Battery based electric vehicles of today and tomorrow.

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I thought the Westinghouse company was long gone? My grandfather was a foreman at Westinghouse from WW-2 until the mid 70’s.
They have changed hands a few times. Toshiba owned for a while. The owning holding company may be in the UK now. Still has American offices for design and support work.
 
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Somewhere back a few days the discussion turned to "pay by the mile" road fees. Now the pilot is just around the corner...


(It might have been in another, similar discussion but it was on TBN. ;) )
That has been coming for at least a decade, if not longer. 50 mpg cars have already put the squeeze on highway tax dollars. A lot of states have toyed with implementing a mileage tax. EV drivers need to pay their share, either in increased vehicle registration fees or mileage tax.
 
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I don't hope GM or Ford go out of business, but would would be fine if either did. The concept of the government bailing out a private business on that scale is scary. If GM had been allowed to fail, it would have boosted others to take their place. Maybe Ford or CjDR, or a new company could have risen from the ashes.

The demand for vehicles wasn't low, just the demand for inferior ones.
When Chrysler went out of business, nobody noticed.
 
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Relatively speaking there is isn't much spent fuel and for some Head-Up-@ss reason the USA does not reprocess used nuclear fuel which still contains 90% of its usable energy but for some reason is no longer optimal for current reactor designs.

Proposed new designs which get more out of a uranium fuel pellet:
Spent fuel rods contain plutonium, which can be extracted chemically without the massive centrifuges. They're concerned about bombs in the wrong hands. We have enough fuel sitting in spent rods to run America for the next century, but we aren't using it.
 
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That has been coming for at least a decade, if not longer. 50 mpg cars have already put the squeeze on highway tax dollars. A lot of states have toyed with implementing a mileage tax. EV drivers need to pay their share, either in increased vehicle registration fees or mileage tax.

I don't disagree with this, but it's the heavy trucks that do the most damage to our roads and highways. Yes, they pay significant fuel taxes, but not commensurate with the damage they do.
 
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I don't disagree with this, but it's the heavy trucks that do the most damage to our roads and highways. Yes, they pay significant fuel taxes, but not commensurate with the damage they do.
I *think* trucks pay significant taxes beyond the taxes on the fuel they use. Whether or not their total tax is proportional to the wear on the roads that they cause is somewhat of a moot point. We essentially pay their taxes as consumers of the products that they are transporting.
 
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I *think* trucks pay significant taxes beyond the taxes on the fuel they use. Whether or not their total tax is proportional to the wear on the roads that they cause is somewhat of a moot point. We essentially pay their taxes as consumers of the products that they are transporting.
Trucking is heavily subsidized by the government, and has grown beyond all reason as a result. Many times, over half the capacity of our freeways is occupied by freight trucking, leading to endless traffic jams. Rail is many times as energy and labor efficient, but America is still limping along on 19th century rail technology. We lost our chance to nationalize our rail system in the 1930s, and it has been deteriorating ever since. Many communities no longer have rail service, which would have been unthinkable a century ago.
 
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Clean coal - :ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:
 
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I *think* trucks pay significant taxes beyond the taxes on the fuel they use. Whether or not their total tax is proportional to the wear on the roads that they cause is somewhat of a moot point. We essentially pay their taxes as consumers of the products that they are transporting.
Not since the trucker strikes of the 1970's. Government is now afraid of truckers.
 
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Each year, more and more coal fired power plants in the US are being decommissioned or converted to natural gas. For coal, the handwriting is on the wall.

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Trucking is heavily subsidized by the government, and has grown beyond all reason as a result. Many times, over half the capacity of our freeways is occupied by freight trucking, leading to endless traffic jams. Rail is many times as energy and labor efficient, but America is still limping along on 19th century rail technology. We lost our chance to nationalize our rail system in the 1930s, and it has been deteriorating ever since. Many communities no longer have rail service, which would have been unthinkable a century ago.
Rail is undependable and slow. Sawmills have tried sending wood that way and gotten burned; once it's on a RR car you lose control over it. Picture loading logs onto a car in June destined for a veneer mill, only to have it unhooked and left on an obscure siding for whatever reason. By the time it gets where it's going two months later your 1/4 million dollars worth of wood has spoiled and become firewood.
 
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Don't worry, we've got your back. Since coal triggers some of the more emotional parts of the nation, were coming up with a plan....

 
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Trucking is heavily subsidized by the government, and has grown beyond all reason as a result. Many times, over half the capacity of our freeways is occupied by freight trucking, leading to endless traffic jams. Rail is many times as energy and labor efficient, but America is still limping along on 19th century rail technology. We lost our chance to nationalize our rail system in the 1930s, and it has been deteriorating ever since. Many communities no longer have rail service, which would have been unthinkable a century ago.

Pain in Trains Falls Mainly on Grain​


They no longer have rail service because they have nothing to be serviced by rail.
 
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They have changed hands a few times. Toshiba owned for a while. The owning holding company may be in the UK now. Still has American offices for design and support work.
Really?
Surprising, I thought they were just some legacy name the Chinese paste on Christmas wall projectors and LED flashlights, but they still build nuclear power plants.
if you say so!
 
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