Is this a new tractor?

[eubie5]

So, say you walked in today and bought a tractor. You tell the salesman you want a new xxxx model, front end loader, mid mount mower, however you want it set up. You go back and forth on numbers and eventually come to terms. You write him a check, sign the loan documents, however you pay for it. He says, we'll deliver it in 5 days.
Guy brings it out, unloads it, and looking at the numbers on the tractor and the paperwork, the tractor is a 2018 model.
It only has .8 hours, it's never been bought before, but it's last years model. It's new, i guess, but seems like a ****** thing to do. I think the dealer should have told the guy it would be a 2018 model, even though the 2018 and 2019 didn't change. This happened to a friend of a friend, i don't know him. My buddy told me about it. He was upset, but i guess didn't raise much ****, because he kept tractor.

Or, is this no big deal?

 

[metalbender]

Did the price reflect the model year?

 

[eubie5]

Not really. It was a pretty good deal, nothing great

 

[eubie5]

I guess it's not a big deal. Just thought the dealer should have said, at some point, this is a 2018 we're talking about. Like i said, there were no changes or updates that i know of

 

[Code54]

On tractors the year does not mean much. It has no Hrs on it so I would call it new. It really does not mean much when it comes to the value of the machine so just enjoy the new purchase.

 

[ultrarunner]

Kind of like the VW Dealer that sold a brand new VW Convertible Bug that sat in the showroom for 30 years... less than 10 miles on it.

It was sold with full warranty as it had been in inventory for 30 years!

Instead of a discount it sold for 3 times sticker...

 

[MossRoad]

So, say you walked in today and bought a tractor. You tell the salesman you want a new xxxx model, front end loader, mid mount mower, however you want it set up. You go back and forth on numbers and eventually come to terms. You write him a check, sign the loan documents, however you pay for it. He says, we'll deliver it in 5 days.
Guy brings it out, unloads it, and looking at the numbers on the tractor and the paperwork, the tractor is a 2018 model.
It only has .8 hours, it's never been bought before, but it's last years model. It's new, i guess, but seems like a ****** thing to do. I think the dealer should have told the guy it would be a 2018 model, even though the 2018 and 2019 didn't change. This happened to a friend of a friend, i don't know him. My buddy told me about it. He was upset, but i guess didn't raise much ****, because he kept tractor.

Or, is this no big deal?

Yeah, the dealer should have made it clear that it's a 2018 model. However, nothing changed in the model year, it's only April of 2019, the warranty didn't start until it was delivered, etc... for all intents and purposes, it is a new tractor. If he got a good deal on it, and he's happy, he should just continue being happy.

 

[Ortimber]

I just bought a new tractor. It’s a 2019 but the loader was made in mid 2018. Unless there were changes, I’m fine with having a new loader that’s been sitting at the dealer for almost a year. If the tractor was a year old and sitting out in the weather the whole time, I might insist on having a newer one delivered.

 

[eubie5]

Yeah, the dealer should have made it clear that it's a 2018 model. However, nothing changed in the model year, it's only April of 2019, the warranty didn't start until it was delivered, etc... for all intents and purposes, it is a new tractor. If he got a good deal on it, and he's happy, he should just continue being happy.

Yep, pretty much my thoughts on it.

 

[jeff9366]

This happened to a friend of a friend, i don't know him. My buddy told me about it. He was upset, but i guess didn't raise much ****, because he kept tractor.

I challenge your hearsay assertions.

Tractors do not have model "years". Compact tractors are assembled from components and parts manufactured in multiple countries. Most tractors contain components from at least four countries. In Asia, Japan, China, Thailand and India are large tractor component suppliers. It would be an infrequent, random event if all the tractor parts in a compact were produced in a single year, especially in the first half of a year.

Assembly line production requires considerable quantities of a given component to be assembled and inventoried until shipped to (multiple) customers on demand. Tractor producers monitor specs for parts, not what month parts are produced.

Kubota, for instance, exports Loaders and Backhoes for all its compact tractors worldwide from Georgia, USA.

My Kubota L3560 has an engine and transmission from Japan, Loader from Georgia and wheels from China. I suspect numerous engine and transmission components are imported from outside Japan before being assembled in Japan. Kubota has large manufacturing plants in Thailand.

 

[eubie5]

^^ i had to look up calumny. Learn a new word today.
Don't know why he would make it up. When i bought my tractor, my dealer said it's a 2019 bx. Won't be here till next week.

 

[jeff9366]

I have purchased two new Kubotas.

I have the dealer orders. I have the loan documents. Never does a tractor "year" appear.

There are hundreds of posts in the archive questioning compact tractor model years.
I have not read one post where the contributor could furnish a model year from tractor documents before them.

 

[TheMadOne]

^^ i had to look up calumny. Learn a new word today.
Don't know why he would make it up. When i bought my tractor, my dealer said it's a 2019 bx. Won't be here till next week.

As long as it's the same model I wouldn't have any real heartburn. Warranty is turned on the day it's delivered to the final customer. There's no yearly refresh cycle for tractors the way there is for automobiles. A B2650 is a B2650, period. My L3301 was a 2015 I bought in 2016. Didn't even know that until I looked at the listing for it after I traded it in.

Hours matter, model matters, condition matters. Year doesn't matter much on a machine that, with proper care, will still be around in 50+ years.

 

[Wagtail]

It's just as jeff9366 stated, "Tractors do not have model 'years'."

The 'friend of a friend' is confusing automotive products AND their 'model year' advertising/emphasis with tractors.

Yes, at times, a minor tweak is made to a tractor model (ie: there are no longer any grease nipples on my 4105's front axle, even though the Manual indicates there are) but you are buying the model of tractor, with the associated hours, not the year of manufacture or assembly.

 

[Thomas]

Did your friend read paper work he sign and did it state 2019?
Did he show saleman...touch the tractor even write down serial number to match paper work numbers for the paper work....those little things count.

 

[eubie5]

Did your friend read paper work he sign and did it state 2019?
Did he show saleman...touch the tractor even write down serial number to match paper work numbers for the paper work....those little things count.

He's not my friend. I've never met the man. When i take delivery of mine, fingers crossed it'll be this Wednesday, I'll look at my paperwork to see if a year is listed. Several people say it's not, I'm sure they're right. Last one i bought was back in 2002, that paperwork is long gone.

 

[JLH4]

I bought a RK 24 last July, 7/18, and that is the only date listed. It's on the loan app and warranty page. I've got about 60 hours on it, works fine and does what I need it to do so I don't care when it was "assembled". Enjoy your new toys 'er tractors and hopefully they will be trouble free. :thumbsup:

 

[john reeder]

If it gave him that much heartburn he shouldn't have accepted it.

 

[Slowpoke Slim]

I don't think it really matters much at all.

However, that being said, my invoice from my selling dealer, and my loan paperwork from my ag lender both have the model year of my tractor listed on them.

Maybe my situation is different, as there was no way for me to get a previous year tractor. My tractor model was a new series release for 2017. Purchased new in April of 2017. I'm sure there could be parts on my tractor that were actually manufactured in late 2016 to make the build date that the unit was assembled and shipped to the US, and then final assembled and shipped to my dealer.

Like I said, I really don't think it matters, but my documents have the model year on them.

 

[s219]

I challenge your hearsay assertions.

Tractors do not have model "years".

Jeff is 100% correct on this, tractors do not have model years but do have date of manufacture tags on the various components. If a buyer thinks/expects otherwise then he hasn't done his homework.

See the same complaint on a boating forum from time to time -- someone will buy a 2019 model year boat and notice that the engine manufacture tag says October 2018 and act like they got duped. Outboard motors don't have model years either. Boats do have model years (matters because they get hull ID numbers and vessel titles) but boat makers model years don't coincide with the calendar year. This particular brand started making 2019 boats in July 2018, so it wouldn't even be possible to rig the "2019" boat with a "2019 manufacture" motor for at least 5-6 months if not longer. Outboard manufacturers make motors on their own production schedule and then crate them for future use.