L6060HSTCC

[Hilbilly]

Lick yer wounds and keep what ya got. I wouldn't give them another penny.

But, if ya do, make sure yer getting a 2019 model!!!

:laughing:

I can't figure out how to Multi Quote so I am responding separately.

Sometimes my principles get in the way of progress. I just hate being taken advantage of.

Still not sure where this will end up.

 

[TripleR]

I gave up posting here a few years ago. Now I remember why. Not to worry. I wont post anything that will be construed as advertising again lol.

Sorry I drug you into this Paul; won't do that again.

 

[4shorts]

Sorry I drug you into this Paul; won't do that again.

Lol. Its not your fault. It just showed me how everything remained the same while I was gone these last few years. Keep well my friend. I will try and stop back in a few more years to test the waters again

 

[Hilbilly]

Wow! Some people sure get offended easily. Please do not be offended that is not my intention. I have been to your website and checked out some of your videos. You do quality work and have some great ideas to remedy some issues with these tractors. Keep up the great work!!!! I seen the thread heading sideways and only wanted to bring the focus back. Hang around and maybe you will find some other issues that you could address.

Now back to the regular programming.

Lick yer wounds and keep what ya got. I wouldn't give them another penny.

But, if ya do, make sure yer getting a 2019 model!!!

:laughing:

Is there a difference between the 2018 and the 2019?

 

[Fallon]

Do you use your plow for mostly pushing snow or for side casting. It's the side casting I'm concerned about, as I have a lot. My driveway is a mile long and I run up and down with the blade angled all the way, to cast the snow off the sides and that is hard on the loader.

I made a float for my plow and it made a huge difference for me but my driveway is rough gravel with lots of ups and downs.

85% of the time I'm plowing is with the blade fully angled mostly longer rural driveways. When windowing the loader, plow & SSQA are stronger than my traction. Even with the chains. I'll get bumped sideways on big offcenter piles of snow. No loader issues yet.

I dont abuse my equipment, but will push it reasonably hard. The L6060 can take the big loader, my L4060 can only take the medium loader. So you'd end up with a stronger loader than I have as well (don't let the dealer talk you into anything but the big loader). A L6060 wont have much more traction either. Slightly bigger tires & 300ish lbs more weight isnt much.

 

[Hilbilly]

85% of the time I'm plowing is with the blade fully angled mostly longer rural driveways. When windowing the loader, plow & SSQA are stronger than my traction. Even with the chains. I'll get bumped sideways on big offcenter piles of snow. No loader issues yet.

I dont abuse my equipment, but will push it reasonably hard. The L6060 can take the big loader, my L4060 can only take the medium loader. So you'd end up with a stronger loader than I have as well (don't let the dealer talk you into anything but the big loader). A L6060 wont have much more traction either. Slightly bigger tires & 300ish lbs more weight isnt much.

Thanks for the reply. I too use the plow mostly angled and it's good know the Loader will take it. I haven't had any issues with the Loader on the old MF1547 or the new 1749 but before I put the float on, it would sometimes dig in I could see / feel the Loader torquing. Much better now.

I use chains on the front tires and found the cab added enough weight to make some difference but more weight would be nice when plowing.

 

[Buppies]

Mr Short I followed you a long time ago very impressive your innovative designs and ideas glad I got lucky and found you on this thread this time I marked it as a favorite. Hopefully I haven’t derailed this thread

 

[Fallon]

By the way I talked to the dealer today and they assure me they are not trying to recover the $2,500 from the previous deal but their company policy is that they must make money on every transaction. Maybe just feeding me a line but I think they are being honest with me.

In all fairness, they won't be in business long if they loose money or just break even on every deal. It takes time, energy & money to stay in business. Got to pay for all the inventory on the lot, the foor over their heads & the people to run the company.

 

[Hilbilly]

Next week I will bring the L6060HSTCC home for a demo. That should tell me if it has significantly more power than the MF1749 and a few hours of seat time should identify any features I don't like or any I want to add. The demo has a radio, air ride seat and LED lights. None of which I really want. Still a little unsure about the air ride seat though. Don't really think there is a big improvement over the stock seat. The only extra I will likely go with is the third function.

Anybody that has the air ride seat think it's worth the extra money ($1,000CAD) or not. I actually like the seat in the Massey more than the 2 Kubota seats.

 

[Fallon]

Next week I will bring the L6060HSTCC home for a demo. That should tell me if it has significantly more power than the MF1749 and a few hours of seat time should identify any features I don't like or any I want to add. The demo has a radio, air ride seat and LED lights. None of which I really want. Still a little unsure about the air ride seat though. Don't really think there is a big improvement over the stock seat. The only extra I will likely go with is the third function.

Anybody that has the air ride seat think it's worth the extra money ($1,000CAD) or not. I actually like the seat in the Massey more than the 2 Kubota seats.

I like mine. I sprung for it as I have a bad back. I figure an expensive seat is cheaper than more physical therapy or Dr. bills if it helps.

The 3rd function is pretty cut & dry. Either you have or will get impliments that need it or not. I run a SSQA plow & PHD on mine. Flow is a bit low for the hydraulic PHD, but downpressure, reverse & not blowing out my back hooking up a 3pt PHD is worth the lesser power. The 3rd function lines are really exposed & need protection. Either pick up one from 4shorts Specialty Repairs Custom Mods - 3rd Function Guard Bota 6, make your own or expect a good chance of needing to repair hoses.

Kubota Grand rear remotes suck. Make sure they do a leakdown test with something heavy pushing on a cylinder before you take delivery if you get one. Been through a few valves to get decent ones & still have 1 to go.

 

[Hilbilly]

I like mine. I sprung for it as I have a bad back. I figure an expensive seat is cheaper than more physical therapy or Dr. bills if it helps.

The 3rd function is pretty cut & dry. Either you have or will get impliments that need it or not. I run a SSQA plow & PHD on mine. Flow is a bit low for the hydraulic PHD, but downpressure, reverse & not blowing out my back hooking up a 3pt PHD is worth the lesser power. The 3rd function lines are really exposed & need protection. Either pick up one from 4shorts Specialty Repairs Custom Mods - 3rd Function Guard Bota 66, make your own or expect a good chance of needing to repair hoses.

Kubota Grand rear remotes suck. Make sure they do a leakdown test with something heavy pushing on a cylinder before you take delivery if you get one. Been through a few valves to get decent ones & still have 1 to go.

Thanks for the heads up about the rear remotes. I've seen quite a few posts about those being faulty. I asked the salesman and one of the Kubota mechanics about those valves and they both said they are not aware of any problems. Hope they are not feeding me a line. I prefer honesty.

When I go to pick up the demo tractor I will check out the 2 seats a little more to see if the air is something I might benefit from.

The third function is something I will get. I have a front plow, front mount snow blower and a grapple that all need a third function. I built my own for my previous tractor and it worked well. But I think I will have it done at the factory this time. I've seen the guard 4shorts makes for the hoses and it looks first class. I will likely make my own. I've made my own grapple, rear hydraulic power pack and converted my rear mount snow blower to front mount. So making a guard will be simple and I enjoy making things.

 

[DeereRack]

I have an L6060HST Cab, I came from a MF 1749 cab. There is no lack of power with the Kubota, night and day over the MF I had (I know it has 12 more hp but it feels like 30 more hp) the tool box isn’t much of and issue with me, the one that comes on the MF is very small and the lid doesn’t come up far enough to put anything big in there anyways.

The seat is more comfortable on the MF and in my opinion the only thing that beats the Kubota.

My L6060 impressed me more and more every time I get in it.

 

[hseII]

Lol. Its not your fault. It just showed me how everything remained the same while I was gone these last few years. Keep well my friend. I will try and stop back in a few more years to test the waters again

Skid Plates for M7060s please sir.

 

[Fallon]

Skid Plates for M7060s please sir.

His site is Specialty Repairs Custom Mods & YouTube channel is Paul & Kathy Short
- YouTube. Havent seen any M mods from him yet, but he might be getting one loaned to him to mod up at some point. His local dealer has loaned him Bs & Ls to develop mods for.

 

[Hilbilly]

I have an L6060HST Cab, I came from a MF 1749 cab. There is no lack of power with the Kubota, night and day over the MF I had (I know it has 12 more hp but it feels like 30 more hp) the tool box isn’t much of and issue with me, the one that comes on the MF is very small and the lid doesn’t come up far enough to put anything big in there anyways.

The seat is more comfortable on the MF and in my opinion the only thing that beats the Kubota.

My L6060 impressed me more and more every time I get in it.

Do you have the stock seat or the air ride?

I've been on the L6060 Demo loaner for about 2 hours so far today and there are things that I really like and some I do not.

The demo one I have, has the air ride seat and I would say it is comparable to the Massey seat but I still prefer the Massey. I prefer the simple Massey instrument panel over the Kubota intellipanel. I don't like the Kubota Cat 2 3 PTH because all of my implements are Cat 1 and that means I have to use adapter sleeves that tend to fall out when switching implements. I know I will loose some of those. The 3PTH top link seems to be the wrong one. It is very short and I have to have it turned almost all the way out in order to use it on my implements. The top link also hits the PTO shaft safety cover if the lower mounting holes are used and the 3PTH is lowered.

Now the things I like. The power increase is very noticeable. I can run up my driveway in high range and high speed for most of it. The parts that are a little steeper I shift to High range - low. I can travel up the driveway about 50% to 60% faster than on the Massey. In all fairness though the Massey is only a 49HP vs the Kubota 62HP, so there should be a noticeable difference. I really like the split gears in each of the ranges. Makes it much easier to get the optimum gear. The LA1055 loader has much nicer hydraulics. I can curl and lift the bucket easily and with the Massey it is almost impossible to get both functions to work at the same time. However the Massey DL130 loader on my tractor has more lift capacity. The light duty bucket that came with this LA1055 loader is definitely LIGHT duty. After digging into a pile of wet sand and lifting it a few times I could see that the bottom of the bucket edge had a slight bow in it. If I decide to get an L6060 I will definitely NOT get the light duty bucket.

One last thing. I HATE the treadle pedal. It might just take some time to get used to it but I can drive up and down my rough driveway with the Massey and maintain a constant speed. With the Kubota every little bump seems to cause a speed change. I've tried different foot positions but so far I have not found the right position.

 

[DeereRack]

Do you have the stock seat or the air ride?

I've been on the L6060 Demo loaner for about 2 hours so far today and there are things that I really like and some I do not.

The demo one I have, has the air ride seat and I would say it is comparable to the Massey seat but I still prefer the Massey. I prefer the simple Massey instrument panel over the Kubota intellipanel. I don't like the Kubota Cat 2 3 PTH because all of my implements are Cat 1 and that means I have to use adapter sleeves that tend to fall out when switching implements. I know I will loose some of those. The 3PTH top link seems to be the wrong one. It is very short and I have to have it turned almost all the way out in order to use it on my implements. The top link also hits the PTO shaft safety cover if the lower mounting holes are used and the 3PTH is lowered.

Now the things I like. The power increase is very noticeable. I can run up my driveway in high range and high speed for most of it. The parts that are a little steeper I shift to High range - low. I can travel up the driveway about 50% to 60% faster than on the Massey. In all fairness though the Massey is only a 49HP vs the Kubota 62HP, so there should be a noticeable difference. I really like the split gears in each of the ranges. Makes it much easier to get the optimum gear. The LA1055 loader has much nicer hydraulics. I can curl and lift the bucket easily and with the Massey it is almost impossible to get both functions to work at the same time. However the Massey DL130 loader on my tractor has more lift capacity. The light duty bucket that came with this LA1055 loader is definitely LIGHT duty. After digging into a pile of wet sand and lifting it a few times I could see that the bottom of the bucket edge had a slight bow in it. If I decide to get an L6060 I will definitely NOT get the light duty bucket.

One last thing. I HATE the treadle pedal. It might just take some time to get used to it but I can drive up and down my rough driveway with the Massey and maintain a constant speed. With the Kubota every little bump seems to cause a speed change. I've tried different foot positions but so far I have not found the right position.

I have the standard seat in my Kubota.

The Kubota loader (and 3 point) hydraulics are definitely smoother than the Massey’s.

Lift capacity I would say is equal. However the Kubota is a bit lighter in the rear than the Massey so ballast accordingly.

The pedal. Well when I test drove the Kubota in the dealers lot (15 minutes tops) I liked it. Made the deal, took delivery of it and for some reason I didn’t like it as much. I think the test drive I wasn’t running it real hard?? But now I have been using it and have it down good and love it. I don’t put my whole foot on it and rock it like it’s designed to do. Too hard to go max speed like that. For forward I your my foot all the way to the right, and to go back I move my foot so my toes do the pushing on the back of the pedal. I don’t know if that makes sense but I don’t hafta think about it while running it.

The bucket in my opinion was waay too big for the Massey. Fill that thing up with dirt and the tires where about to explode. No way I’d want to turn the front tires with a heaping bucket full or travel farther than 50 yards in a straight line. The bucket I got with my Kubota doesn’t seem light duty to me and isn’t as big (I think it’s sized right) as the one I got with my Massey.

 

[vvanders]

We've got a L4760 with LA1055 and HD bucket. I've probably moved 15-20 tons of dirt with it and can confirm that it holds up to the abuse.

As far as the treadle pedal I usually use the right side as a traditional pedal and then use the back as reverse. Rest your heel on the floorboard either way and works comfortably for me.

 

[Hilbilly]

I have the standard seat in my Kubota.

The Kubota loader (and 3 point) hydraulics are definitely smoother than the Massey痴.

Lift capacity I would say is equal. However the Kubota is a bit lighter in the rear than the Massey so ballast accordingly.

The pedal. Well when I test drove the Kubota in the dealers lot (15 minutes tops) I liked it. Made the deal, took delivery of it and for some reason I didn稚 like it as much. I think the test drive I wasn稚 running it real hard?? But now I have been using it and have it down good and love it. I don稚 put my whole foot on it and rock it like it痴 designed to do. Too hard to go max speed like that. For forward I your my foot all the way to the right, and to go back I move my foot so my toes do the pushing on the back of the pedal. I don稚 know if that makes sense but I don稚 hafta think about it while running it.

The bucket in my opinion was waay too big for the Massey. Fill that thing up with dirt and the tires where about to explode. No way I壇 want to turn the front tires with a heaping bucket full or travel farther than 50 yards in a straight line. The bucket I got with my Kubota doesn稚 seem light duty to me and isn稚 as big (I think it痴 sized right) as the one I got with my Massey.

The bucket on this tractor has a tag on the back that states it's light duty.

I discovered the problem with this demo tractor being rough riding and making it hard to operated the throttle. The rear tires are not loaded and even with the bucket empty the back end is too light and bounces around. I put a homemade weight on the 3PTH that weighs about 900lbs and then the tractor rode much better.

I do the same thing with the treadle, ie use my toes to operate the forward and reverse functions. Rocking back and forth is just too uncomfortable. I think this will just take some getting used to.

Right now I'm leaning toward getting the L6060 but I need to think about it some more and talk to the dealer about a few issues and pricing before I make my final decision.

We've got a L4760 with LA1055 and HD bucket. I've probably moved 15-20 tons of dirt with it and can confirm that it holds up to the abuse.

As far as the treadle pedal I usually use the right side as a traditional pedal and then use the back as reverse. Rest your heel on the floorboard either way and works comfortably for me.

If I go for this tractor I will definitely get the HD bucket.

 

[vvanders]

Yeah, the LA1055 + HD bucket is a good combo. When I was moving the dirt pile left over from excavating our house and got a bit aggressive, managed to lift the rear even with filled tires(~800lbs) and ~700lb flail mower on the back.

Can speak highly enough of the Grand L, between HST+ and the weight over the standard L they're great machines.