Corona Virus #6

[Sodo]

Why? Because my wife is diabetic, with damaged heart and kidneys. She in the ultra-high risk category. That's why. We also live in a rural area and feel safe here. We are really stressed about going to town for essentials.

This is the case with lots of folks.

There's a very high risk beyond the virus.
From any existing problems because hospitals are going to be maxed for a few months.
TOTAL overload.
No beds for heart problems.
City people will be farmed out to all the 'rural' hospitals, in any open bed.
All beds will have waiting lists.
No space for people in car wrecks or with appendicitis, heart problems etc.

This is not a prediction.
This is happening in Italy now.

Read this: "Coronavirus: The Hammer and the Dance" by Tomas Pueyo
Coronavirus: The Hammer and the Dance - Tomas Pueyo - Medium
Not an easy read but try to read it twice.
The main gist is this: We must act now, that waiting will cost society a LOT more. He says 40% more cost for every day delayed.
Lockdown NOW.
Who can predict 40%? Nobody, really, but basically he's putting a number that quantifies the danger; expanding exponentially.

The main task we all have now is to slow the spread as much as possible, with six feet distancing, hand wash, masks, all these little elements are not full-on safety, but they all add some level of protection, which slows the spread.
The measures buy time.
Time is of the essence.
More time to prepare, more time to free up hospital beds, free up ventilators, train healthcare staff, search for a cure, ,,, all saves lives.

If it all hits hard and fast we'll be like Italy and Iran digging mass graves.
And why would it NOT?

The overload is coming and there will be significant collateral damage.
Hospitals don't sit empty when there's no COVID.
All those people need care and the hospitals are kinda full right now. RIGHT?
In 2 weeks there will no capacity, just a waiting list. Could be 1 week.

Everyone who does what they can to slow the spread, to slightly blunt the inevitable overload, will be saving other people's lives.
Everyone who poo-poos our national emergency, and gets other people to go along, will be "adding deaths".

I hope all you fellers are still on your tractors in the following months.
Sorry for the bummer.
Read that link, the guy's pretty good.

 

[rekees4300]

Still working on spreading fear and panic?

Nope, I'm working on spreading the truth. You still working on getting this thread closed?

 

[Diggin It]

Try to imagine what it would be like going through this crisis/ordeal without modern Internet/cell phone technology...

Not being able to corroborate everything going on would be misery...

Probably wouldn't be as much fear and rumor mongering. Most people might not even know about it.

 

[Diggin It]

By answering the phone at all, you're just proving that they've dialed a valid, working number. You don't want to do that.

 

[California]

They didn't want YOUR password to YOUR email. They surely wanted your email address, and A password for the grocery site so you could check back in and as a way for them to communicate with you.

Exactly. That's what I explained to my wife. "Ohhhh."

She should know better, she's a retired budget analyst who used Excel spreadsheets ever since Excel was invented. Somehow none of that familiarity with computers transferred over to Internet use.

 

[/pine]

Probably wouldn't be as much fear and rumor mongering. Most people might not even know about it.

You could not be more wrong and that is saying something based on your previous comments in these threads...

If all that was available was print media, radio, TV and word of mouth...the fear and rumor mongering would be 1000 fold...with the technology it does not take a brain surgeon to discern valuable information from hogwash...

There is as much bad information coming from the mainstream media that there is on the Internet...

 

[aczlan]

My goal/strategy is to try to get them to hang up on me.

I've found a fool proof way. When they call, I speak to them in Spanish and say I don't speak English (I'm fluent - sort of, in Spanish).

They dutifully transfer me to someone that speaks Spanish. I then ask why on Earth they are speaking to me in Spanish? I don't speak Spanish, I speak English. They usually apologize and start speaking English, at which point I go back to Spanish, telling them I'm really sorry but I don't speak English and don't understand them.

Usually after a couple of rounds of this they get exasperated and hang up.

Me for the win! I've never been unsuccessful in getting a telemarketer to hang up on me when I do this.

I do the same, my most memorable response was someone who started cursing me for wasting his time when I asked (in broken english) for someone who spoke spanish.
A coworker asks the "extended warranty" people about getting insurance for his Model T "Nope, I just have a Model T, I dont get out much" and they usually hang up on him in short order...

Aaron Z

 

[k0ua]

Exactly. That's what I explained to my wife. "Ohhhh."

She should know better, she's a retired budget analyst who used Excel spreadsheets ever since Excel was invented. Somehow none of that familiarity with computers transferred over to Internet use.

Well... anyone can have a senior moment once in a while... ...... especially us seniors.

 

[k0ua]

I do the same, my most memorable response was someone who started cursing me for wasting his time when I asked (in broken english) for someone who spoke spanish.
A coworker asks the "extended warranty" people about getting insurance for his Model T "Nope, I just have a Model T, I dont get out much" and they usually hang up on him in short order...

Aaron Z

What would a good working order Model T be worth nowadays? I bet some bucks...

 

[/pine]

Exactly. That's what I explained to my wife. "Ohhhh."

She should know better, she's a retired budget analyst who used Excel spreadsheets ever since Excel was invented. Somehow none of that familiarity with computers transferred over to Internet use.

FWIW...If you export a spreadsheet as a CSV (comma separated value) file...it can automatically be imported into just about any relational database that are the spine of any web site that archives or offers searchable functions...