2019 F350 crew cab lariat question

[jayincmh]

I was just looking at F250's, F350's, and a Ram 2500 Diesel Cummins. Put a deposit on a fully equipped (incl 5th wheel tow package) ford F250. Was told after they cashed my deposit that the truck was sold to someone else. I'm still trying to get my deposit back. Went out last Friday and bought the Ram 2500 with the Cummins turbo diesel, also fully equipped with the 5th wheel tow package and auto-leveling air suspension, and couldn't be happier. Well....I'll be a little happier when the ford dealer finally returns my deposit.

I was able to negotiate about 20% off MSRP after a little nudging. They didn't want to come down that much, but ultimately did. And they came up over $2,000 higher on my trade-in (2010 Ram 1500) than the initial trade-in offer. It didn't hurt that I pulled into the ford dealer in the dodge that I was test driving, or that I drove a ford into the dodge dealer. : )

And the 2500 Cummins is getting better mileage than the Ram 1500 with the Hemi that I traded in on it.

 

[Snobdds]

Ended up waiting for the 2020's. Just ordered a 2020 F350 king ranch crew cab dually with 6.7 diesel. Main options I selected were fx4, 4.10 rear axle, rapid heat, adaptive cruise, 5th wheel prep, quad beam led headlamps, adaptive steering, tailgate step and heated rear seat. There were other small options but MSRP came to $82,170. X plan price is $77586.

That's going to be the GenIII version of the 6.7 powerstroke. Lots of upgrades from new fuel and injection system to refined low oil pressure system. Speculation is 490hp and 1015ft lbs, with plenty left on the table for more.

I was waiting for this to come out and will get one once it's been out a year. Let us know how the updated engine does.

2 Ford Super Duty 6.7L Engine Specs - Snyder Performance Engineering

 

[thekkfan]

Why do all the ford leather seats from 06-07 range and up not hold up? Seen many used 11-16 with only 50-80k miles and they look like a 800lb walrus was driving them.

 

[TSO]

I've got the black leather seats (with center console) in my 2014 and they are holding up really well @ 100k miles.

I have a question for you guys with 2017+ trucks... Is the ride/comfort improved at all over the earlier trucks (like my 2014)?

I may be considering an upgrade in the next year or 2 once the new 7.3L Gasser has some time out in the wild. I don't want a diesel so the Gasser option from Ford or GM will suffice. I may be compelled to switch over to the GM (with the 6.6L Gasser) simply due to ride comfort. The truck is a family hauler for day-to-day and camping. Getting sick of the unloaded ride of my current F250.... I've heard that the front suspension may be a little easier on the kidneys in the newer Fords but don't have any proof on that.

 

[grsthegreat]

not complaining on anyone's right to buy anything they want...but seriously 80 grand for a truck.

Not in my lifetime. I spent 36 grand for a new tundra....that was enough. My 2004 F350 was purchased used in 2010 with less than 50k miles for $16,000 cash It had a sticker in the glove box for 58 grand when new. Who wants to take that kind of loss. I now have 110,000 miles on it with only 1 new injector. no other issues.

I do like looking at new trucks, but the prices knock me out. 5 years ago i purchased a rental house for $130,000 and sold it this year for 225,000. In the same 5 years a new truck would more than halved it value. I wonder how many years they finance trucks for these days.

I bet ya a Porsche is cheaper priced than a truck nowdays :cool2:

 

[MechE1]

Comfort is like anything else. Up to the user. I will say I've been in a lot of vehicles in my day. Traveled fairly far for a non-pro driver. Just did a trip around lake Michigan, about 2k miles in 4 days. Best vehicle I ever road tripped in. Flawless. I'm not going to say most all around comfortable. You'll never get that on truck w/o independent suspension. Aside from that, very very nice. Space. User features. Sync 3. Got a Retrax for the bed so no worry with security with the auto lock tail gate. With that said, you really don't feel like you are riding in a big truck until you hit some washboard or something that get the suspension really moving. Adaptive cruise is super nice. I did not get adaptive steering. I have an explorer with that. It works, but no need for that for me. Auto wipers are a must. 360 view is super nice on a vehicle that big. You just don't appreciate all that until you use it. Is it needed? No. But it sure is **** nice to have for my everyday driver.

Zero comparison with my 1996. Just not even close. But a couple decades in between so I would expect that..... can't speak to the comfort between newer (past decade) models. Summary. No complaints.

One thing I do not understand tho. With all the what? 6/7 cameras on it. Why no option to record? Seems like that would be a no-brainer 3rd party option to add a SSD.

 

[Snobdds]

not complaining on anyone's right to buy anything they want...but seriously 80 grand for a truck.

Not in my lifetime. I spent 36 grand for a new tundra....that was enough. My 2004 F350 was purchased used in 2010 with less than 50k miles for $16,000 cash It had a sticker in the glove box for 58 grand when new. Who wants to take that kind of loss. I now have 110,000 miles on it with only 1 new injector. no other issues.

I do like looking at new trucks, but the prices knock me out. 5 years ago i purchased a rental house for $130,000 and sold it this year for 225,000. In the same 5 years a new truck would more than halved it value. I wonder how many years they finance trucks for these days.

I bet ya a Porsche is cheaper priced than a truck nowdays :cool2:

You have to play the game, same as finance companies that lease trucks do. The key is to get a tuck brand new and pay it off around 2-3 years. Then you trade it in on year 3 when your equity is still around 65-75%. Then you apply the equity to another truck and do the same. Eventually your only having to pay around $10-12K every three years for a new truck. It's like doing your own self leasing service. The math works, otherwise lease companies would not do it.

The key is to keep that equity working for you, don't ever loose it. It does no good to keep a truck for 15 years and have to rebuild equity all over again.

 

[sld]

You have to play the game, same as finance companies that lease trucks do. The key is to get a tuck brand new and pay it off around 2-3 years. Then you trade it in on year 3 when your equity is still around 65-75%. Then you apply the equity to another truck and do the same. Eventually your only having to pay around $10-12K every three years for a new truck. It's like doing your own self leasing service. The math works, otherwise lease companies would not do it.

The key is to keep that equity working for you, don't ever loose it. It does no good to keep a truck for 15 years and have to rebuild equity all over again.

I am not sure I agree with that completely. I was out the door for 35k for my 2007. I paid it off in 5 years and have driven for almost another 8 years. So that is 8 years without payments and the repairs have been very minimal.

I could easily sell it for 15k so that means after 13 years of ownership I lost 20k in value. Truck only has 81k miles so maybe if you don't use the heck out of it the numbers are different.

Now I want to get a new one in the next couple of years. So I am looking at the same 15k of equity for a roughly 50-55k truck out the door. Difference will be substantial so I will add cash down to keep the loan around 30k if rates are still good. Either way it will be painful to upgrade my truck but those 8-10 years without a payment were nice.

 

[ovrszd]

I am not sure I agree with that completely. I was out the door for 35k for my 2007. I paid it off in 5 years and have driven for almost another 8 years. So that is 8 years without payments and the repairs have been very minimal.

I could easily sell it for 15k so that means after 13 years of ownership I lost 20k in value. Truck only has 81k miles so maybe if you don't use the heck out of it the numbers are different.

Now I want to get a new one in the next couple of years. So I am looking at the same 15k of equity for a roughly 50-55k truck out the door. Difference will be substantial so I will add cash down to keep the loan around 30k if rates are still good. Either way it will be painful to upgrade my truck but those 8-10 years without a payment were nice.

Oh man, I thought you were going somewhere but you stopped short. Complete the math on your scenario so we can see mathematically how it pays out. Thanks.

 

[Tomtint]

I've got the black leather seats (with center console) in my 2014 and they are holding up really well @ 100k miles.

I have a question for you guys with 2017+ trucks... Is the ride/comfort improved at all over the earlier trucks (like my 2014)?

I may be considering an upgrade in the next year or 2 once the new 7.3L Gasser has some time out in the wild. I don't want a diesel so the Gasser option from Ford or GM will suffice. I may be compelled to switch over to the GM (with the 6.6L Gasser) simply due to ride comfort. The truck is a family hauler for day-to-day and camping. Getting sick of the unloaded ride of my current F250.... I've heard that the front suspension may be a little easier on the kidneys in the newer Fords but don't have any proof on that.

I had a 16 Platinum F350 4x4 gas truck.. It was metallic white with baseball glove colored interior... I really liked that truck and the seats were IMO more comfortable than my 17 Platinum seats... Benefit to the new truck seats is the massage feature..it's nice. The power difference between my 16 gas and the 17 diesel....is insane ... Diesel is a beast. Overall the fit / finish and ide quality of the new truck is miles ahead of the old style. Quieter, less bump steer, and waaaaaay more gizmos.