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[t2lcat]

Hi, I'm new to the thread and have a quick question. I'm trying to figure out who the manufacturer is and what the part number is for the OEM shocks/springs on the pre-2017 toolcat. Can anyone check their machine and see if the manufacturer and the part number is imprinted on the OEM shock/spring? I know that the service parts list a different part number. Help would be appreciated!

 

[Xfaxman]

Hi, I'm new to the thread and have a quick question. I'm trying to figure out who the manufacturer is and what the part number is for the OEM shocks/springs on the pre-2017 toolcat. Can anyone check their machine and see if the manufacturer and the part number is imprinted on the OEM shock/spring? I know that the service parts list a different part number. Help would be appreciated!

Answered by ruffdog in this thread started by t2lcat: https://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/toolcat/416803-need-toolcat-shock-info.html

 

[mrmurphy003]

I currently work for a Railroad and we use multiple types of heavy machinery all day, one of our machines we need to function is a 2006 (I believe) Toolcat 5600. A newer worker hopped in the Toolcat and didnt know you had to put the arm rest down for the Toolcat Hydraulics to function properly and he forced the joystick forward while the armrest was up, and now ever since the joystick can be pushed forward or backwards without any resistance nor does it operate the front boom.

I have access to all of the tools in the world and a huge maintenance facility, all I am wondering before I tear into this beast is what should I be looking for? I have experience in small engine repair and Locomotive Repair (not that it'll help any) so I feel confident in tearing it apart and throwing it back together I just want to know if anyone has any pointers on what it could be? I'm thinking an issue in the Solenoid but I was hoping for something simple like a linkage but that is too much to ask for....

Thanks,

Mike

 

[Xfaxman]

I currently work for a Railroad and we use multiple types of heavy machinery all day, one of our machines we need to function is a 2006 (I believe) Toolcat 5600. A newer worker hopped in the Toolcat and didnt know you had to put the arm rest down for the Toolcat Hydraulics to function properly and he forced the joystick forward while the armrest was up, and now ever since the joystick can be pushed forward or backwards without any resistance nor does it operate the front boom.

I have access to all of the tools in the world and a huge maintenance facility, all I am wondering before I tear into this beast is what should I be looking for? I have experience in small engine repair and Locomotive Repair (not that it'll help any) so I feel confident in tearing it apart and throwing it back together I just want to know if anyone has any pointers on what it could be? I'm thinking an issue in the Solenoid but I was hoping for something simple like a linkage but that is too much to ask for....

Thanks,

Mike

Answered by SSdoxie in this thread started by mrmurphy003: https://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/toolcat/417253-toolcat-5600-joystick-freely-moves.html

 

[Hay Dude]

So this is a bit of a more subjective question:
If buying a toolcat for several chores, one being mowing large areas of grass, one of my concerns is the TC will be too heavy and cause ruts in large lawns. If I understand correctly, they weigh about 6,000lbs with a finish mower and operator. I currently use a kubota ZD331 which weighs about 1700lbs with the commercial front deck. That weight is mostly distributed on 2 typical turf tires and a little on the front mower tires. The TC will be distributing ~6000 on 4 tires and a little on the mower tires.

Is this concern warranted? Does anyone mowing repeatedly with a toolcat notice ruts?
Obviously, we all try to avoid cutting saturated, soft ground, but even when the ground is pretty firm, I'm concerned about customers complaining about "grooves" in the large areas I plan to cut. I will also be cutting conservancy "trails"- long walking paths of grass where there's not much chance to "vary" the path of the cutting machine. It's just a 6' wide path several miles long.

Also will be using it to move round bales around, installing fence posts, snow removal and other typical farm chores. The mowing part has me a little concerned.....

Any thoughts appreciated.

 

[ruffdog]

So this is a bit of a more subjective question:
If buying a toolcat for several chores, one being mowing large areas of grass, one of my concerns is the TC will be too heavy and cause ruts in large lawns. If I understand correctly, they weigh about 6,000lbs with a finish mower and operator. I currently use a kubota ZD331 which weighs about 1700lbs with the commercial front deck. That weight is mostly distributed on 2 typical turf tires and a little on the front mower tires. The TC will be distributing ~6000 on 4 tires and a little on the mower tires.

Is this concern warranted? Does anyone mowing repeatedly with a toolcat notice ruts?
Obviously, we all try to avoid cutting saturated, soft ground, but even when the ground is pretty firm, I'm concerned about customers complaining about "grooves" in the large areas I plan to cut. I will also be cutting conservancy "trails"- long walking paths of grass where there's not much chance to "vary" the path of the cutting machine. It's just a 6' wide path several miles long.

Also will be using it to move round bales around, installing fence posts, snow removal and other typical farm chores. The mowing part has me a little concerned.....

Any thoughts appreciated.

It is heavy and you do have to watch soft lawns just like you would a 60hp tractor. It is much more substantial than a UTV and should not be considered as one. Even your ZD331 will rut if driven on the same path as our X744 will. Our last 2 years have been wet so I have been mowing different directions for this very reason...even with the X744. My TC with turfs is as easy on the ground and is turf friendly as a 6000 lb vehicle can be. It doesn't tear the turf up when maneuvering around.

 

[Hay Dude]

It is heavy and you do have to watch soft lawns just like you would a 60hp tractor. It is much more substantial than a UTV and should not be considered as one. Even your ZD331 will rut if driven on the same path as our X744 will. Our last 2 years have been wet so I have been mowing different directions for this very reason...even with the X744. My TC with turfs is as easy on the ground and is turf friendly as a 6000 lb vehicle can be. It doesn't tear the turf up when maneuvering around.

I've been cutting one customers place, a 20 acre HOA for years and a lot of it is long "strips" of grass along roads. Can't really change directions. Would love to cut with a toolcat in a climate controlled cab and also use it for their snow removal, but the weight of the machine for lawns has me pausing. As far as moving hay bales and snow removal, it looks excellent. I currently plow the place with a 1-ton 4WD truck. Thinking the toolcat can get closer to garage doors, sidewalks, etc.
would also like to get the front mount blower to clean up leaves and the brush mower for brush removal work.

 

[craneman13]

in in my 3rd season with my D. went to turf tires this year and I love them. have some wet areas that I mow weekly and I don't think the machine is any different than my Deer 4300 was. I have "cut" in on some very wet areas but nothing out of the norm. as for steering with the 4 way steer I think it is actually quite a bit easer on the ground. don't be afraid of this machine. you will not regret the purchase.

 

[Hay Dude]

That gives me some comfort. I think the stability of the soil is just as big a factor.
I saw a Toolcat today at of all places, a cemetery. I was at a military funeral at Washington Crossing Cemetery.
It looked like their "go-to" tool for cutting the massive amount of grass and moving dirt.

 

[AverageJoe]

Yet another mulching head question. It seems GyroTrac has a 400HL model 4HL High Flow/ Low Flow Cutter-head | Gyro-Trac Corporation | Gyrotrac | Gyro-Trac which appears to be within the capabilities of a 5600/5610. Has anyone tried this model?

I'm thinking, as a new land owner, that by the time I get a compact tractor with FEL, bush hog, and maybe a backhoe, and add the requisite UTV/ATV for getting around the place, that $30K for a used 5600/5610 and $16K for a mulch head winds up being about the same expense. But, if I can't find a small enough mulching head for the ToolCat, I may as well get the tractor and a UTV.

 

[ruffdog]

If you need the $16k mulch head for the toolcat, why only a bush hog for the tractor? Compare apples to apples.

 

[AverageJoe]

If you need the $16k mulch head for the toolcat, why only a bush hog for the tractor? Compare apples to apples.

Good morning, nice to meet you. You must be a forum troll. Thank you for an absolutely useless response!:thumbsup:

 

[ruffdog]

Good morning, nice to meet you. You must be a forum troll. Thank you for an absolutely useless response!:thumbsup:

Not a troll...you were comparing a small tractor with a rotary cutter to a skid steer type mulch head which are 2 different animals. Different equipment for different levels of work to be done. I hired out my land clearing because I didn't want to tear up my equipment.

 

[Xfaxman]

Yet another mulching head question. It seems GyroTrac has a 400HL model 4HL High Flow/ Low Flow Cutter-head | Gyro-Trac Corporation | Gyrotrac | Gyro-Trac which appears to be within the capabilities of a 5600/5610. Has anyone tried this model?

I'm thinking, as a new land owner, that by the time I get a compact tractor with FEL, bush hog, and maybe a backhoe, and add the requisite UTV/ATV for getting around the place, that $30K for a used 5600/5610 and $16K for a mulch head winds up being about the same expense. But, if I can't find a small enough mulching head for the ToolCat, I may as well get the tractor and a UTV.

No experience with a mulching head. We use a 7' brush hog, out front is much better:

Mowing close to the barb wire fence, notice the T post:

 

[Hay Dude]

Average Joe,

I know what you mean... I wondered if the Toolcat was suited to a mulching head, too...... I have rented a few mulching machines and most I have seen have metal tracks so they can crawl/push over saplings slowly and mulch them up.
If I had all the money in the world for tools, it would be one of my most used attachments.
My guess is when you push on the tree to be mulched, the toolcat would lose just a little traction compared to metal tracks. It would work, but not as productively. Also running over little stumplets in wooded areas would be very tough on tires.
I have a 15' CX-15 bush hog hooked to a 130HP farm tractor and when I back over heavy brush, I'm always thinking about the tires.

 

[Nezter]

Hello all, I am new to a Bobcat Toolcat, i just picked up a D series 5600 this week. I picked it up knowing there was a drive problem...quick summary: The machines starts and runs fine, slight smell of electrical burning (which i'll have to find myself), but the machine will not move forward or backward though the hydraulic dump and front lift arm both work properly. I found two error codes 50-07 (FPR No Signal) and 50-13 (Front speed sensor open circuit). Also the throttle does not work when you depress the pedal (i'm assuming maybe thats a TPS issue). I'm going to check both of those out first, but before i dig deep into this does anyone have any prior experience with this issue or have heard about it?

Thank you in advance... My serial starts with A0W1 in case that helps.

 

[Xfaxman]

What happens when you turn the steering wheel?

 

[ruffdog]

slight smell of electrical burning

That's not a good sign on a toolcat....I hope you get some answers.

 

[DEWFPO]

Question about removing the plastic "eyebrow visor" that's over the road kit lights for someone who's done this. Is there any kind of seal that I need to be aware of between the plastic visor and the metal cab roof?

I'm planning on hard-wiring my rotating beacon light and my two side facing flood lights and want to run them into/under the plastic 'visor' and down the A pillar into the cab. I was going to remove the visor but can't tell if there's a seal or gasket between the visor and the cab. I haven't removed the attaching bolts yet, just wanting to be prepared.

Thanks, Dewfpo

 

[Nezter]

Xfaxman - The steering wheel turns as it should. I just removed the brake and throttle pedals and pulled the TPS's out. Testing them, and i think the electrical burning smell is from the alternator, the machine had been sitting a while and water was getting on the alternator.