Battery based electric vehicles of today and tomorrow.

[/pine]

Curious where you found that information. Support for anthropogenic climate change is overwhelming in the scientific community and it has been for a very long time. Even the most pessimistic estimates put it 4 out of 5: Fact Checking The Claim Of 97% Consensus On Anthropogenic Climate Change

LMAO...The only thing that is overwhelming is the amount of gullible people that are not cognizant of the fact that science is the belief in the ignorance of experts...!

BTW...follow the money behind EVERY SINGLE ENTITY that supports AGW...even the ones that lie about their funding and agendas...

If you take out all the convoluted and manipulated climate numbers...the AGW theory has actually been completely debunked...!

 

[/pine]

Supply and demand. Oil companies have decided oil is a loser, so they have cut exploration and development to the bone. Wells run dry all the time. They can pump their available supplies tax free thanks to the depletion allowance, so doubling or tripling the price of crude is a win-win for them. Plus, they don't have to expand or build those expensive refineries, which puts even more profits in their pockets. They are not in the oil business, they are in the profits business.

Meanwhile, Americans will get tired of $6/gallon gasoline or diesel, and EV sales will explode. Welcome to the future.

That cash flow dynamic is not going anywhere...the cost of owning/driving an EV will increase to make up the difference...
The demand for more inefficient batteries, fuel taxes replaced with energy use taxes (for EV owners)...

The dynamic may change but the cost to consumers wont...!

 

[Larry Caldwell]

LMAO...The only thing that is overwhelming is the amount of gullible people that are not cognizant of the fact that science is the belief in the ignorance of experts...!

BTW...follow the money behind EVERY SINGLE ENTITY that supports AGW...even the ones that lie about their funding and agendas...

If you take out all the convoluted and manipulated climate numbers...the AGW theory has actually been completely debunked...!

And smoking doesn't cause lung cancer.

 

[Cat385B]

Canoo has their investor relations day this Thursday at the Texas Motor Speedway. Updates on vehicles, including crash/safety testing, and a chance for outsiders to get their hands on the vehicles. Lifestyle van, delivery van (MPDV), and the truck.
Hopefully will hear reports on possible manufacturing sites and partners, pre order numbers, and updates on timelines for each vehicle.
Rumors about a sedan also sprouted up two weeks ago.
All of the above vehicles use the same chassis.

 

[/pine]

And smoking doesn't cause lung cancer.

And masks work....LMAO...!

 

[Steppenwolfe]

And masks work....LMAO...!

Sure they do... My wearing a mask protects me from the morons that won't. LMAO

 

[fried1765]

And masks work....LMAO...!

Of course they do!
Fauci said they do.....after he said they don't!
Makes me wonder if he is related to John Kerry.

 

[sd455dan]

Since the US Canadian border is not covered in ice sheet obviously we are in a phase of global warming. I am aware that the ice had melted before we started drilling oil wells.

I for one do not get the connection between global warming and EVS as a solution to the problem.

Science tells me that my gas vehicle has efficiency of 20 30% and my EV has efficiency of 80%. That's what drives me to EVS instead of ice vehicles when feasible but we're far far from EVS proficient at meeting all transportation needs in total today.



Dino juice fossil fuel crude oil whatever you want to call it will run out some day and I'd like to make that last as long as we can for lubrication roads etc.

The coming hundred dollar Plus oil prices will cease this needless debate over climate change because we'll do it for economical reasons only.

Wow , Anyone really think oil will go over a hundred again?
Projections I saw said over the summer oil will continue to rise with a crude price drop going into fall and winter as supply ramps up.

I was thinking of reasons why I want an electric car and one i have not seen mentioned much.

It is having to work on oily greasy old cars...

Wife inherited a 1974 Mercedes 280 C gas engine 2 door coupe. and having sat for at least 12 years it is being kind of a ----- to get running and driving.

I have been going thru the now expensive nitrile gloves like crazy because of the grime and still getting crude,,, I mean crud all over me. I think it would be nice to get under a vehicle and replace worn parts without getting covered in old oil...not to mention that old gasoline that needs cleaned out from tank, antifreeze due to a stuck thermostat, fuel system, carb rebuilding , and stuck brakes.

Have to wonder what it will be like fixing up a classic electric car in 40-50 years?

ps. Have to take a 200 mile road trip tomorrow and we will be driving our very best MPG vehicle -

the RAM 3500 4 wheel drive Cummins diesel powered truck.

No joke. it gets about 8 MPG better than the Jeep Grand Cherokee.

 

[Cat385B]

I sure hope that Ford is not going to base the Lightning towing range based off this test:

 

[buckeyefarmer]

We had some parking spaces where I used to work labeled “energy efficient vehicles”. There was no further definition of what it meant, nor any enforcement of any kind, just a feel good thing for the building owners.
I parked my Honda there, because it was energy efficient, especially compared to my truck. I parked there over a year.
One day a Prius prick put a nasty note on my windshield, that this was only for “energy efficient “ vehicles. Course a coworker saw who did it and told me. So I took the note, and wrote “my Honda is a very energy efficient vehicle”, and put the note on the wall in front of mr prick. ( parked beside me, so I obviously didn’t take his entitled space).
And I continued parking there till I left that job.

 

[buckeyefarmer]

Global warming is only one of the reasons to quit burning fossil fuels.

I will just pretend you didn’t actually say that nonsense.

 

[Cat385B]

The lack of respect and disdain shown in this thread for people’s opinions that differ from their own is sad.
Climb off your high horse, grab a beer, and shut up.

 

[Hay Dude]

Curious where you found that information. Support for anthropogenic climate change is overwhelming in the scientific community and it has been for a very long time. Even the most pessimistic estimates put it 4 out of 5: Fact Checking The Claim Of 97% Consensus On Anthropogenic Climate Change

“fact checking” Lol

 

[fried1765]

We had some parking spaces where I used to work labeled “energy efficient vehicles”. There was no further definition of what it meant, nor any enforcement of any kind, just a feel good thing for the building owners.
I parked my Honda there, because it was energy efficient, especially compared to my truck. I parked there over a year.
One day a Prius prick put a nasty note on my windshield, that this was only for “energy efficient “ vehicles. Course a coworker saw who did it and told me. So I took the note, and wrote “my Honda is a very energy efficient vehicle”, and put the note on the wall in front of mr prick. ( parked beside me, so I obviously didn’t take his entitled space).
And I continued parking there till I left that job.

Your "prick" was just virtue signaling.
Trying to show how much more "informed" he is than you.

 

[Larry Caldwell]

The lack of respect and disdain shown in this thread for people’s opinions that differ from their own is sad.
Climb off your high horse, grab a beer, and shut up.

Don't take thing so personally. It's not like the denialists are relevant. It's going to happen whether they like it or not. Meanwhile, if we rub their noses in the facts often enough, maybe something will sink in.

 

[Hay Dude]

Don't take thing so personally. It's not like the denialists are relevant. It's going to happen whether they like it or not. Meanwhile, if we rub their noses in the facts often enough, maybe something will sink in.

You’re the only one inferring any questioning of your facts as signs of stupidity.
Everyone else is being pretty cool.

 

[Hay Dude]

Would you like to explain what this has to do with battery powered vehicles?

As nearly as I could tell, Fauci's email was factually correct. Masks are to keep infected people from spewing their disease on other people. This was reported ad infinitum in the MSM.

He was about as correct as passing gas loudly at a funeral.
Was he also “right” about Hydroxychloroquine?

 

[Hay Dude]

A unilateral global warming fix is simply feel good stuff!
When India, and China act to participate in a fix, there might be meaningful improvements.
China is building one coal fired electric plant per week,.... while the USA is busy choking down 25HP+ tractors.
Pure childhood (think Greta Thunberg) fantasy!

You can’t make this stuff up!
We go broke on a theory that if you disagree with, you’re labeled with horrible epitaphs, while those sworn to destroy us build the very power plants we are closing to “save the climate”.