Battery based electric vehicles of today and tomorrow.

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Lincoln says they're going all EV by 2030 with hands-free driving coming much sooner. What's interesting is they had planned to use the Rivian platform but that's been scrapped even though Ford invested half a billion in Rivian a couple years ago. Makes you wonder if Rivian is maybe having troubles and Ford couldn't wait, or maybe Tesla's lawsuit against Rivian for IP theft has them worried.

 
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Lincoln says they're going all EV by 2030 with hands-free driving coming much sooner. What's interesting is they had planned to use the Rivian platform but that's been scrapped even though Ford invested half a billion in Rivian a couple years ago. Makes you wonder if Rivian is maybe having troubles and Ford couldn't wait, or maybe Tesla's lawsuit against Rivian for IP theft has them worried.


Or, perhaps, Ford understands what happens to the stock price if they claim electric vehicle success by a certain date.

By 2030 most stock options will be exercised and sold.

MoKelly
 
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Lincoln says they're going all EV by 2030 with hands-free driving coming much sooner. What's interesting is they had planned to use the Rivian platform but that's been scrapped even though Ford invested half a billion in Rivian a couple years ago. Makes you wonder if Rivian is maybe having troubles and Ford couldn't wait, or maybe Tesla's lawsuit against Rivian for IP theft has them worried.



Was Bloomberg listening to a different news release? I'm confused...
 
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Wow , Anyone really think oil will go over a hundred again?
Projections I saw said over the summer oil will continue to rise with a crude price drop going into fall and winter as supply ramps up.

I was thinking of reasons why I want an electric car and one i have not seen mentioned much.

It is having to work on oily greasy old cars...

Wife inherited a 1974 Mercedes 280 C gas engine 2 door coupe. and having sat for at least 12 years it is being kind of a ----- to get running and driving.

I have been going thru the now expensive nitrile gloves like crazy because of the grime and still getting crude,,, I mean crud:) all over me. I think it would be nice to get under a vehicle and replace worn parts without getting covered in old oil...not to mention that old gasoline that needs cleaned out from tank, antifreeze due to a stuck thermostat, fuel system, carb rebuilding , and stuck brakes.

Have to wonder what it will be like fixing up a classic electric car in 40-50 years?

ps. Have to take a 200 mile road trip tomorrow and we will be driving our very best MPG vehicle -

the RAM 3500 4 wheel drive Cummins diesel powered truck.

No joke. it gets about 8 MPG better than the Jeep Grand Cherokee.


Where crude hits $100 remains to be seen.

EV's if ever are decades away from moving all gas and diesel ⛽ to museums.

There is no credible scientific data supporting global warming is a man-made issue to any significant degree at best. Claims that EVS will substantially reduce global warming is no proven fact.

Tesla is selling every EV that they can push out of the factories with zero rebates etc. Most likely they will hit the 1 million mark this year of 2021 which is a drop in the bucket of the millions of cars new cars sold each year. Where Tesla will meet the 20 million cars per year manufacturing goal by 2030 remains to be seen.

EVs will rule the world only after cost of ownership is less than ICE vehicles.
 
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Where crude hits $100 remains to be seen.

EV's if ever are decades away from moving all gas and diesel ⛽ to museums.

There is no credible scientific data supporting global warming is a man-made issue to any significant degree at best. Claims that EVS will substantially reduce global warming is no proven fact.

Tesla is selling every EV that they can push out of the factories with zero rebates etc. Most likely they will hit the 1 million mark this year of 2021 which is a drop in the bucket of the millions of cars new cars sold each year. Where Tesla will meet the 20 million cars per year manufacturing goal by 2030 remains to be seen.

EVs will rule the world only after cost of ownership is less than ICE vehicles.
Better watch what you’re saying. Outrageous statements like that can get you cancelled or a butt kickin at the local Starbucks.
 
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So the blackouts are only happening in the middle of the day and the power comes back on in the evening? Then, everyone's house is 115 degrees from no AC all day, people crank their AC and plug their cars in all at the same time?

Kevin
Having fun being so deliberately ignorant? You have never actually researched why a utility invokes rolling blackouts? Or what happens when they do?

For starters study Time Of Use. Electrical power consumption peaks in the afternoon. When demand exceeds capacity the utility is forced to blackout a region for a period of time. Would be stupid to run everyone off because then the utility wouldn't have any paying customers with lots of unsold power. Depends a lot on the utility and the situation but a blackout might be for only 10 minutes then another region goes dark.

Night consumption is about half of daytime consumption so there is little need for nighttime rolling blackouts. The better EVs have onboard timers to schedule charge. Doesn't matter to the EV when it charges so long as it is ready by the time it is needed in the morning.
 
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Idiots writing ad copy don't know carbon and lime are essential components of steel. Might as well try to make ferrite-free steel.
It's not about the carbon in the steel, it's about the carbon released during the production process (specifically the iron-making process) before it becomes steel. Creating a pound of new steel releases up to 2 pounds of carbon into the atmosphere which is why making steel produces almost 10% of CO2 emissions worldwide. If you can develop a cheap and effective way to eliminate that it will have a significant impact.
 
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About 10 years ago I was looking into getting solar panels on a new build house but the Electrical co-op was very restrictive. First you had to pay for two meters monthly, one in going, one out-going, and the rate they paid for the electricity I would produce was so small and there was no rebate for the panels. I figured it would be over 50 years before I broke even. I really jumped on the PR person when they gave a discussion on green energy to one of our clubs. She was very embarrassed and should have been. I hear now they have dropped the need for 2 meters.
 
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If the sun ever shined here, i'd be tempted to do the solar route maybe even add local storage into the mix. I'd like to be more self-sufficient, but too many trees and a tall ridge that blocks sun. Trees i could cut, but that ridge would probably be more of a few kilo-ton job.
 
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Well, looked what happened to phone companies and copper wire. They lost customers to cellular, and then they don't have enough to maintain the copper to land line users, yet they have to buy law.

Same thing will happen to electric utilities. They are required by law to provide power over the lines, but people want to force them to buy electricity from every mom and pop solar install on their private residence. They will not get enough revenue to maintain their lines and equipment.

And gasoline taxes that support roads. EVs don't use gas, but use the roads. They have to come up with an equitable way to tax all road users the same, regardless of what fuel they choose. Guess what that is? Metered mileage tax. You pay according to how many miles you drive AND how much your vehicle weighs. It's the only fair way, yet many are gonna cry WHAAAAAA!!!!
 
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