Battery based electric vehicles of today and tomorrow.

[goeduck]

Our 1970 had bench seats and 3 on the tree. My wife could sit next to me. I miss that aspect of older cars. I could put my arm around her and shift left handed or she could shift for me. She had a 71 Chevelle with bench seats. When she drove, I'd sit next to her. People gave me the weird eye for that.

Better seen getting frisky in the front seat of a Chevelle than a Chevette.

Chevelle was not a bad looking car.

 

[lman]

Read in the local rag that 'Lordstown Motors' probably won't ever produce the electric pickup truck they want to make... reason... Not enough capital. I see their stock has sunk to almost nothing.

Just another case where millions of dollars went to people that never produced anything. I'm sure we'll see more of that associated with EV manufacturing.

 

[Hay Dude]

Read in the local rag that 'Lordstown Motors' probably won't ever produce the electric pickup truck they want to make... reason... Not enough capital. I see their stock has sunk to almost nothing.

If these electric trucks are the planet saving miracle they are touted to be, you’d think there would be people competing to give them capital or low interest loans to build them.

 

[Frankenkubota]

We were at a botanical garden in Stillwater, OK a few weeks ago and I noticed a Husqvarna robotic mower docked in a corner near a building. The lawn in the gardens looked nice. I've never seen one in operation. It would be tempting to have one in our small backyard. I'm also tempted to get a robotic vacuum at home, but I wonder how many cat toys it would eat.

i've got a roomba and, imho, like many solutions, it does about a 90% job. i'm always resweeping.

no big deal, i'm going to knit a dog hair sweater.

 

[3930dave]

I honestly hoped there was a better story by now, than this.....

The Race To Crack Battery Recycling—Before It’s Too Late

Rgds, D.

 

[goeduck]

I am not seeing the benefit to an EV for a low mileage driver or anyone who likes more than 1 vehicle like I do (we have 5). The warranty on the batteries is, what, 10 years? My wife's car is a 2015 with about 15,000 miles on it and none of the other 4 get many miles either.

In this pandemic world (we are not done with this one and it will not be the last one) many people are going to be driving less. People are working at home more and driving fewer miles. My wife has underlying conditions underlying her other conditions and she is saying she will not be going out nearly as much in the future.

 

[MossRoad]

i've got a roomba and, imho, like many solutions, it does about a 90% job. i'm always resweeping.

no big deal, i'm going to knit a dog hair sweater.

Blech!

 

[MossRoad]

I am not seeing the benefit to an EV for a low mileage driver or anyone who likes more than 1 vehicle like I do (we have 5). The warranty on the batteries is, what, 10 years? My wife's car is a 2015 with about 15,000 miles on it and none of the other 4 get many miles either.

In this pandemic world (we are not done with this one and it will not be the last one) many people are going to be driving less. People are working at home more and driving fewer miles. My wife has underlying conditions underlying her other conditions and she is saying she will not be going out nearly as much in the future.

My wife and I both have short commutes to work. I do about 11 miles a day. She did about 10 (now she commutes to the living room for the past year, working from home). We could really do OK with an electric vehicle or even 2 of them (we always have 3 vehicles), if the overall price of ownership was comparable to an internal combustion powered vehicle.

I've had two ICE powered vehicles lose engines in the past 2 years. Bodies were still good, so we re-engined for around $2500 each. How much does a battery pack cost for an electric car cost? I'm seeing $3000-$7000.

I'd really have to put pencil to paper and figure all the costs associated with both types. But I can see us owning at least one electric car in the next 10 years or so if the used market seems favorable.

 

[Gale Hawkins]

I am not seeing the benefit to an EV for a low mileage driver or anyone who likes more than 1 vehicle like I do (we have 5). The warranty on the batteries is, what, 10 years? My wife's car is a 2015 with about 15,000 miles on it and none of the other 4 get many miles either.

In this pandemic world (we are not done with this one and it will not be the last one) many people are going to be driving less. People are working at home more and driving fewer miles. My wife has underlying conditions underlying her other conditions and she is saying she will not be going out nearly as much in the future.

EVs will come into their hay day when today's 30 year olds turn 45 and today's green EV technology gets more ripe.

 

[goeduck]

There definitely will need to be a lot of thought put into the decision to go EV or not and the fewer vehicles owned the better since the clocks continue to tick away on a battery even if it is not driven as much.

There is some truth to that in an ICE engine too, but if I drive them once a week or so I never have had a problem.

As for ICE engine failures, I have been fortunate. Never a major engine repair ever and I have been driving for a long time. I had a timing belt break at an intersection once if that counts.

 

[Gale Hawkins]

Forget Dogecoin: Electric Vehicles Are the Next Millionaire-Maker Industry | The Motley Fool

5 years ago those who had the cash to buy a new Tesla but instead of buying the car they bought Tesla stock could millionaires today

 

[MossRoad]

There definitely will need to be a lot of thought put into the decision to go EV or not and the fewer vehicles owned the better since the clocks continue to click away on a battery even if it is not driven as much.

There is some truth to that in an ICE engine too, but if I drive them once a week or so I never have had a problem.

As for ICE engine failures, I have been fortunate. Never a major engine repair ever and I have been driving for a long time. I had a timing belt break at an intersection once if that counts.

One of our cars, a Malibu with an ecotec engine, broke a timing chain guide or gear, and since it's an interference engine, it ate the valves. Toast!

The other, an Impala with a 3.6 LFX engine had something similar go wrong in the valve timing and ate that engine as well. Toast!

I've only had two vehicles with interference engines and both interfered!

Now I have a third in my new to me 2003 Suburban. Fingers crossed.

 

[5030]

If these electric trucks are the planet saving miracle they are touted to be, you’d think there would be people competing to give them capital or low interest loans to build them.

Maybe the people with money to invest are smarter than posters like Gale Hawkins....

 

[txdon]

That reminds me of the time BIL took a small kicker boat out on the straits of Juan de Fuca during high tide going west. Tide turned and he almost got swept out to sea. That was a gas boat.

The electric boat that that was rescued off the edge of the dam had a top speed of 5MPH.

 

[airbiscuit]

Operator error

 

[txdon]

Operator error

"Police said four women were on the electric boat when it got swept up in the current near the dam and wasn't strong enough to escape, according to FOX 7 of Austin."

 

[Gale Hawkins]

EVs, batteries and the multi-million-tonne scrap heap

Thankfully this is a concern that is getting attention.

 

[fried1765]

i can only imagine the size of the solar panel and battery storage needed to charge a bunch of tesla cars at the same time. personally i cant see how they can do it. holy cow, $5k in power bills. that sucks. i average about $150 per month... higher in summer,lower in winter. i just have not seen the figures on paper to justify solar at my home. but if i was forking out $5k i would sharpen the pencil.

my customers here that are on solar generally sink $40 grand into the systems (i have placed generators on their systems). it would take me nearly 23 years to recoup the money, and before then id be needing panel repairs and new batteries.

You are quite correct, but those who act or think like Prius owners don't really care about the initial cost.
For them, it is often about virtue signaling!

 

[txdon]

You are quite correct, but those who act or think like Prius owners don't really care about the initial cost.
For them, it is often about virtue signaling!

Pointless virtue signaling.

MarketWatch: Driving Electric Cars Is ‘Pointless Virtue Signaling’

Efforts to rein in global warming by eating no meat or driving electric cars are completely ineffective, states a sobering essay.

www.breitbart.com

 

[Hay Dude]

You are quite correct, but those who act or think like Prius owners don't really care about the initial cost.
For them, it is often about virtue signaling!

AMEN