4815 C Available

[K5lwq]

I was traveling through the Texas Panhandle today and decided to stop in at Panhandle Tractor. The owner, unfortunately I failed to get his name, was great! Anyone in that market would serve themselves well by doing business with them.

Anyway, he asked if I would like to see the distribution center for Branson. He took me on a tour and I was able to see all models in person. I have been looking mainly at the 20 & 25 series with cab because of health issues. I like the power of these but have not been able to justify, in my mind, the frame size for my small acreage.

The 15 series is more the correct size for my needs. The issue for me has been the cab models were only available in 35 and 40 hp. With turning a compressor and the amount of PTO work I do, the 48HP makes more sense.

Well, they now have a 4815C! I was able to get in the cab and it was a little tight. However, at 6'3" I was comfortable and able to work breaks and clutch with no issue. I did have to slide seat all the way back but certainly doable. I haven't found any information online about this new model so had no idea it was available. Now I am leaning heavily towards the 4815C.

What I don't know is if rear remotes are available and if only one or two sets. If not, I would have to study a little harder on a modification to add the remotes. I like having the hydraulic top link and tilt. Does anyone know anything about this model and how many remotes are available?

 

[ptsg]

Thanks for letting us know of the existence of a cabbed version of the 4815.

Let's just say that Branson leaves much to be desired when it takes to updating their websites, both US and Global websites.

At 5'7", I had to pull the seat all the way forward and take a 2" spacer they used under the seat out to lower it a bit more.

Regarding the remotes, it can take up to 2 sets of remotes. Some tractors come standard with 1 set, while others won't come with remotes. From previous and older threads, several people confirmed that the price for a remote set is quite affordable, somewhere in the 400$ if recall correctly.

 

[Slowpoke Slim]

I would be surprised if you couldn't order the tractor with 2 rear remotes from your selling dealer.

 

[Asteral]

well the Owner in question you were speaking to is Buster Jenkins, and he is just amazing, he is always willing to help and he is a good friend to us here at our dealership. as for the 4815C and the rear remotes they do not come with rear remotes on any 15 series model tractor unless you add them(which branson does make a rear remote kit for part # TA00042905A ) or have it ordered with a set installed on it when you go to purchase your tractor.
hope this helps.

 

[K5lwq]

well the Owner in question you were speaking to is Buster Jenkins, and he is just amazing, he is always willing to help and he is a good friend to us here at our dealership. as for the 4815C and the rear remotes they do not come with rear remotes on any 15 series model tractor unless you add them(which branson does make a rear remote kit for part # TA00042905A ) or have it ordered with a set installed on it when you go to purchase your tractor.
hope this helps.

Thanks for sharing his name! He was great and he is a friend to y'all as he highly recommended I purchase from you. I will be doing just that once I make the final decision. Even though the 4815c makes more sense and most likely will be the choice I still really like the idea of a 5220c. I guess it is from my time on the farm but I like a bigger tractor. Who doesn't want to put in a garden with a 40 foot disk?:confused3:

That is great to know I can have the remotes added. I know we will need to order either tractor because I definitely want R1 tires. Thanks for the info!

 

[Asteral]

No problem

 

[LouNY]

As far as the remote hydraulics I'm not overly impressed with my factory ones on the 8050.
It has three with one having detents and two being spring centered.
I realize that I use mine different then many on here but if doing it over and they hadn't been standard,
I have been considering adding 2 more or changing out whats on her for two sets on joysticks.
With float on at least one maybe two and detents on one.
The joystick left/right action would be nice when using for remotes that are swing something left or right,
such as double hitch rakes, hydro swing mowers and even rear blades to move materials left or right.
I may do so one of these days it's just that it would be several hundred just to make it a bit nicer.

 

[ericm979]

The ones on my 3725 are not bad. No detent or float available. The Rube Goldberg linkage to the valves at the back of the transmission could be tightened up but I can feather the valves as needed.

the 15 series is different from all of those though so the valves will probably be different.

 

[K5lwq]

That is good information guys, thanks. I will look closer at a way to add remotes.

Lou,

I added a 3 spool valve for the remotes on my Kioti and 2 are joystick. I have that controlling the top link and right side link. The third spool controls a left side link. So I set the height with the left link, forward and back on joystick moves top link and left and right on joystick adjust level. Works great! Top link has float as well.

 

[Cougsfan]

The rear remotes on my 4720ch are really disappointing too because of the linkage. I don't know if it just my tractor, but they are hard to push, and almost impossible to feather or find center. I'd love to try something else. I'm not sure what I could do different. though.

 

[K5lwq]

The rear remotes on my 4720ch are really disappointing too because of the linkage. I don't know if it just my tractor, but they are hard to push, and almost impossible to feather or find center. I'd love to try something else. I'm not sure what I could do different. though.

Do you think the linkage geometry is off or is it just to tight? I would think the valve spools would be spring to center. I have not driven any of the Bransons yet but plan to soon. I did get in the cabs but did not move any of the remotes.

Eric's post above indicated that his linkage was loose. Maybe some adjusting or lubricating would help?

 

[ptsg]

The remote linkage for the Cab vs Rops is different.

I have a ROPS model and I can say that l really like the linkage for the remotes. I can easily feather the valve without any kind of binding of fussing around.

On the Cab versions, I believe the extra linkage to put the levers on a better spot for the operation is creating some issues.

 

[K5lwq]

ptsg,
I actually was thinking I liked mechanical linkage better than a cable system. Maybe on cab versions cables would be better?

 

[LouNY]

The older 8050 is cable operated, don't know about the others.

 

[ptsg]

ptsg,
I actually was thinking I liked mechanical linkage better than a cable system. Maybe on cab versions cables would be better?

I don't have a parts manual for Cab model of the 15 series.

So from a parts manual for the 3725 Cab model, they use the mechanical linkage like the ROPS model, but then, where the ROPS model just have a lever, they change to a cable up to the cab using a weird geometry to the linkage. My theory is that messes up the leverage to the mechanical linkage, thus making somewhat difficult to operate. I've never tried one my self though. They should went with cable straight to the remote and not using part of the linkage on the ROPS model.

But it's something you can look for when you have a change to try one out.

 

[K5lwq]

Well I did just that. I decided to go to my local dealer and he had a 4815C in stock. I managed to test drive and although it did not have remotes I confirmed 2 are available. No detent or float but not a deal breaker. I did work the remotes in a 5220 and did notice they were stiff. One was spring to center the other was detent and had to be put back center manually. It had cables to mechanical linkage as you described. The remotes for the 4815 will be all linkage with no cables. Best I can tell is it will be a fairly straight shot so should not be much of an issue.

In this case going OEM on the remotes looks to be the best option.

The loader valve was smooth and so no issues whatsoever. I don't know if they have upgraded it from some other post I have read or what. But it seems to be fine.

Overall a very nice machine and will fit my needs just fine. Now all I need is money. :thumbsup:

 

[Cougsfan]

On the Cab versions, I believe the extra linkage to put the levers on a better spot for the operation is creating some issues.

You may be right, ptsg. The 4720 cab uses cables. They are quite hard to pull or push. They are not spring loaded back to center. The detent in the center position is almost non-existent so you can't easily find center when you are working the controls, or you think you have the controls centered but you don't and the cylinders keep moving. I don't know how many times I have looked back and found my top link fully contracted or extended when I had it set it somewhere near the middle. To make maters worse, the 3 point looses it's lift when the cylinder is fully extended or retracted and the controls are still engaged. Fine control requires much concentration, which is hard to do if the tractor is moving. And when you do have it set, you have to stare at it for a a few moments to be sure it doesn't keep moving. I don't think it is a matter of adjustment, it is just a poor design with wrong leverages, no centering springs and weak detents. The FEL uses the same type of cable. The FEL isn't the best I have seen for fine control, but it works and it runs circles around the rear remotes. Again, this may just be my tractor, but it sure does stink, and I don't think I can improve it without tossing the whole linkage system, but I have no idea of what to replace it with. If your system is different, be thankful.

 

[ptsg]

Have you tried to spray WD 40 or something similar to inside the cables? It does look like the cables are running dry or got moisture into it making things hard to move.

The only spring to make it return to center is just the one on the valve, if the cables create enough drag, I can see how the spring won't have enough force to overcome all the leverage.

 

[Cougsfan]

I will try lubing the cables although they are fairly enclosed. Been that way since new, so I never thought they should be binding. Maybe I can find some stronger springs too.

Hope you get that 4815C, K5. Sounds like an upgrade to the 4720C, which overall is a pretty good tractor. The Branson site doesn't even have a picture of it so post a picture if you do get it.

 

[K5lwq]

Thanks Cougs, I hope it works out as well. We are finalizing the year and meeting with our accounting team at work. I will know more after this week if it makes sense or not.

I am not sure the 4815c is a improvement over the 4720ch. The remotes might be smoother just because of location. The thing I noticed on the 20 series is the cables run to the back of the fender and do a 180 to the valve linkage. That probably adds to the stiffness of the levers. Hopefully lubricant helps your issues. Please let us know what you find.