$!#& Chain Hooks

[WranglerX]

After getting off tractor at least 3 time per lift I go tired of hooks that won't stay hooked....

Small hole drilled, a little "bailing wire".... Sometimes its the simple things....



Dale

 

[Snobdds]

The safety police are going to loose their minds...

Good idea and I would do it...

 

[stuckmotor]

Did you have any trouble drilling through the hooks? I thought they were hardened.

 

[WranglerX]

Did you have any trouble drilling through the hooks? I thought they were hardened.

Cheap Chinese junk with good name attached.... Mild steel, drop forged at best .... Not hardened....

Dale

 

[WranglerX]

The safety police are going to loose their minds...

Good idea and I would do it...

If one is relying on outer tip of hook.... Keep off my property....

Wire only keeps hook in place till one can bring tension on chain/hook...

Dale

 

[CobyRupert]

I've never had a grab hook that wouldn't stay hooked? Usually the load, or just gravity, keeps it tight. A case of chain going slack and tight repeatedly?

My biggest problem is slide hooks, especially when you've climbed a tree, at the risk of life and limb, to put a cable around it so you can pull it over, then cable falls off as soon as you've climbed down and put some tension on it! Then you get to climb up again! Grrr!
One day I'll be smart enough to replace it with a hook that has a built in snap on it. I'm more likely to go the baling twine route too. I'd probably wouldn't drill it though.

 

[bcp]

Google

latching grab hook

Bruce

 

[stuckmotor]

Cheap Chinese junk with good name attached.... Mild steel, drop forged at best .... Not hardened....

Dale

I'll be. Someone somewhere wrote a piece about one of the benefits of weld on hooks being that they aren't hardened like common chain hooks - or - maybe I misremember.

 

[WranglerX]

Google

latching grab hook

Bruce

All my experiences with latching hooks have been the latch assembly gets bent up and become worthless and latch assembly has to be removed or constantly repaired... Your experiences may be different...

Dale

 

[WranglerX]

I've never had a grab hook that wouldn't stay hooked? Usually the load, or just gravity, keeps it tight. A case of chain going slack and tight repeatedly?

My biggest problem is slide hooks, especially when you've climbed a tree, at the risk of life and limb, to put a cable around it so you can pull it over, then cable falls off as soon as you've climbed down and put some tension on it! Then you get to climb up again! Grrr!
One day I'll be smart enough to replace it with a hook that has a built in snap on it. I'm more likely to go the baling twine route too. I'd probably wouldn't drill it though.

How about welding a little ring or loop on outside rim of hook and use wire... I had that though but then with my welding skills and bulk of loop I declined...

Dale

 

[ray66v]

Quick links work great.

 

[sdquick]

For situations like this (where it needs to stay together until there is tension) I always use a few wraps of electrical tape. It is about 50 cents a roll at harbor freight...

 

[bcp]

All my experiences with latching hooks have been the latch assembly gets bent up and become worthless and latch assembly has to be removed or constantly repaired... Your experiences may be different...

Dale

That's been my experience with bent sheet metal slip hook latches. Grab hook latches are much sturdier. Here's one style.



Grab hook latch

Bruce

 

[bcp]

Not that you would want to do it every few minutes, but that little reverse curve at the grab hook tip is to hold a safety wire, if needed.



Bruce

 

[Wagtail]

The safety police are going to loose their minds...

Good idea and I would do it...

The 'safety police' will not lose their minds... they will applaud it!

It's called Mousing (there is even specific mousing wire available). A standard practice on hooks and shackles to securing the load into the device.

Used it in the Navy, especially during jackstay, kingpost, helicopter and RAS transfers.

 

[WranglerX]

Quick links work great.
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But they never "FIT" the chains I have..... UsuallY can't get threaded portion through a link (eye) or if I use smaller QL the gap is to small to allow chain link (diameter) to go through gap....

Dale

 

[bcp]

The 'safety police' will not lose their minds... they will applaud it!

It's called Mousing (there is even specific mousing wire available). A standard practice on hooks and shackles to securing the load into the device.

Used it in the Navy, especially during jackstay, kingpost, helicopter and RAS transfers.

That's the word (mousing) I couldn't remember, in my post just above yours.

Bruce

 

[WranglerX]

Hmmm.... Found these examples of mousing....

A shackel....

A hook....

Is this hook legitimate for mousing or is it missing latch bar?

Dale

 

[stuckmotor]

This is a very informative thread.

 

[Threepoint]

After getting off tractor at least 3 time per lift I go tired of hooks that won't stay hooked....

Small hole drilled, a little "bailing wire".... Sometimes its the simple things....

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Dale

Dale, hard to tell just from a photo, but to me that looks like a 3/8" grab hook on a 5/16" chain. :scratchchin: Is that a possibility?