GC1725MB Purchase Question

[thedigital99]

Long Time Lurker, First Time Poster.

I am in the market for a subcompact and have settled on the GC1725MB for a host of reasons (capabilities, dealer, budget)

I am curious on the buying process. Do the dealer's normally negotiate? Do they normally discount from MSRP? Are prep fees normal?

Here is what I was quoted.

MSRP - $21,776 + $816 Prep fee - $22,594

0% Financing with Cashback $21,944 - I was expecting a little more of a discount (Beyond the MF Rebate) between MSRP and 0% price.
Cash $19,907

This is in New England, where everything seems to be more expensive.

Tractor House has the prices ranging from $18,500 to $22,000

I guess I was expecting the 0% quote to be a discounted beyond the cashback that AGCO was offering.

Thanks for your input

 

[Langanobob]

My experience when buying my GC1720 a couple of years ago is that the price is very much negotiable. Basically up to you to use your computer to check competitive pricing and make an offer. Don’t like to compare tractor dealers to car dealers but they are similar in that they would rather sell you a tractor at a higher and more profitable price, if you are willing to pay it, so their initial price is not necessarily the lowest price they will sell you the tractor for. Also, they did not add on any dealer prep charge.

And, of course, a week after you buy it you will find a better deal.

 

[thedigital99]

My experience when buying my GC1720 a couple of years ago is that the price is very much negotiable. Basically up to you to use your computer to check competitive pricing and make an offer. Don’t like to compare tractor dealers to car dealers but they are similar in that they would rather sell you a tractor at a higher and more profitable price, if you are willing to pay it, so their initial price is not necessarily the lowest price they will sell you the tractor for. Also, they did not add on any dealer prep charge.

And, of course, a week after you buy it you will find a better deal.

Thanks for sharing your experience. That is along the lines of what I was thinking.

 

[Diggin It]

Here is what I was quoted.

MSRP - $21,776 + $816 Prep fee - $22,594

That says 'find another dealer' and/or brand. I paid (am paying) about $4,000 less than that including the MMM and Tiller.

 

[thedigital99]

That says 'find another dealer' and/or brand. I paid (am paying) about $4,000 less than that including the MMM and Tiller.

Diggin It - Just to so I have the numbers straight. You are paying approx $18,500 for a GC1725MB with tiller and MMM. Is this the cash price or 0% price?

Thanks

 

[polarred21]

Long Time Lurker, First Time Poster.

I am in the market for a subcompact and have settled on the GC1725MB for a host of reasons (capabilities, dealer, budget)

I am curious on the buying process. Do the dealer's normally negotiate? Do they normally discount from MSRP? Are prep fees normal?

Here is what I was quoted.

MSRP - $21,776 + $816 Prep fee - $22,594

0% Financing with Cashback $21,944 - I was expecting a little more of a discount (Beyond the MF Rebate) between MSRP and 0% price.
Cash $19,907

This is in New England, where everything seems to be more expensive.

Tractor House has the prices ranging from $18,500 to $22,000

I guess I was expecting the 0% quote to be a discounted beyond the cashback that AGCO was offering.

Thanks for your input

For this price, we need to know what comes with it, like a mid mount mower, etc.

 

[Diggin It]

Diggin It - Just to so I have the numbers straight. You are paying approx $18,500 for a GC1725MB with tiller and MMM. Is this the cash price or 0% price?

Thanks

Nope. Looked at that one, went with the better value LS MT125 and without the '0%' scam back built into the price. Got a variable rate from an AG lender which is now at 2.49%

I prefer honest numbers, not smoke and mirror tricks.

One thing I can never remember about the MF is whether or not the BH and MMM can be mounted at the same time. Some brands can, others cannot.

 

[thedigital99]

For this price, we need to know what comes with it, like a mid mount mower, etc.

Polarred - That price is for the tractor, loader, and backhoe

 

[MaineGuy1]

The Massey 0% financing is just a scam. You get a lower purchase price if you get your own financing. I told them no thanks I'll get my own financing.

 

[thedigital99]

The Massey 0% financing is just a scam. You get a lower purchase price if you get your own financing. I told them no thanks I'll get my own financing.

MaineGuy- I completely agree the 0% is just paying the interest but including it in the sales price.

I am more thinking that the price for the Tractor, Loader, Backhoe is on the high side.
The Cash price

 

[plowhog]

MSRP - $21,776 + $816 Prep fee - $22,594

I bought a GC1710 for a little less than MSRP back in Dec 2015. It was about $17,000.

I shopped a couple of dealers and did find a little play in the price, but not much. The dealers only "get" a certain number of tractors each season, and when those are sold it's sort of "game over" till next season. So although they are willing to deal a little, they need to make some $$ to justify their overhead and costs of doing business. They can't give you a blow out price and easily replace the tractor that is no longer on their lot.

I've been very happy with my GC1710. So much that I bought a MF 1758 for a different property. I trailer the 1710 to the property where the 1758 is because 1) it has a backhoe, and 2) it is more nimble for certain jobs.

Good luck with your purchase!

 

[thedigital99]

I bought a GC1710 for a little less than MSRP back in Dec 2015. It was about $17,000.

I shopped a couple of dealers and did find a little play in the price, but not much. The dealers only "get" a certain number of tractors each season, and when those are sold it's sort of "game over" till next season. So although they are willing to deal a little, they need to make some $$ to justify their overhead and costs of doing business. They can't give you a blow out price and easily replace the tractor that is no longer on their lot.

I've been very happy with my GC1710. So much that I bought a MF 1758 for a different property. I trailer the 1710 to the property where the 1758 is because 1) it has a backhoe, and 2) it is more nimble for certain jobs.

Good luck with your purchase!

Thanks

 

[polarred21]

Here is a 10/19 post I made referencing price quotes from that time. Note the 1723EB model is about $1500 cheaper. SSQA option was $400 back then, not sure where this stands today.

Your price quote does seem high.

https://www.tractorbynet.com/forums...rive-massey-ferguson-gc1723e.html#post5557602

 

[thedigital99]

I am going to get in touch with the dealer tomorrow and see if I can't get the price down a little more.

Thanks for all the input.

 

[MaineGuy1]

I am going to get in touch with the dealer tomorrow and see if I can't get the price down a little more.

Thanks for all the input.

I was quoted 2 prices. One with Massey 0% and the other without their financing. The 0% was about 4k higher. I said no thanks.

 

[cglaser104]

My info is dated but in April of 2015 I bought a GC1710TLB with a 54" mower for $18200. I could have had the same with a GC1720 for $19800. My dealer was honest that using their 3.9% gave me a better Frontline price that the AGCO 0% financing. He even showed me the numbers both ways. Part of the issue is a mandatory markup to put it as 0% as I understood it. Walking in the door with financing from elsewhere that means they get a certified check for the total from elsewhere should yield best price.

 

[manganos]

I went with a new 1723e with fel and bh. Cash price of $14,900 brand new here in Virginia a few months ago. Currently at 40 hours with no regrets

 

[thedigital99]

I went with a new 1723e with fel and bh. Cash price of $14,900 brand new here in Virginia a few months ago. Currently at 40 hours with no regrets

Manganos - If you wouldn't mind giving me the name of the dealer. If I can get a price close to that it would be worth it to me to have the tractor shipped.

 

[manganos]

Manganos - If you wouldn't mind giving me the name of the dealer. If I can get a price close to that it would be worth it to me to have the tractor shipped.

Agribusiness Service Inc. | Selection of Massey Ferguson, Great Plains Equipment, & Krone

 

[thedigital99]

Thanks for all the info from everybody here. I found a semi local dealer that was able to offer a much better price. I *hopefully* will be finalizing everything with them tomorrow. Looking forward to my new tractor