Corona Virus #6

[rswyan]

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[/pine]

All should stop and take a deep breath...er...while you can...(sorry could not resist)

There does seem to be a lot of merit less links being posted...many look like they come from "The Henny Penny (drudge) Report"...

 

[the old grind]

This whole thing is like we're watching the first day of the Olympics and everyone is handicapping which country will have the most people medal.

How many contributors to this thread have been on ventilators or have died so far? We have as much to go on to predict who will.

I suspect this will be remembered like the Y2K thing. 98% what might happen and ~2% long term effect..

Fret on, folks.

 

[ultrarunner]

Story in the SF Chronicle said homeless shelters told NOT to maintain 6 feet distance...

SF’s most vulnerable are packed into homeless shelters with coronavirus distancing discouraged - SFChronicle.com

 

[shooterdon]

All should stop and take a deep breath...er...while you can...(sorry could not resist)

There does seem to be a lot of merit less links being posted...many look like they come from "The Henny Penny (drudge) Report"...

Agree.

One reason it is difficult to believe what is propaganda or the truth. I was just as bad I suppose...but now I am looking at numbers...and we have more numbers. Plus I am a numbers guy more than a touchy-feely sort.

There needs to be a lot of arse-kicking when this runs its course. How can 1300 deaths and 2100 serious/critical cases completely overwhelm the medical infrastructure of the richest country in the world? A country that put men on the moon over 50 years ago. WTF has happened to us! I could understand if 100k were dead, and 200k needed to be hospitalized...but this!!! With 6000 hospitals in our country? **** we lost 100k during the 1968 H3N2.

At this point....it is a given nearly every person that gets critically ill going forward is going to die. The brave people on the front lines are fighting this battle with a paltry supply of PPE. PLENTY of blame to spread on that one. Starting with hospital administrators and up to the top of the food chain...makes me sick to hear them all blame others. I blame them all!

Not much is adding up.

 

[ultrarunner]

^^^Maybe because PPE are much more the norm today than 50 years ago?

This country also had more ventilators years ago due to Polio... if it had not been for the scare several years back there would be even fewer ventilators today...

 

[k0ua]

And do we have a good number on the people that have died from say Feb 1 to now from the seasonal flu in the US?. I don't but I suspect it is in the thousands. All of this is based on "what is projected to happen" NOT on what has happened. It is all about computer modeling folks. And we ALL know how accurate computer models are.

 

[IslandTractor]

For those of you who still believe this pandemic is just another "flu" type epidemic:

Here’s a comparison of the first 65 days of the 2009 swine flu in the United States and first 65 days of the 2020 covid-19 outbreak. (from WaPo and CDC)


Swine flu

April 15, 2009 — first infection detected
June 19, 2009 — 21,449 cases, 87 deaths

Covid-19

Jan. 20, 2020 — first infection detected
March 25, 2020 — 69,344 cases, 1,050 deaths

Full article: https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2020/03/27/those-covid-19-death-toll-figures-are-incomplete/

 

[Citydude]

How’s the toilet licker kid doing? Surly some ambulance chasing reporter has the “scoop”.

 

[k0ua]

How’s the toilet licker kid doing? Surly some ambulance chasing reporter has the “scoop”.

I am sure he will survive. He is young and obviously very dumb.

 

[Industrial Toys]

Just like ALL the finger lickers. Something that has bugged me all my life.

 

[3 Horse Ranch]

I've wondered when is it worth putting the economy at risk by shutting everything down? That is, how many lives can be written off as just bad luck/wrong place, wrong time? Certainly people die every day for many reasons, and while we try to minimize risk, we don't ban automobile traffic because people die in cars.

I don't know the answer, and would love to hear others perspective on this.

So far, this is what I've come up with. It becomes a problem when it is a significant portion of the daily deaths that would occur otherwise.

However, even that has to be clarified based on region, as hotspots crop up. I looked up NY State mortality statistics and was surprised to find, on average, 404 people die a day. It's been consistent for years.

NY is now having about 150 (I'm not sure of the exact number) deaths per day from COVID-19, and it is continuing to climb. That is problematic for me, and points to a significant crises on the horizon.

Maybe some other areas will get away with fewer mortalities, but I worry that while they appear to be in the clear, that situation will change dramatically in the next few weeks.

I looked at the statistics for Washington State and there were no fatalities from Covid-19 in people below 40 years of age, and the those below 50 make up a total of 1% of the deaths and those under 60 make up 8% while also representing 58% of the confirmed cases. If there were a chart that listed healthy people without underlying conditions the death rate below 60 would most likely show a significant reduction. It seems counterproductive to keep the entire population isolated while only those over 60 or with underlying conditions are the ones really threatened. A more reasoned response might be to order those over 60 to stay home and those under 60 to not contact those staying home. Let everyone else get back to work and set up a system to deliver groceries and other necessities to those who are voluntarily isolated. It seems the government and the media have almost represented this virus as some sort of "Outbreak" kind of contagion with a super high mortality rate. (Reading some of the posts here about the forum becoming silent if the virus spreads it seems more than a few have that belief.) People under 60 might get sicker than they ever have been before, but very small chance of dying, especially if they take reasonable precautions. We simply cannot all stay locked in our homes producing nothing for any great length of time. If we do we will destroy our ability to be able to defend against the next crisis. The current policies are analogous to stopping food and water to a patient to cure him of a cold. Sure, the therapy worked, the cold is gone, but the patient died.

 

[Citydude]

I am sure he will survive. He is young and obviously very dumb.

Yes, and taking medical resources away from people who may need it. Dumb isn’t a strong enough word.

 

[k0ua]

I am sure he will survive. He is young and obviously very dumb.

Apparently there was a women that started the toilet seat licking thing.

A woman has been slammed on social media for an alleged 田oronavirus challenge video that has since gone viral.

Ava Louise, a twice-Dr. Phil guest and accused 田lout-chaser on social media, has recently gone viral for a
bizarre stunt that is getting widely criticized during the global coronavirus pandemic, which is responsible
for 68 deaths and at least 3,700 positive cases in the U.S. alone.


In the video, which was originally shared to TikTok, the 22-year-old aspiring influencer from Miami is seen
licking a toilet seat, allegedly while in a plane bathroom.


Please [retweet] this so people can know how to properly be sanitary on the airplane, she captioned the 6-second clip.


The tweet has been taken down along with the video but judging by the time line she was before the kid in the hospital.

 

[Citydude]

Apparently there was a women that started the toilet seat licking thing.

A woman has been slammed on social media for an alleged 田oronavirus challenge video that has since gone viral.

Ava Louise, a twice-Dr. Phil guest and accused 田lout-chaser on social media, has recently gone viral for a
bizarre stunt that is getting widely criticized during the global coronavirus pandemic, which is responsible
for 68 deaths and at least 3,700 positive cases in the U.S. alone.


In the video, which was originally shared to TikTok, the 22-year-old aspiring influencer from Miami is seen
licking a toilet seat, allegedly while in a plane bathroom.


Please [retweet] this so people can know how to properly be sanitary on the airplane, she captioned the 6-second clip.


The tweet has been taken down along with the video but judging by the time line she was before the kid in the hospital.

Social influencers....

 

[rswyan]

A very simple curve that tells a tragic story
1. China w/ 4 times the population of the US was able to flatten their curve
2. The US has now blown thru China's case N (tip of the iceberg d/t no testing for 2 months) to be the #COVID19 epicenter
3. The worst is yet to come

Twitter

 

[k0ua]

Social influencers....

yeah, we all need more of those...

 

[Industrial Toys]

Actually they say the toilet is often the cleanest thing in the home. I wanna see someone dare to lick the buttons on the payphone at the bus station.

 

[rekees4300]

Story in the SF Chronicle said homeless shelters told NOT to maintain 6 feet distance...

That's one way to solve the homeless problem. Do the beds have a "DNR" sign on them?

 

[rekees4300]

For those of you who still believe this pandemic is just another "flu" type epidemic:

Here痴 a comparison of the first 65 days of the 2009 swine flu in the United States and first 65 days of the 2020 covid-19 outbreak. (from WaPo and CDC)


Swine flu

April 15, 2009 first infection detected
June 19, 2009 21,449 cases, 87 deaths

Covid-19

Jan. 20, 2020 first infection detected
March 25, 2020 69,344 cases, 1,050 deaths

Full article: https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2020/03/27/those-covid-19-death-toll-figures-are-incomplete/

Comparing apples & oranges. Experts are saying Covid-19 is the most infectious virus they have encountered in their lifetimes.