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#21  
Oh wow!
Well, that wont happen at my place! I got the tractor to lift things. I guess I could lift it a little using the bucket, but that probably wont do it...
I have an idea about a trench...
 
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Could probably just Jack it up by the frame or by using blocks under the loader bucket. It just needs to be high enough to get full articulation of the axle.
 
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I remember you were on a mound with the wheels cranked when it would rub. I think by raising the the axle off the ground you can simulate that.
 
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#24  
Thats exactly what I was thinking. That hill is not that big. If I dig out the base of it, I could probably raise it up on the mound with the tires over the deepened trench. I will play with that. Thanks for the advise!
 
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I found the angle adjustment info in my owners manual under "Adjusting Steering Angle". IMG_20180821_073601_hdr.jpg
 
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#26  
When in doubt, look up the owners manual!

I will preform these steps when I get home, well the best that I can without a crane! Thank you for the info!
 
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When in doubt, look up the owners manual!

I will preform these steps when I get home, well the best that I can without a crane! Thank you for the info!

You are welcome. Just do it safely. Also, this info was taken out of my owners manual for the XR3135.
 
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#28  
Yep, I will look it up in mine. I am sure it the same, but different.
 
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Just posted an update video. This time, I explore the steering angle using a hastily put together steering angle finder I learned from ChrisFix. That did not work. However, I did find the steering bolts and now I am left with more questions. I am wondering how far out and can move those bolts and, even then, would it still get bound up? I am probably going to move them out and test it, but, should I be contacting my dealer? How far out are your steering stop bolts? Could something else be going on?

My owners manual (just quickly glanced at it for another reason) has a section on adjusting the steering angle stop bolts
 
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When I test drove an LS4155 with ag tires, I could get the tires to rub the loader mount just by turning sharply on level ground...

I watched your vid, and I can tell you there is nothing wrong with YOUR tractor specifically. Unless dealers are setting the stops tighter, it's how all the 4-series tractors are... LS should have either moved the axle forward a couple inches or revised the loader mount for better clearance with the larger than normal tires they're using on the 4-series.

While you might be able to adjust out the stops out enough that there won't be any rubbing, doing so will also sacrifice your steer angle on the level. Additionally, using the stops to stop steering travel IMO is how you break off steering arms, since the ram will still be giving her all she's got trying to steer tighter if you're not smart enough to let off the wheel a little when you feel resistance.

If you adjust them, I would make sure that you set the stops on the front of the axle to contact at the same time, or JUST before the stops on the back of the axle. That way you limit steering with the pull side of the axle, not the push side... That is easier on the steering arms if you occasionally hold the wheel against the limit trying to turn sharper...

If it were mine, I'd leave the stops where they are and just not steer all the way to lock when driving in the rough. If you hear the tire going pop pop, straighten the wheel a little and it'll stop. That way when you're on the level, you can still turn sharper.

I would also take a grinder and round the edges where the tire hits the loader frame. You could probably gain a decent amount of clearance just by having a nice 1/4" radius on those square edges, and it certainly isn't going to sacrifice any strength... If you can't be bothered to just not steer so sharply, I might add some spacers to the articulation stops rather than limiting steering angle, or add them first, then limit angle as necessary. Being able to turn sharp at times is certainly nice...
 
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I know your tractor is the new 4100 series but I thought I would post of pick of my XR4046 with 4102 loader. I assume your tractor has the 4104 loader. It looks like the 4104 loader brackets are shaped differently than the 4102 brackets. This pic is with the tractor on a rise with the front axle fully raised against the frame and the steering fully turned. As you can see there is at least 3/4" clearance.


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I will also add my tractor has two stop bolts only on the left (drivers) side. The front bolt measures 2 5/16" from the face of the hub to end of bolt head. The rear bolt measures 1 15/16" from face of hub to end of bolt head. My tires have never rubbed. Not once in over 750 hours. I think when these tractors are built in the factory they have these skinny tires made for moving them around. I'm not so sure if they aren't shipped to the states with these on them. I'm not sure at what point they install the regular tires. It may be after they are delivered to LS USA in North Carolina. This could explain part of why they may not be catching the issue at the plant. Maybe someone else knows for sure.
 
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#35  
Thanks for you help Doofy!
 
/ New Tractor / New Videos! #37  
That front tire clearance is still to close for my comfort, very weird, if it was mine I'd see if it's possible to go down a tire size front and back, your rear tires look to close for Talon tire chains and at my place chains are mandatory in the winter. I suppose one benefit is it keeps mud from building up on the tire so you get better traction.
 

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