New PJ, DE model, dump on order.

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This is a new model for PJ and comes standard with a 7'x16'x3' 7 gauge bed, 20k GVW. Probably more trailer than a home owner would need, however, I haul commercial so bigger is better. My current trailer is a Lamar 7'x16'x3' 7 gauge floor, 16k GVW. I will keep it as my secondary unit and sold my Load Trail 7'x16'x2' 10 gauge, 14k GVW trailer.

I live in a somewhat remote area so it is hard to look at trailers. I have to rely on manufactures web sites, stocking dealers and forums for my research. I think for the money this will be a good heavy duty trailer. I have found that over the years with my dumps and flatbeds it is hard to find a trailer without some faults. If we could combine about 4 manufactures into one....

Here is a link to the build and dealer options. I also added primer, power up/down and gravity down unit with two batteries. I wanted the telescopic cylinder and the 36" steps but they don't offer them yet, in the DE model. I have a wireless remote on my Lamar but am less than satisfied with it, so I ordered from parts, a 25' cord for the standard hand held remote for this trailer. I do a lot of cinders/gravel spreading on roads/driveways, so it requires a second helper to trip the gate and control the bed lift to get a smooth delivery. A short cord or intermittent wireless remote don't get it.

2;) PJ Trailers HD Low-Pro Dump (DE) D188 | Fayette Trailers LLC
 
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Does your driver get to pull this one with the new truck you are getting her? Gotta keep her happy!
 
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Does your driver get to pull this one with the new truck you are getting her? Gotta keep her happy!

:D I get this one, she got the Load Trail when it was new. She is a light duty driver with a light duty truck so the Lamar will work fine. It has been a good trailer and is heavy duty in every way but the lift capacity. Even tho it has a 6" HD lift it is mounted dead center of the bed. The Load Trail with a 5" lift would out lift it, due to the fact the hoist was mounted 2' ahead of center. It appears in pictures, the new DE is mounted the same way, so that is a real plus. Now if the dump industry would get a clue and install higher volume pumps with the 6" cylinder....they are soooo slow.

Still looking for a newer pickup for her but dang they hold their value. Even in the '12-'14 range they are expensive or high mileage.

Picture of my haul trucks when I still had the Big Tex 14LX.
 

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Looks like a good trailer. Let us know how you like it and post some pics when you get it.

Thanks, I will. They told me 8 weeks lead time with 6 weeks down, so maybe soon. The Lamar was 11 weeks and I was told 6 weeks, so....It will be a factory pickup, not sure yet if I will go get it or if I have it shipped. Sumner, Texas is about 950 miles from here.
 
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Your old ford is still one of the coolest builds ever!
 
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I am building a trailer that size, to be hauled by my tractor...

Looks like a well built trailer: 17.5 inch truck (mean big rig) tires last three times as long as light commercial vehicle tires, and tri axle torsion axles just dont work: whether you steer around a kerb or a stump, its 2 against one, so allways a swing arm bent on those things. On a tandem, its one against one, an equal fight ;)
 
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I just bought a PJ yesterday. It's a smaller one. It's a 7K 5x10. I chose it over some less expensive brands because it's clearly well designed.
 
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My new trailer showed up last night, I am already irritated at PJ and I haven't even looked at it yet :D The jacks (pro series, not bulldog) sound like a pig eating marbles and you can barely crank the handle. You can't tell me someone at the plant didn't feel/hear them. I hope it is just lacking grease because they are welded on. I will take more pictures in the day light.
 

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The newer Jack's on semi trailers sound like that and are hard to turn compared to the older ones. The noise on them is the shaft between them in high range because it turns so fast it rattles. But they go up and down much faster in high than the older ones. I don't even notice it anymore on my new trailer at work.
 
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I bought my PJ tilt bed from Fayette in Athens a couple of years ago. I live on the NY/Canada border and it was worth the little over 3 hour ride. They saved me money on the purchase as well as no NY sales tax. I hauled it home with a temp PA tag and then registered it in Maine. $99 for 5 years instead of $75 or more per year in NY. I cut NY completely out of the equation.
 
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I bought my PJ tilt bed from Fayette in Athens a couple of years ago. I live on the NY/Canada border and it was worth the little over 3 hour ride. They saved me money on the purchase as well as no NY sales tax. I hauled it home with a temp PA tag and then registered it in Maine. $99 for 5 years instead of $75 or more per year in NY. I cut NY completely out of the equation.

Interesting concept: Home - Maine Trailer Registrations



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The newer Jack's on semi trailers sound like that and are hard to turn compared to the older ones. The noise on them is the shaft between them in high range because it turns so fast it rattles. But they go up and down much faster in high than the older ones. I don't even notice it anymore on my new trailer at work.

These are just the standard single speed 10-12k jacks. I pulled the top cover off and the gear set was completely void of any grease. I would say that was the jack manufactures oversight, not PJ. They did (PJ) pump a small dab with the zerk but that didn't even reach the gears. I packed them and all is well.

I did measure the hoist mount. It is 1.5' ahead of center while the Lamar is only 6", so this lift should lift a heavy load. They both use the 6" cylinder. The hydraulic tank only has about 2" of fluid....Grrr and they didn't de-rate the GVW like I asked. In all fairness, the plant is running on a skeleton crew...but still.
 

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Nick,
Did you get 17.5 wheels and tires?
Bud
 
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Nick,
Did you get 17.5 wheels and tires?
Bud


Yes, 235/75x17.5 super singles, rated 6K each/10k Dexter torsion axles, 22k gvw. The tail gate is only 13 gauge, the Lamar is 11 gauge, I am butt hurt about that:D I do a lot of spreading so a lot of weight goes against it, I hope it is up to it.
 

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I've got 4 trailers with Maine plates. And I don't live in Maine.
Next time you're out on an interstate try to note the number of semi trailers with Maine plates.

Good idea. From looking at those websites from the search seemed to conflict a bit on what allows out of state residents to register trailers in Maine. One site seemed to indicate a presumption that the trailers qualified because of use in interstate commerce and another that it was an accommodation for temporary seasonal residents who ‘might’ want to leave a trailer in Maine.

Anyone have insight on that?
 
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Good idea. From looking at those websites from the search seemed to conflict a bit on what allows out of state residents to register trailers in Maine. One site seemed to indicate a presumption that the trailers qualified because of use in interstate commerce and another that it was an accommodation for temporary seasonal residents who ‘might’ want to leave a trailer in Maine.

Anyone have insight on that?

Whether you get any grief varies from state to state or even LEO to LEO. I've heard that it's not legal in my state. I've heard that it's OK in my state. All I know is that a lot of locals have Maine plated trailers and I have yet to hear of anyone receiving a ticket.
One of my Maine plated trailers has run from the NY/Canada border to Florida and back several times with no issues.
 
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My buddy has a trucking company and all his trailers are registered in Maine and have been for years....
 
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In Arizona, a 10,001 gvw trailer tag is $800 but it is a one time thing, the tag is permanent. For some reason UPS has stalled with a parcel from the dealer so I had to get a 90 day permit so I can operate. This is what UPS is saying...weird.

"The status of your package has changed.
Exception Reason:
Due to global health events beyond our control, your package is being held for delivery at a later date.
Exception Resolution:"
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