Corona Virus #6

[CalG]

It remains a puzzle to me how anyone can point blame at the speech and actions of others when considering preparedness for the covid-19 situation.

With the "instant NEWS cycle", each of us had the same information as any of us. And that includes government representatives world wide.

Why didn't EACH of us put up a supply of masks and rubber gloves? Why didn't each of us have food enough in our pantries? Why do EACH of us not protect ourselves? etc.

Certainly each of us can find lots of room to fault those who try to deny/ dismiss/ ignore and cover up their own previous misguided actions. Those who do for political position should be hung by the short hairs. Circumstances change, move on. We need to work together. Fault finding isn't going to get us anywhere.

 

[D2Cat]

Very familiar with those reports. Unfortunately they really are pretty much useless in assessing whether chloroquine or azithromycin are helpful at all. The way to determine that would be to randomly assign patients to receive either the experimental treatment or a placebo and then follow for outcome. They didn't do that. They didn't even use very ill patients with a high expected mortality. The outcome therefore is likely to be no different for the patients who were given the experimental drugs than what would have been expected with no therapy.

I'm sure there are good studies underway now (or starting shortly) and we'll just have to wait a while for results. It shouldn't take long to do an appropriate blinded placebo controlled trial in someplace like NYC or NOLA given the number of new infected patients each day.

I feel bad for the poor guy who died after taking aquarium pills when he got excited by what POTUS was shooting from the hip about in his daily briefing a few days ago. That is exactly why hypotheses should NOT be touted by politicians before being evaluated by scientists. We don't need 18 months to answer this particular question by the way....it should take a total of about 500 patients followed for a few weeks to give a preliminary useful answer in this setting. A few weeks might seem like a long time but it is really quite quick. Otherwise you might as well shoot at a dart board or flip a coin.

Blame it on somebody, it sure wasn't because the man and his wife have good reading comprehension or listening skills! Surely they are not responsible for what they put in their mouth.

If someone is dumb enough to take the pills used to treat fish parasites for their own fear on contracting a virus, I hope they don't have any heart problems and advised to take Warfarin. They may go out to their garage and chew on a chunk of rat poison. I mean an anticoagulant is an anticoagulant! The containers say not for human consumption.

 

[txdon]

Island tractor, thanks for the additional info on the unconfirmed John's Hopkins report. I don't like it when someone's daughter is quoted because you never can verify because of a married name. It did get me to search the living or no living aspect of a virus which is defined differently in multiple sources. One good thing it did give me the image of little fat balls on my hands and how to scrub to get them dissolved/off. Keep up the good editing.

 

[Jstpssng]

^^^^^
That's where they lost me, and I stopped reading that post. My nephew is a respected researcher in pulmonary and critical care; yet that doesn't make me any more of an expert than my dog who is laying outside enjoying the swindling snow.
Heck, I barely know what his area of expertise means!

 

[CalG]

"laying outside enjoying the swindling snow."

I truly chuckled at that imagery. ;-)

swindling snow..... love it!

 

[Citydude]

As usual your linked article’s “sensationalized headline” doesn’t match the contents of the article.

Maybe you should read beyond the headline occasionally ... before making your snarky comments?

I gave up on him. Purely a copy and paste expert with little substance.

 

[California]

Researchers conclude Coronavirus jumped from nature to humans and didn't originate in a lab.

It was clear 殿lmost overnight that the virus wasn稚 human-made, Andersen says. Anyone hoping to create a virus would need to work with already known viruses and engineer them to have desired properties.

But the SARS-CoV-2 virus has components that differ from those of previously known viruses, so they had to come from an unknown virus or viruses in nature. 敵enetic data irrefutably show that SARS-CoV-2 is not derived from any previously used virus backbone, Andersen and colleagues write in the study.

典his is not a virus somebody would have conceived of and cobbled together. It has too many distinct features, some of which are counterintuitive, Garry says. 添ou wouldn稚 do this if you were trying to make a more deadly virus.

 

[rswyan]

Researchers conclude Coronavirus jumped from nature to humans and didn't originate in a lab.

No !

You mean it wasn't a Chicom bio-weapon they ginned up to "git" us ?

 

[YanmarFever]

No !

You mean it wasn't a Chicom bio-weapon they ginned up to "git" us ?

Come on randall, you know that we were sprayed by jets leaving contrails...

 

[CalG]

The SARs CoV-2 is just an accident.

Who ya' gonna' call?