Need help identifying the year/model of this NH tractor and getting it to start.

[johnny1234]

Ah nvm, found them in the left nav menu at that page. Thanks!

 

[airbiscuit]

I updated the Link for the TC29


New Holland (TC29) - 3 CYL COMPACT TRACTOR (9/98-12/2) Parts Diagrams

 

[johnny1234]

Thanks, got it bookmarked.

Another question I had, and I feel a bit silly having to ask it...how do I remove the oil fill cap next to the fuel cap? I sat there for several minutes trying to figure out how to open it and either it's really tight or it doesn't come off the way I think it does.

 

[airbiscuit]

See 10:48

 

[johnny1234]

Yep, cap is just very stuck. Thanks again.

 

[fried1765]

Re: Need help identifying this tractor and getting it to start.

It looks like a Japanese tractor sabana ? possibly.

"Sabana" = Shibaura??

 

[fried1765]

I'm trying to fix a tractor, left behind by my father in law that passed away recently, so my MIL can go back to using it to tend to their property. I was told that it stopped starting with the key one day so FIL was bump starting it with the solenoid I think, and eventually the starter went out and he possibly replaced it but determined the replacement was the wrong type. I found a fairly clean looking starter in it, not tightened down and not wired up, and I took that to Autozone and they confirmed it's good. However, I have no idea if it's the right starter because I have no idea what year or model this tractor is. MIL has been trying to find all the paperwork and title but no luck yet. She desperately needs this tractor and its brush hog up and running soon.

After looking it over all I've been able to conclude is that it has a starter half-installed(only one bolt tightened, not wired up) and when I took that starter to Autozone it tested fine. I have no idea if it's the right starter because I have no idea what model this tractor is. Once I figure all that out and can get a starter for it, or if this starter is correct and works, I then need to figure out why it won't start with the key which I assume is probably caused by an open or bad killswitch somewhere.

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Any ideas on year/model, and any tips on sorting out the no-start issue?

"paperwork and title but no luck yet"???

USA owned tractors do not have titles.
Canadian owned tractors do.
Your profile does not show any location.

 

[johnny1234]

"paperwork and title but no luck yet"???

USA owned tractors do not have titles.
Canadian owned tractors do.
Your profile does not show any location.

USA, and wasn't aware they didn't have titles. Thanks.

According to a previous post, looks like it's an '03 TC29D.

 

[airbiscuit]

Tractor Number: G040849
Unit: 3A08D

There is a 2004 on TractorHouse with a serial number that is close to yours, so I am guessing it is a 2004

2004 NEW HOLLAND TC29D
Less than 40 HP Tractors
For Sale Price: USD $15,000
Hours: 1037
Drive: 4 WD
Engine Horsepower: 29 hp
Serial Number: G040659

 

[RickB]

There is a 2004 on TractorHouse with a serial number that is close to yours, so I am guessing it is a 2004

2004 NEW HOLLAND TC29D
Less than 40 HP Tractors
For Sale Price: USD $15,000
Hours: 1037
Drive: 4 WD
Engine Horsepower: 29 hp
Serial Number: G040659

The unit code dates the tractor. As stated the build date is Jan 8 2003.

 

[johnny1234]

Got out there this morning and put the charged battery in. When trying to start with key several things are happening, but it's not starting.

If I turn the key to the ON position the glow plug light slow blinks, doesn't go away.

If I turn the key to the ON position a red right in the right side of the dash comes on, glass is so foggy I can't really tell, but I think it's a PTO related light. I'm guessing this is being caused by one of the 2-3 killswitches under the left fender so I can test those next time I'm out there.

If I turn the key past on to start, I hear a single click, but no start.

I was able to take my push button starter tool connected to low-voltage terminal of starter and positive terminal of battery, key on, and tractor starts and runs. Did not attempt to drive because all of the lever/control labels are gone. I have no idea what position any of the levers are in and couldn't find photos online to reference. Also couldn't find an online version of the operator's manual that didn't cost money so I'm assuming I'll just need to grab one off ebay.

Noticed two hydraulic leaks. One leak is where there is a 3" rubber hose connecting two metal lines together just below the starter(this line runs to a cooler mounted near the top/front of the radiator...hydraulic or trans?), and the other leak is a pinhole in one of the short hoses on the bucket.

On to the photos...

Leak #1 from the left hose clamp, should be easy enough to fix. Is this carry trans fluid to the cooler in front of the radiator, or hydraulic fluid for the pto/bucket?


Leak #2 from one of the bucket hoses. Visually, this hose is in the worst shape so I can see about just replacing it for now.


Unknown switch. Doesn't light up when on. All I can think of is that it's for the rear-facing headlight/spotlight mounted on the right side of the canopy frame.


The left side dash lights that come on when key is turned to ON position. Glow plug light never goes off, just blinks.


The right side dash light that comes on when key is turned to ON position. I'm assuming this is causing the tractor not to start with the key.


Left side controls, no labels.


Right side controls, no labels.


I wouldn't be opposed to just taking a paint marker to draw the control lever info instead of dropping $100 on new lever decals, but I'd need good photos of both sets of levers and their decals from someone that owns a similar model with the same levers.

 

[JDAOWNER]

YOU CAN FIGURE OUT WHAT THE LEVERS DO BY THE LETTERING ON TOP OF THE KNOBS---IN LAST PIC 3PH IS THREE POINT HITCH (TPH). LITTLE BLACK KNOB IN THE SLOT IS A LOCK THAT IS ADJUSTABLE TO SET THE HIGTH OF THE TPH . FWD IS FOUR WHEEL DRIVE--HI PTO IS PTO SPEED, IT MIGHT HAVE A TWO SPEED PTO-(-POWER TAKE OFF)--FWD (FOUR WHEEL DRIVE ) CHANGES DRIVE FROM 4WHEEL TO 2WHEEL. CAN'T MAKE OUT OTHER LETTERING. IF YOU POST YOU WILL GET SOME HELP.

 

[johnny1234]

The tops of the levers on the right side...REMOTE and 3 PT. The tops of the levers on the left side...RANGE, MID PTO, REAR PTO, FWD.

I have never owned a tractor or operated one other than driving my dad's JD once or twice so I'm lost on most of this stuff. I didn't touch any of the levers while the tractor was running because I want to know what they do before I start messing with them.

I'm assuming 3 PT raises and lowers the brush hog mounted on the back. No idea what REMOTE is for. No idea what RANGE is for. REAR PTO and MID PTO I'm guessing are to control mid and rear power take off(on/off). FWD, as you pointed out, would switch between 2wd/4wd, honestly had no idea this thing was 4wd. Shows how much I know about these things but it's close enough to working on a vehicle that I figured I'd get it going again for my MIL somehow, haha.

 

[JDAOWNER]

RANGE IS LIKELY THE GEAR YOU SELECT HI-LO RANGE FOR SPEED. IT MAY HAVE THREE RANGES. THE PTO LEVER IS TO SELECT WHICH ONE YOU WANT TO RUN. THERE MIGHT BE A SWITCH TO START THE PTO. I'VE NEVER RUN A NH SO I'M NOT SURE. MAYBE REMOTE IS SO YOU CAN MOW FROM YOUR FRONT PORCH!!!!:laughing:

 

[TractorGuy]

Saw a couple of videos on similar models that might help you.

This one identifies a fuse that may be blown. He has a TC25
Fuse location on New Holland TC25 - YouTube


This one is a TC33D hydro and the guy goes through the controls.
New Holland Tractor - TC33D 4x4 Boomer Compact Tractor - Start-up and Operation - YouTube

 

[RickB]

When you figure out what all those levers do and you get them all in the proper position the tractor might well start like it is supposed to.

 

[johnny1234]

Watched that video and a few other recommended videos and determined the following...


The black toggle switch with green light on the left side of the dash is cruise control.

REMOTE lever is for controlling the rear remote hydraulic, which isn't in use.

The MID PTO and REAR PTO levers are for power take off engage/disengage.

The FWD lever is for 2wd and 4wd.

The 3PT lever is hitch raise/lower.

The RANGE lever is the hydrostatic gear range. 1, 2, 3 and two neutrals.

Left pedal is clutch.

Right pedal is split brake.

Right rocker pedal is forward/reverse.

The bigger of the two PTO lights, the one that comes on when I try to start with key, I believe is the rear PTO so that should narrow the no-start with key issue down to a single killswitch. I'm pretty sure there is a video about troubleshooting this issue that I watched a few weeks ago that explained which killswitch it is under that left fender.

The fluid leak on the left side under the starter is a hydrostatic line that runs up to the hydrostatic cooler on front of the radiator. Didn't really pay attention to color/condition of the fluid earlier, so I have no idea if it needs flushed/refilled.

The hydraulic leak on one of the front boom hoses looked a bit milky, so the hydraulic system will need to be flushed/refilled after making all the needed hose/connector repairs.

Fortunately a friend of a friend is a tractor guy and said he'd tag along with me when I go out to my MIL's again next weekend to help me figure out what all it needs, get the right parts ordered, and help me get it going again.

 

[johnny1234]

When you figure out what all those levers do and you get them all in the proper position the tractor might well start like it is supposed to.

They are actually all in the correct positions to start the tractor now that I know what they do, so there is definitely something wrong with the rear PTO kill switch.

 

[airbiscuit]

PTO, Mid PTO and Four Wheel Drive are all OFF in the UP Position

 

[airbiscuit]

Watched that video and a few other recommended videos and determined the following...


The black toggle switch with green light on the left side of the dash is cruise control.

REMOTE lever is for controlling the rear remote hydraulic, which isn't in use.

The MID PTO and REAR PTO levers are for power take off engage/disengage. Engage and Disengage the Rear PTO Switch and see it that solves the problem.

The FWD lever is for 2wd and 4wd. It is currently in 4wd

The 3PT lever is hitch raise/lower.

The RANGE lever is the hydrostatic gear range. 1, 2, 3 and two neutrals.

Left pedal is clutch.

Right pedal is split brake.

Right rocker pedal is forward/reverse.

The bigger of the two PTO lights, the one that comes on when I try to start with key, I believe is the rear PTO so that should narrow the no-start with key issue down to a single killswitch. I'm pretty sure there is a video about troubleshooting this issue that I watched a few weeks ago that explained which killswitch it is under that left fender.

The fluid leak on the left side under the starter is a hydrostatic line that runs up to the hydrostatic cooler on front of the radiator. Didn't really pay attention to color/condition of the fluid earlier, so I have no idea if it needs flushed/refilled.

The hydraulic leak on one of the front boom hoses looked a bit milky, so the hydraulic system will need to be flushed/refilled after making all the needed hose/connector repairs. Take the hose off and to an auto parts store - They can make a new one for you.

Fortunately a friend of a friend is a tractor guy and said he'd tag along with me when I go out to my MIL's again next weekend to help me figure out what all it needs, get the right parts ordered, and help me get it going again.

It sounds like it would be a good idea to replace the hydraulic fluid and filter.