Battery based electric vehicles of today and tomorrow.

[Jstpssng]

The link doesn't work, but China is shutting down factories because of power shortages, Europe is going to run out of fuel this winter, and the US will barely squeak by if we don't have any emergencies. Our diesel/fuel oil reserves are off 20% heading into fall. The era of cheap carbon is drawing to a close. Escalating fossil fuel prices will accelerate the change. When gasoline hits $6/gallon, people are going to be lining up to buy EVs.

Short-Term Energy Outlook - U.S. Energy Information Administration (EIA)

www.eia.gov

We estimate that U.S. energy-related carbon dioxide (CO2) emissions decreased by 11% in 2020 as a result of less energy consumption related to reduced economic activity and responses to COVID-19. For 2021, we forecast energy-related CO2 emissions will increase about 8% from the 2020 level as economic activity increases and leads to rising energy use. We also expect energy-related CO2 emissions to rise in 2022 but at a slower rate of 2%. We forecast that after declining by 19% in 2020, coal-related CO2 emissions will rise by 22% in 2021 and then decrease by 2% in 2022. Short-term changes in energy-related CO2 can be affected by temperature. A recent STEO supplement examines these dynamics

By your own statements, electric will have it's own problems. We just don't have enough solar panels, nor have we blasted off enough mountaintops for wind power, to make up for the perceived loss in oil production.

 

[Citydude]

The link doesn't work, but China is shutting down factories because of power shortages, Europe is going to run out of fuel this winter, and the US will barely squeak by if we don't have any emergencies. Our diesel/fuel oil reserves are off 20% heading into fall. The era of cheap carbon is drawing to a close. Escalating fossil fuel prices will accelerate the change. When gasoline hits $6/gallon, people are going to be lining up to buy EVs.

Off shore EV's. America wont have enough energy for manufacturing anything but toilet paper.

 

[Gale Hawkins]

That goes against everything that I ever learned... a Harley rider actually got on my case about that very thing. The funny thing about Harley guys; they may ride and act different than we'd like, but they take care of their machines.

Like he said getting home and pulling the tire and patching from the inside Is the best way. I need to get a plug kit to put in the glove box of the Leaf. In the process of buying a parts car we have 4 matching Wheels with Michelin tires for spares now.

 

[Gale Hawkins]

Short-Term Energy Outlook - U.S. Energy Information Administration (EIA)

www.eia.gov

By your own statements, electric will have it's own problems. We just don't have enough solar panels, nor have we blasted off enough mountaintops for wind power, to make up for the perceived loss in oil production.

Today Elon Musk stated that it will be like 2061 before the grid will have to be enough to handle all the cars because of gas and Diesel power will be around for another 40 years per the head of Tesla.

 

[Grumpycat]

Plugging motorcycle tires? THAT's a big mistake.

F.U.D.

Plugs work just fine. Never had one fail but have had a tire which leaked as much as 1 PSI/minute that I couldn’t find in a hour with soapy water. It went to the dump early.

 

[Larry Caldwell]

Short-Term Energy Outlook - U.S. Energy Information Administration (EIA)

www.eia.gov

By your own statements, electric will have it's own problems. We just don't have enough solar panels, nor have we blasted off enough mountaintops for wind power, to make up for the perceived loss in oil production.

Nothing happens overnight, but rising crude prices have already cut demand. OPEC has increased production because they don't want demand to drop. They depend on the cash flow, but the cow won't live forever.

 

[Jstpssng]

Nothing happens overnight, but rising crude prices have already cut demand. OPEC has increased production because they don't want demand to drop. They depend on the cash flow, but the cow won't live forever.

I understand that. Some do seem to expect it to happen overnight though; that's not going to happen.

 

[California]

Norway to hit 100 per cent electric vehicle sales early next year

Analysis shows the last new petrol or diesel car sold in Norway will come as early as April, 2022 – three years ahead of the government's target.

www.drive.com.au

 

[Gale Hawkins]

A global energy crisis is coming. There's no quick fix

At Tesla's shareholders meeting yesterday the global energy crisis was a strong undercurrent that is driving the supply chain issues that are getting worse by the day worldwide.

This pandemic has revealed how the worldwide economy is a house of cards.

With most of the worlds population heading into winter manufacturing is slowing as World governments direct the limited energy supplies away from making stuff to heating homes.

We have finally thrown the baby out with bath water. As Elon Musk keeps saying it's going to take a lot of fossil fuel usage to make renewable energy sources happen. Yesterday he said EVs make up less than 1% of cars on the roads today. So EVs are not a quick fix solution because they will require renewable energy solutions to charge them before net emissions can be meaningful cut.

Tesla is 8 months behind on shipping some cars in current production due to demand and that is with ZERO EV Federal rebates in place for Tesla buyers.

EVs will happen without rebates but NOT without a grid to charge them.

Throwing billions into EV rebates makes no financial sense when road systems and the power grids are in a mess and needed serious attention Yesterday.

 

[Gale Hawkins]

So having fun trumps hard work for the King is EVs!

Science Reveals How Elon Musk Can Work 120 Hours Per Week. It Has Nothing to Do With Time Management

But everyone can have this one simple thing for free.

www.inc.com

 

[Frankenkubota]

my nephew is a pro athlete living on the west coast working on the east coast. he bought a tesla about 3 years ago, the jelly bean 4 door version....are they all white?

he has his car shipped back and forth and just yesterday i was giving him chit about the car having more miles as a passenger than as an driven automobile.

 

[Egon]

Short-Term Energy Outlook - U.S. Energy Information Administration (EIA)

www.eia.gov

By your own statements, electric will have it's own problems. We just don't have enough solar panels, nor have we blasted off enough mountaintops for wind power, to make up for the perceived loss in oil production.

Mountain tops were removed for coal production.

 

[Frankenkubota]

Mountain tops were removed for coal production.

mr peabody's coal train has hauled it away

 

[Gale Hawkins]

my nephew is a pro athlete living on the west coast working on the east coast. he bought a tesla about 3 years ago, the jelly bean 4 door version....are they all white?

he has his car shipped back and forth and just yesterday i was giving him chit about the car having more miles as a passenger than as an driven automobile.

Currently by default all Tesla's are white. Go for the $2,000 Tesla red color if you want red or $1000 for the other colors.

 

[Grumpycat]

That goes against everything that I ever learned... a Harley rider actually got on my case about that very thing. The funny thing about Harley guys; they may ride and act different than we'd like, but they take care of their machines.

Automobile tire manufacturers tried to FUD you into fear of repairing punctured tires in the late 1970's. Even got the Federal Gubmint to mandate "road hazard" coverage for all new tires sold. Rather than repair the tire cheap, tire dealers would insist on selling you a new pro-rated tire. A few would plug the tire if you insisted. Forgot exactly when but guessing this regulation was revoked under Regan.

Same happens with motorcycle dealers. Harley-Davidson is in the enviable position along with Mercedes-Benz, Porsche, and BMW, that their customer base dare not appear frugal. Many H-D riders are scarred silly if they see the wear bar coming close to the surface of their tire. I ride mine until I see the rubber change color. But I change my own tires so it can be done on the spur of the moment in an hour.

An inexpensive shop charges $50 labor to take the wheel off, mount and balance new tire, re-install. Many charge $100 each wheel. A friend forgot to ask in advance, carried in 2 tires purchased elsewhere, and was charged $300 labor. On a Yamaha at a multi-brand dealer.

Almost no motorcycle dealer will repair a tire. Why should they if they can FUD you into buying a new tire? And when a new tire is $100-$200 and labor is $50-$100 how much are you willing to pay in labor to save a half-worn tire? I plug the tire myself from the outside. With TPMS I know if trouble is brewing before I feel it, have survived punctures many times.

Will admit with self-repaired tires I sometimes have to add 2 PSI every week.

 

[Gale Hawkins]

The title is enough.

 

[lman]

my nephew is a pro athlete living on the west coast working on the east coast. he bought a tesla about 3 years ago, the jelly bean 4 door version....are they all white?

he has his car shipped back and forth and just yesterday i was giving him chit about the car having more miles as a passenger than as an driven automobile.

He probably uses more fuel for transportation in 1 year than I'll use in 10 years. I'm sure the Tesla makes him feel good though.

 

[Jstpssng]

Automobile tire manufacturers tried to FUD you into fear of repairing punctured tires in the late 1970's. Even got the Federal Gubmint to mandate "road hazard" coverage for all new tires sold. Rather than repair the tire cheap, tire dealers would insist on selling you a new pro-rated tire. A few would plug the tire if you insisted. Forgot exactly when but guessing this regulation was revoked under Regan.

Same happens with motorcycle dealers. Harley-Davidson is in the enviable position along with Mercedes-Benz, Porsche, and BMW, that their customer base dare not appear frugal. Many H-D riders are scarred silly if they see the wear bar coming close to the surface of their tire. I ride mine until I see the rubber change color. But I change my own tires so it can be done on the spur of the moment in an hour.

An inexpensive shop charges $50 labor to take the wheel off, mount and balance new tire, re-install. Many charge $100 each wheel. A friend forgot to ask in advance, carried in 2 tires purchased elsewhere, and was charged $300 labor. On a Yamaha at a multi-brand dealer.

Almost no motorcycle dealer will repair a tire. Why should they if they can FUD you into buying a new tire? And when a new tire is $100-$200 and labor is $50-$100 how much are you willing to pay in labor to save a half-worn tire? I plug the tire myself from the outside. With TPMS I know if trouble is brewing before I feel it, have survived punctures many times.

Will admit with self-repaired tires I sometimes have to add 2 PSI every week.

I wasn't referring to mechanics. I was told years ago by a true Harley rider that it's crazy to patch a bike tire.

 

[Gale Hawkins]

I wasn't referring to mechanics. I was told years ago by a true Harley rider that it's crazy to patch a bike tire.

https://www.cnet.com/news/airless-tires-are-finally-coming-in-2024-heres-why-youll-want-a-set/

For those who can't figure out the best way to fix a flat.

 

[Larry Caldwell]

I understand that. Some do seem to expect it to happen overnight though; that's not going to happen.

The median age of passenger vehicles on the road is 14 years. If we go 100% EV sales in 2035, that means half the vehicles on the road will be EV by 2050. How close that estimate is depends on a lot of factors, like how many gas stations close because of declining demand and how much fuel prices rise. We could all end up like Cuba, keeping 60 year old cars running, or urban dwellers could switch to mass transit and ride share. It's certain that city dwellers don't need much of an EV, since they rarely leave the city limits.