Don'tcha' wish they'd just STOP 'Improving' things?

[ovrszd]

Ditto on the stupid consoles! People like to pretend they are in a cockpit I guess.

I remember in the late 80s, my Dad complaining that all the passenger cars were pancake like.

Now you get in someones new car and don't know what to say. You can't very well say, yup, another PLASTIC sheit box!

Then you see their new house and it has all the creature comforts of a gymnasium.

Jealousy is such a shallow thing....

 

[Industrial Toys]

I may be jeaulous of certain things. But certainly not that. I can't even imagine buying a new vehicle because what I see in the show room, I couldn't imagine spending money on. Maybe if it was the very basic, entry level product and their was s huge cost saving for that level and lack of comfort.

 

[ovrszd]

I may be jeaulous of certain things. But certainly not that. I can't even imagine buying a new vehicle because what I see in the show room, I couldn't imagine spending money on. Maybe if it was the very basic, entry level product and their was s huge cost saving for that level and lack of comfort.

Calling someone's new car a plastic sheit box borders on jealousy. As does saying someone's new house has the comforts of a gymnasium. Not being able to imagine spending money on either is entirely different. So rather than discrediting what they have purchased, you might be better served simply saying you can't buy that.

 

[Industrial Toys]

You don't seem to understand. You couldn't give me those things as I consider them hideous. You never read what I write. I don't SAY that, but am thinking it.

When I grew up, you would buy a brand new house with hardwood and when you could afford it, cover it with wall to wall carpet. To "me" that's comfort. Warm, cozy and quiet. A gymnasium just isn't that.

Don't even get me started on open concept houses.

 

[dragoneggs]

Oh now, let's not go that far.

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I had a '68 GT Fastback and a '99 Cobra. Wish I could put that Cobra engine in my old '68!

 

[Industrial Toys]

I fondly remember my friends new 76 Olds Cutlass Supreme. That thing was incredibly comfy. I would defy anyone to show me a present day 100K vehicle that comes even close in comfort.

 

[JethroB]

I fondly remember my friends new 76 Olds Cutlass Supreme. That thing was incredibly comfy. I would defy anyone to show me a present day 100K vehicle that comes even close in comfort.

I had a 1977 (same as 76) new two door. $6,000, list was $6400. I still have the window price sticker. A very fine car in its day. But it does not compare to me to a nice full size SUV of today for comfort, convenience, and reliability. 350 4Bbl, am/fm 8-track, vinyl bucket seats. No cup holder, ha.

 

[Industrial Toys]

This thing was a four door and as plush as any lazyboy you have ever seen.

Nowadays luxury is when they start putting chrome over various of the plastic dash board components!

 

[JethroB]

Yeah, a neighbor had those plush cloth seats in his, ‘‘twas nice. I drove mine for 8 years and 110,000 miles and sold it for $1200.
I believe our memories play tricks on us though. My parents yard used to be HUGE when I was mowing it with a push Murray.

 

[ovrszd]

You don't seem to understand. You couldn't give me those things as I consider them hideous. You never read what I write. I don't SAY that, but am thinking it.

When I grew up, you would buy a brand new house with hardwood and when you could afford it, cover it with wall to wall carpet. To "me" that's comfort. Warm, cozy and quiet. A gymnasium just isn't that.

Don't even get me started on open concept houses.

I understand.

I wouldn't consider buying a new truck. But that doesn't mean I should slam the new truck that my neighbor bought.

I wouldn't consider buying an electric Gator. But that doesn't mean I should slam the person that does for doing so.

 

[ovrszd]

I had a '68 GT Fastback and a '99 Cobra. Wish I could put that Cobra engine in my old '68!

Wouldn't that rock!!!!

 

[Diggin It]

An 'improvement' that went away ....

I had a '73 Malibu with the swivel buckets. Made it lots easier to get in and out of. Whatever happened to that idea? Do any 'new' cars have it?

 

[ovrszd]

I fondly remember my friends new 76 Olds Cutlass Supreme. That thing was incredibly comfy. I would defy anyone to show me a present day 100K vehicle that comes even close in comfort.

Here's a pic of my wife's Jeep. She bought it used with 40K miles for $30K. In comparison, your old Cutlass can't even spell comfort.

 

[ovrszd]

I had a 1977 (same as 76) new two door. $6,000, list was $6400. I still have the window price sticker. A very fine car in its day. But it does not compare to me to a nice full size SUV of today for comfort, convenience, and reliability. 350 4Bbl, am/fm 8-track, vinyl bucket seats. No cup holder, ha.

Yep.

My Son's first car was a '76 Cutlass Brougham 455V8, cloth interior, every option. Was a sweet car. No comparison to today.

 

[ovrszd]

Yeah, a neighbor had those plush cloth seats in his, 荘twas nice. I drove mine for 8 years and 110,000 miles and sold it for $1200.
I believe our memories play tricks on us though. My parents yard used to be HUGE when I was mowing it with a push Murray.

Yep.

I remember my '69 Mustang as fast. And it was compared to other cars in the community at the time. Won many drag race. Terry's Hemi Grand Cherokee would eat it for lunch.

 

[JethroB]

Here's a pic of my wife's Jeep. She bought it used with 40K miles for $30K. In comparison, your old Cutlass can't even spell comfort.


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I would have to argue the ride comfort of the Cutlass over the Jeep though. Sucker was heavy and just floated down the road. 1977 was the last year of the big GM cars.

 

[ovrszd]

An 'improvement' that went away ....

I had a '73 Malibu with the swivel buckets. Made it lots easier to get in and out of. Whatever happened to that idea? Do any 'new' cars have it?

None that I know of. My wife had a Monte Carlo that did that. Somewhere in the early 60s Thunderbird's steering column swung to the right to improve ingress/egress.

 

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Auto Makers Rethink the Car With Swivel Seats, Self-Cleaning Buttons and Window Art - WSJ

 

[ovrszd]

I would have to argue the ride comfort of the Cutlass over the Jeep though. Sucker was heavy and just floated down the road. 1977 was the last year of the big GM cars.

I'll take that argument.

No comparison.

Every single element of the driving of those two vehicles the Jeep would win. Every single one.

Going back to those days, I agree, the heavier the car the better they rode. The manufacturers hadn't figured out how to design a smooth suspension system yet. So they added ballast.

Then the economics of it all hit them in the behind. Enter Japanese small cars. Our love of huge tuna boats is what opened the door to imports. We still pay for that mistake today. In mid size and under the foreign market still provides the best bang for the dollar.

 

[ovrszd]

Auto Makers Rethink the Car With Swivel Seats, Self-Cleaning Buttons and Window Art - WSJ

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