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[ultrarunner]

Yep the log trucks always make downtown Olympia interesting plus the train spur...

Logs shift and upset... makes the news and then letters to the Olympian follow.

 

[Industrial Toys]

John Deere as I recall actually put an axle with conventional steering, along with articulation, on one of their smaller wheel loaders, to improve stability.

TOTALLY, destroys the whole ROBUST, SIMPLE, SOLID AXLE idea of a wheel loader.

 

[4570Man]

John Deere as I recall actually put an axle with conventional steering, along with articulation, on one of their smaller wheel loaders, to improve stability.

TOTALLY, destroys the whole ROBUST, SIMPLE, SOLID AXLE idea of a wheel loader.

I’ve seen some of those small loader that steer with both axels and don’t articulate.

 

[Industrial Toys]

I have seen older larger ones like Michigan, but not newer ones. JCB makes an all wheel steer TLB, or did, but I don't put that in a class of wheel loader. Mostly because you don't have that great visibility, with conventional engine out front design.

 

[Peter 315]

I have seen older larger ones like Michigan, but not newer ones. JCB makes an all wheel steer TLB, or did, but I don't put that in a class of wheel loader. Mostly because you don't have that great visibility, with conventional engine out front design.

Here's some small loaders All Wheel Steer.......All Wheel Steer Loaders | Wacker Neuson

 

[Industrial Toys]

Interesting, but a terrible deviation from an articulated machine. IMO.

I had a 12 ton ZOOM BOOM with all wheel steer and it would rarely drive straight. Didn't have all the electronics and sensors, they have today. That's a mixed blessing. Goes straight when it works or doesn't work at all probably.

 

[4570Man]

Interesting, but a terrible deviation from an articulated machine. IMO.

I had a 12 ton ZOOM BOOM with all wheel steer and it would rarely drive straight. Didn't have all the electronics and sensors, they have today. That's a mixed blessing. Goes straight when it works or doesn't work at all probably.

I’ve never had a problem with 4 wheel steer machines. Also most Telhandlers are 4 wheel steer. I’m not a big fan of articulated loaders although I don’t have much experience with them. They throw the bucket/forks way sideways to move the loader a tiny bit. It makes loading pallets on a truck a pain.

 

[Industrial Toys]

Really? I love them. Like having sideshift. Very handy to reach in the cab, turn the wheel and move the loader one way or another, sometimes just to line up a chain or sling.

But, you have to watch that stability. Also, you can get yourself into places you can't get out of. 4 Wheel crab steer on the zoom boom has gotten me out of problems.

 

[4570Man]

Really? I love them. Like having sideshift. Very handy to reach in the cab, turn the wheel and move the loader one way or another.

But, you have to watch that stability. Also, you can get yourself into places you can't get out of. 4 Wheel crab steer on the zoom boom has gotten me out of problems.

I was using a decent size loader with 8’ forks on it. I would have probably gotten use to it but a tiny touch of the wheel moved the forks sideways a foot.

 

[Loaderman22]

I love my little Swinger, does a great job of getting in & out of tight spots. Also if I have a log sideways, I can weave it around trees if it's wider than the trail.

 

[truckdiagnostics]

Which previous post? It went on the road about 3 miles. The actual highway zero miles. I don稚 like to haul cut up wood. I壇 much rather throw or on my bigger truck in logs. That load on the ton truck was my dad痴 work. View attachment 665912

I can do that too on my 3/4 ton with timbrin helper spring never sags. I have loaded(with trailer) my little 3/4 ton to the point where I would have to use 4 low with it in lower gear to get started moving. If I could have found a nice 3/4 ton suburban would have gone that way. Liked my suburban. For the same reasons you do. Switched to a Chrysler mini van. You can get the 10 length of down spout in and not look stupid carrying it on my 26 deck over trailer. Which I have done. If I had to go down to one vehicle I would keep the van and pay somebody to deliver the block. needs also change as you get older.

 

[lilranch2001]

I have never liked vans, delivered for a pharmacy in my mid teens, used a late 60's ford van, it was fun but very light rear ended, did a couple 360's on rainy days zipping on my rounds around town back then in it.

Im not sure why PUs do not seem light rear ended......

My personal vehicle all my life has been PUs and CJ's wives had had cars n SUVs

 

[Industrial Toys]

We had a CJ7 in the Family for a few years 79 I think. I found that the most useless and impractical vehicle they could possibly make. Terrible fuel economy and not enough room for a 24 of beer!

I too, hated driving vans for work. Especially when the bosses were L-Cheapo and ordered not an optional window in the thing.

 

[lilranch2001]

I like CJ's, had a total of 3 different ones.

Loved em both summer n winter!

I guess the most beer I ever drink is a couple in the evening, so a case of beer isnt very important to me!

 

[Code54]

Absolutely love the CJ/Wranglers! They are super maneuverable, excellent off road, and if you yank the back seat out fairly roomy for the small footprint. We take our Wrangler on vacation all the time and it is fun to drive, and yes, it gets about 17mpg, but hey, it is fun to drive!

 

[lilranch2001]

Yea, with the top and doors off, they are like go-carts for the highways!

 

[Jstpssng]

View attachment 666231Absolutely love the CJ/Wranglers! They are super maneuverable, excellent off road, and if you yank the back seat out fairly roomy for the small footprint. We take our Wrangler on vacation all the time and it is fun to drive, and yes, it gets about 17mpg, but hey, it is fun to drive!

Do you mean that you actually use them as the off road vehicle they were designed for?

I can attest that pickups can be light in the rear, for years all that I drove was 2wd F150s which are completely useless in snow. My Rangers and now my Colorado are all the same way... useless on gravel hills until I lock in the front end.

 

[Code54]

Not as a hard core wheeler, I have a Honda Talon we use for that but we are very rural so streams, dirt, some snow, and gravel are par for the course. One thing I really like is I can back up into our gravel driveway with the Jeep in 2 wheel drive. The trucks always have be be in 4 wheel drive or they are digging holes.

 

[Industrial Toys]

CJs, Roomy?

 

[lilranch2001]

Its a Jeep thing......

And personally I would take a like condition CJ-7 over any wrangler......