Corona Virus #6

Big Barn · Mar 21, 2020

California said:
Listen to Ultrarunner. He works in a hospital. His info is first-hand and is far more credible than some of the armchair theories out there.

Agreed

ultrarunner · Mar 21, 2020

Jstpssng said:
That’s something nobody has mentioned; this is the first time I’m aware of that the entire world is working toward a common goal. The closest we’ve ever come was the race for the moon.

The last time I felt we were in this together was 9/11... even crime just about disappeared around here and I never had seen so many American Flags in my life... by the way I am starting to see a few here and there again.

My worst fear is pre 2020 will be looked at as the good old days when anyone could buy a ticket and fly to a far off destination or cruise around the world in luxury... when social gatherings were the norm and stadiums with tens of thousands would gather.

My best is this is something that brings us closer together and working together for the common good we become better...

Just seeing what can be done when everyone is pulling together is a breath of fresh air...

I do believe the importance of taking care of yourself, your family and neighbors cannot be understated... not needing help frees up resources for those that do.

I have been in checking by phone or by a wave on my senior and very senior 100+ year old neighbors... they are glad for the conversation and all have said they have what they need... the 100 year old asked if she could give me toilet paper!

They live in their single family homes and say how good they have it... friends calling in to see how they are and being able to live in the homes they love...

It is inspirational... especially hearing it from Vivian who survived the Spanish Flu in 1918...

Steppenwolfe · Mar 21, 2020

rswyan said:
The necessary pieces for the capabilities to be able to do that should have already been in place at a national/nationwide level.

Infrastructure - national focus on recruitment, education, and training ... as a public health policy priority ... research capability, etc.

And, but for a lack of national political will - and funding - it could have been.

I think that Americans are about to find out that their vaulted "healthcare system" is woefully inadequate for addressing this type of a catastrophe ...

We'll have only ourselves to blame ... if that turns out to be the case.

Of course, I certainly hope it isn't the case ... since it will probably effect me ... quite personally ...

The Corona Virus will be the least of most Americans problems... Google News - Governors Lockdown a Quarter of the U.S. Economy, Deepening Recession

Molalla1 · Mar 21, 2020

California said:
Listen to Ultrarunner. He works in a hospital. His info is first-hand and is far more credible than some of the armchair theories out there.

:thumbsup: Yes . . .

rswyan · Mar 21, 2020

Steppenwolfe said:
The Corona Virus will be the least of most Americans problems... Google News - Governors Lockdown a Quarter of the U.S. Economy, Deepening Recession

Is that your "expert medical opinion" ?

Steppenwolfe · Mar 21, 2020

rswyan said:
Is that your "expert medical opinion" ?

Hey... I'm a carpenter :confused3: However, the economic fallout from this could devastate 1000 x's the people who may die.

rswyan · Mar 21, 2020

The new curves for 21 March:
US deaths very steepen, now approaching Iran
US case curve has surpassed even Spain
It just keeps looking worse.
Thanks @jburnmurdoch @FT who is all over this each day

Twitter

ruffdog · Mar 21, 2020

It sure doesn't look like covid19 is slowing up in Italy as they just had 800 new DEATHS in one day. Spain jumped 5000 cases in one day.

Italy's coronavirus deaths spike by nearly 8 in one day

Spain'''s coronavirus cases leap by 5, in 24 hours, now only behind China and Italy | Fox News

rswyan · Mar 21, 2020

Steppenwolfe said:
Hey... I'm a carpenter :confused3:

Sure.

Steppenwolfe said:
However, the economic fallout from this could devastate 1000 x's the people who may die.

Riiiight ...

But it would sure be devastating if YOU died ... amirite ?

Steppenwolfe · Mar 21, 2020

rswyan said:
Sure.

Riiiight ...

But it would sure be devastating if YOU died ... amirite ?

Well now... that go's without saying. :thumbsup:

MGH PA · Mar 21, 2020

ultrarunner said:
The last time I felt we were in this together was 9/11... even crime just about disappeared around here and I never had seen so many American Flags in my life... by the way I am starting to see a few here and there again.

My worst fear is pre 2020 will be looked at as the good old days when anyone could buy a ticket and fly to a far off destination or cruise around the world in luxury... when social gatherings were the norm and stadiums with tens of thousands would gather.

My best is this is something that brings us closer together and working together for the common good we become better...

Just seeing what can be done when everyone is pulling together is a breath of fresh air...

I do believe the importance of taking care of yourself, your family and neighbors cannot be understated... not needing help frees up resources for those that do.

I have been in checking by phone or by a wave on my senior and very senior 100+ year old neighbors... they are glad for the conversation and all have said they have what they need... the 100 year old asked if she could give me toilet paper!

They live in their single family homes and say how good they have it... friends calling in to see how they are and being able to live in the homes they love...

It is inspirational... especially hearing it from Vivian who survived the Spanish Flu in 1918...

So you feel this has the ability to never go away and essentially create a new isolationist need to sustain life?

MinnesotaEric · Mar 21, 2020

rswyan said:
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An Ex-pat friend who retired to Spain with her husband and two teenagers at the age of 42 is, as of last night, still going out and meeting with friends as if little to nothing is going on. That might help explain Spain's meteoric rush along with US young thinking their immortal still partying like it is 1999 (we remember if they don't LOL).

Diggin It · Mar 21, 2020

Gale Hawkins said:
Wagtail I have been meaning to ask about your horse that does not show its face in your avatar.

It's a common image captioned 'There's one in every crowd'.

If you didn't know.

ptsg · Mar 21, 2020

MinnesotaEric said:
An Ex-pat friend who retired to Spain with her husband and two teenagers at the age of 42 is, as of last night, still going out and meeting with friends as if little to nothing is going on. That might help explain Spain's meteoric rush along with US young thinking their immortal still partying like it is 1999 (we remember if they don't LOL).

They're lucky that they didn't get caught.

Also in a Spain, a girl decided that was a good time to go jogging during a severe quarantine. Well, she got arrested and had to pay a fine of around 600€ or $650.

rswyan · Mar 21, 2020

Steppenwolfe said:
Well now... that go's without saying. :thumbsup:

Here's the thing ... and listen up and pay close attention - because I don't want you or anyone else dying

:

It's a retrovirus ... and they have high rates of mutation ... meaning they can change quite readily and become different, possibly more far lethal than it currently is.

This virus has relatively recently made the jump to MAN - it was zoonotic (animal ---> man) ... and apparently has now mutated in fairly short order to where it is had is now directly transmissible human to human in a really big way.

IOW: it's a NEW THING ... and we have no built-up/built-in herd immunity (which might account for some of the reinfection that has been reported)

We don't know which way it will go ... and that's why we need to be about the business of stomping it out asap ... because we don't want it lingering around and changing into something even worse.

At least that's how I understand it.

It's nothing to panic or get hysterical over ... but it ain't something to just blow off either.

It needs to wiped out ... insofar as that is possible.

rswyan · Mar 21, 2020

delete duplicate

Jstpssng · Mar 21, 2020

^^^^^
You really that, don’t you?! Enough to say it twice. :laughing:

rswyan · Mar 21, 2020

MinnesotaEric said:
An Ex-pat friend who retired to Spain with her husband and two teenagers at the age of 42 is, as of last night, still going out and meeting with friends as if little to nothing is going on. That might help explain Spain's meteoric rush along with US young thinking their immortal still partying like it is 1999 (we remember if they don't LOL).

Yup ... :thumbsup:

That's where the "It's like a cold or the flu ..." can get individuals - along with many likely unsuspecting others - into a whole world of trouble ...

Yeah, no ... it really ain't like a cold or the flu ...

rswyan · Mar 21, 2020

Jstpssng said:
^^^^^
You really that, don’t you?! Enough to say it twice. :laughing:

I was too long composing my reply ...

But if the word you left out above was "believe" ... yeah, I do ... :laughing:

Jstpssng · Mar 21, 2020

And I was hurrying to post before you deleted the second... hence the missing “believe.”

I do have a question; I see this a lot. Why don’t people just use the “delete” function for double posts? I’ve even seen MossRoad write “double post” rather than just getting rid of it.