pack is not covered under warranty
and you have to pay out of your pocket in a year or two????

And this is not always a true figure because some things have to be replaced​

and the price goes up.

willy

Williy do you not understand those that have or will some day have a passing interest in EVs are wondering why you making nonsense posts like this?

 

[Fuddy1952]

Article covers battery replacement which is HIGH. Video shows process:
Used Tesla for Sale | Find My Electric › te...

Tesla Battery Replacement Cost Explained - Find My Electric

 

[Fuddy1952]

Article covers battery replacement which is HIGH. Video shows process:
Used Tesla for Sale | Find My Electric › te...

Tesla Battery Replacement Cost Explained - Find My Electric

A bad link. Search "tesla battery replacement cost" to be amazed. The pack since flat underneath bottom driving over a large rock can damage it.

 

[Gale Hawkins]

A bad link. Search "tesla battery replacement cost" to be amazed. The pack since flat underneath bottom driving over a large rock can damage it.

Check and make sure your Tesla has this safety feature installed that Elon Musk writes about.

Tesla Adds Titanium Underbody Shield and Aluminum Deflector Plates to Model S

In 2013, two extremely unusual Model S collisions resulted in underbody damage that led to car fires. These incidents, unfortunately, received more national headlines than the other 200,000 gasoline car fires that happened last year in North America alone. In both cases, the occupants walked...

www.tesla.com

 

[Fuddy1952]

Oh...like this?

 

[Gale Hawkins]

Oh...like this?

Why the change the subject from Tesla quality of battery packs!

 

[Larry Caldwell]

A bad link. Search "tesla battery replacement cost" to be amazed. The pack since flat underneath bottom driving over a large rock can damage it.

I'm sure the rust proofing on the battery pack will last through at least 5 winters.

 

[Fuddy1952]

Why the change the subject from Tesla quality of battery packs!

Point is if something fails I question the integrity of the whole thing.
For years I've had a Hyundai Accent for daily driving. 10yr/100K warranty, mpg around 35+. MSRP starts at $15,400. You can buy two for the least expensive EV.
Now...wait for the EV lover's explosion

 

[Gale Hawkins]

Point is if something fails I question the integrity of the whole thing.
For years I've had a Hyundai Accent for daily driving. 10yr/100K warranty, mpg around 35+. MSRP starts at $15,400. You can buy two for the least expensive EV.
Now...wait for the EV lover's explosion

If someone was going to give you an EV parked in your driveway fully paid license tagged etc which EV would you choose today?

 

[Cat385B]

If someone was going to give you an EV parked in your driveway fully paid license tagged etc which EV would you choose today?

Whoever can supply a one ton awd truck, reg cab, that can be fitted with a 10’ flatbed, and keep it under 20’ long.

 

[Steppenwolfe]

Not following.

Don't worry, it goes nowhere.

 

[Fuddy1952]

If someone was going to give you an EV parked in your driveway fully paid license tagged etc which EV would you choose today?

THIS!
Well...you asked for it!

I would sell it, buy an Accent, invest that $10+K.

 

[airbiscuit]

If someone was going to give you an EV parked in your driveway fully paid license tagged etc which EV would you choose today?

1. Ford F150 Lightening*​

2. Tesla Model X​

3. Ford Mustang Mach-E​

4. Audi e-tron​

5. Tesla Cyber Truck*​

6. Tesla Model S​

7. Tesla Model 3​

That is a marvelous question!

 

[3930dave]

If someone was going to give you an EV parked in your driveway fully paid license tagged etc which EV would you choose today?

Baker. (@ 3:15 below)

Not joking. Would suit my needs, and I'd actually get a "new" car with a decent greenhouse.

Rgds, D.

 

[Gale Hawkins]

This is fresh from the Germany factory tour. You can see there are no battery modules like has been the case since perhaps Model 3. Notice how seats are mounted on the center sturctual casting that holds the batteries so when battery goes in those seats are installed by default.

 

[txdon]

If someone was going to give you an EV parked in your driveway fully paid license tagged etc which EV would you choose today?

Liberty

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